Kyle Singler draft profile

[Glide2keva]

hate blinds doesnt it?

singler will be a solid bench player...but i tend to agree with the consensus that the bulls shouldnt take him....but he does everything pretty good...just doesnt have a really overlying strength

And therein lies the problem.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

i was just making a true comment.."Hate blinds"

not that that statement applies 100% to this thread BUT

 

[Glide2keva]

Lu was a OAD player...He's the last I remember. We may have 2 in a row tho w/ Austin Rivers. Hope the CBA prevents it.

That's what I was referring to I knew Luol was and OAD, but I knew there weren't any after him. That's why I said in a while. Lu's been in the league for 7 years now.

Hopefully Rivers stays.

Kobe was going to be a Dookie had he not entered the draft. Then I'd REALLY hate him. lol.

 

[Glide2keva]

i was just making a true comment.."Hate blinds"

not that that statement applies 100% to this thread BUT

Oh I get it.

But, that's the years of ribbing and family joshing back and forth that comes out when talking about that. I get that "you do know your dad went there" stuff all the time.

It's like Cubs vs. Sox here. 8 miles between both teams in the same city, and 8 miles between both schools in the same state.

You should see my facebook page during Dook vs. UNC games. It's littered with back and forth comments.

And you're a fan of three teams I hate with a passion. lol, go figure.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Oh I get it.

But, that's the years of ribbing and family joshing back and forth that comes out when talking about that. I get that "you do know your dad went there" stuff all the time.

It's like Cubs vs. Sox here. 8 miles between both teams in the same city, and 8 miles between both schools in the same state.

You should see my facebook page during Dook vs. UNC games. It's littered with back and forth comments.

And you're a fan of three teams I hate with a passion. lol, go figure.

Duke,Cubs,and what Cowboys

lol im not a bandwagoner tho

Duke-family, grew up with dad having every game one, was a scholly athlete at Duke

LSU-other side of the family

Cowboys-local, also family favorite

Cubs-never really liked the rangers or astros, also family

Spurs-local

 

[FirstTimer]

hate blinds doesnt it?

singler will be a solid bench player...but i tend to agree with the consensus that the bulls shouldnt take him....but he does everything pretty good...just doesnt have a really overlying strength

Pretty sure you told me the same thing about Brian Zoubek.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Pretty sure you told me the same thing about Brian Zoubek.

lawl :tiptoe:#dukebiasthinkingzoubekcouldsurvivebecausehe'stall

but singler will atleast get drafted somewhere in the late 1st or 2nd round....

inside the arc he's a great player...but the problem is that his 3 point shot isnt great and he likes to drift beyond the arc...in college he was a great defender...but he is not a great athlete....

Last year he was going to be in the first round...but he had knee problems and had shooting issues...TOOK WAY TOO MANY 3s

 

[Glide2keva]

Duke,Cubs,and what Cowboys

lol im not a bandwagoner tho

Duke-family, grew up with dad having every game one, was a scholly athlete at Duke

LSU-other side of the family

Cowboys-local, also family favorite

Cubs-never really liked the rangers or astros, also family

Spurs-local

Well, someone has to like those teams, I guess. I hate the scrubs, Sox fan and former employee. Half my family likes the cubs, the half are die hard Sox fans.

Hate Duke because I'm a UNC fan. Father side is in NC and they are split down the middle. UNC vs. Duke is an annual event and it gets really heated, all in good fun though.

And the Cowboys? They are like the Yankess of the NFL, minus all the titles. Plus I love the bears and liked the 49ers since Joe Montana played there, so it's just natural to hate the boys.

 

[ZAN]

Call me crazy...but Kyle Singler is a perfect player for the Bulls situation.

Great off-ball scorer. Reads screens well. Shoots well on the wing. Capable of creating his own shot.

I think a guy like Kyle Singler, while his range isn't that of Korver, gives you the ability to trade a Kyle Korver, and sign a lesser known 3-point sniper in FA and/or draft one. Singler is essentially Korver with 2 inches, more strength, and EXCELLENT on ball and/help defense.

Coach Krzyzewski and Coach Thibodeau have very similar defensive mantras...and while many guys are screaming NO MORE DUKE...every Duke player we've had on this team (besides Boozer) has busted their tail to play defense for us. Imagine if we still had Duhon, how lockdown our second tier would be.

If we came away with Nolan Smith and Kyle Singler in this draft, I'd be very happy. There are no prolific scorer types to be had in this draft...and drafting two very basketball smart, very savvy offensive players, who absolutely BUST THEIR ASS on defense is a win in the draft for me. When you can't get what you want, you draft smart. You can't go wrong with Duke. Singler would be an excellent backup to Deng, IMHO.

Question....Kyle Singler is a late first projection, and theoretically SHOULD be there at 28, barring an offensive explosion during team workouts. But would you trade UP to grab Nolan Smith around 37-40? I think it's worthwhile and would gladly trade the next TWO years 2nd picks for him...as he'd significantly help our ball security, half court offense when Rose is off the floor, and ability to play pressure defense in the NBA. I know we have Watson...but I think Thibodeau would love to have this kid. And if we're worrying about 2012 and 2013 2nd round picks, we're failing our goal in winning a NBA title.

OR

do you take Singler in the first, and hope E'twaun Moore falls to 44 to get your backup 2/ 3rd string 1.

While the top of this draft is weak, that means draft stars are there to be won in the 2nd round. I REALLY REALLY LIKE the area of 25-45...There are some really solid names in there.

Shelvin Mack
Nolan Smith
E'Twaun Moore
JaJuan Johnson
David Lighty (I think this kid could be prolific if he decides to hit the weights. He has superstar frame)


hell I'd be content with Ben Hansbrough (I know, yuck) running our point if Rose gets hurt and we need someone to step up and fill Watson's role while Watson fills Rose's. The kid can score and has the motor that Thibs demands.

Tell you someone I DON'T WANT that might fall. Kenneth Faried. Having the next coming of Rodman is nice...if you already have Jordan and Pippen....Watch the Heat take his ass after us if he falls...good god.

 

[X]

Call me crazy...but Kyle Singler is a perfect player for the Bulls situation.

Great off-ball scorer. Reads screens well. Shoots well on the wing. Capable of creating his own shot.

I think a guy like Kyle Singler, while his range isn't that of Korver, gives you the ability to trade a Kyle Korver, and sign a lesser known 3-point sniper in FA and/or draft one. Singler is essentially Korver with 2 inches, more strength, and EXCELLENT on ball and/help defense.

Coach Krzyzewski and Coach Thibodeau have very similar defensive mantras...and while many guys are screaming NO MORE DUKE...every Duke player we've had on this team (besides Boozer) has busted their tail to play defense for us. Imagine if we still had Duhon, how lockdown our second tier would be.

If we came away with Nolan Smith and Kyle Singler in this draft, I'd be very happy. There are no prolific scorer types to be had in this draft...and drafting two very basketball smart, very savvy offensive players, who absolutely BUST THEIR ASS on defense is a win in the draft for me. When you can't get what you want, you draft smart. You can't go wrong with Duke. Singler would be an excellent backup to Deng, IMHO.

Question....Kyle Singler is a late first projection, and theoretically SHOULD be there at 28, barring an offensive explosion during team workouts. But would you trade UP to grab Nolan Smith around 37-40? I think it's worthwhile and would gladly trade the next TWO years 2nd picks for him...as he'd significantly help our ball security, half court offense when Rose is off the floor, and ability to play pressure defense in the NBA. I know we have Watson...but I think Thibodeau would love to have this kid. And if we're worrying about 2012 and 2013 2nd round picks, we're failing our goal in winning a NBA title.

OR

do you take Singler in the first, and hope E'twaun Moore falls to 44 to get your backup 2/ 3rd string 1.

While the top of this draft is weak, that means draft stars are there to be won in the 2nd round. I REALLY REALLY LIKE the area of 25-45...There are some really solid names in there.

Shelvin Mack
Nolan Smith
E'Twaun Moore
JaJuan Johnson
David Lighty (I think this kid could be prolific if he decides to hit the weights. He has superstar frame)


hell I'd be content with Ben Hansbrough (I know, yuck) running our point if Rose gets hurt and we need someone to step up and fill Watson's role while Watson fills Rose's. The kid can score and has the motor that Thibs demands.

Tell you someone I DON'T WANT that might fall. Kenneth Faried. Having the next coming of Rodman is nice...if you already have Jordan and Pippen....Watch the Heat take his ass after us if he falls...good god.

First off, I've been saying for months that if we come away w/ Smith and Lighty in this draft, it will be a really, really good draft, especially considering where we're picking.

And about Faried. I've seen the dude. He's big, but not big like "whoa". he actually benefited greatly from playing @ Morehead St. (more head, tee-hee) bc even at 6'8 he was the biggest player on the court. He's going to run into similar issues that we've pointed out w/ Singler. His height and his skill set don't match. He'll be useless as a 3, and most 4's will be taller than him. His motor will probably keep him in the association, but I won't be surprised if he's a D-Leaguer for most of his career. I just hope a team like the Knicks pick up him and Fredette and think they struck gold. lulz.

 

[ZAN]

The honest to god truth is that Miami will be a juggernaut if they land Faried. He's their Rodman...He loves to run, that's his offensive style. Good passer. Excellent shot blocker and glass cleaner. Gets the ball out of the break SO FAST after he grabs the board. He's a high flyer and adds another break option to LeBron and Wade streaking down the floor. He doesn't work in a half-court system, so you're right...teams like the Knicks are where he goes to die...because as fast as D'Antoni likes to play, Melo and Amare aren't the STREAKING ON THE BREAK players that LeBron and Wade are.

Faried is very scary if he has the Heat logo on his chest. God that scares me. Hell, Miami could just get rid of the C, and go with Chalmers/Bibby, Wade, LeBron, Bosh, and Faried. Call it a small lineup, but they've proven that they can rebound with the best of them with a small lineup (even after Game 1 vs. Chicago)...Adding Faried really scares the piss out of me....That's like adding Kevin Love without the shooting but increasing his athleticism ten-fold...The man loves to clean the glass, turn and fire a bullet to the outlet man, then trail up the floor for a lob dunk...and that fits what Miami does soooo well...

He lands ANYWHERE but Miami, his career dies. He lands in Miami, he becomes the final piece to the dynasty....You WILL not score on Miami if Faried, LeBron, and Wade are on the floor....

 

[bobferg]

He'll go to Indiana. Bird loves his white guys that overachieved in college.

Hansbrough?

Dunleavy wasn't a bird pick, Foster wasn't a bird pick. McRoberts wasn't a Bird pick.

 

[ZAN]

Hansbrough?

Dunleavy wasn't a bird pick, Foster wasn't a bird pick. McRoberts wasn't a Bird pick.

No, they weren't. But...

Jerryd Bayless was (why'd he let him go...poor GMing)
Alexander Johnson (fail)
Ezran Lorback (who?! fail)
James Jones (fail...so, he can hit a 3-ball with no one guarding him...whoopee)
Shawne Williams (fail)
Nathan Jawal (fail)
David Harrison (who?! fail)

all were...

He's had (arguably) 3 hits. But only seeing the benefits of two. With a LOT of fail in the middle.

Danny Granger (blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while)
Jerryd Bayless (and he let him get away = fail)
Paul George (unless they mismanage his development, he should hit)

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

i doubt faried falls to miami unless they do a trade

 

[ZAN]

You think there is legitimate interest by the Knicks? They play no defense.

I don't see Portland taking him. They have LaMarcus, and are praying the Oden comes back and gives them one healthy year...and their bench is already filled with long athletic players.

Denver could possibly take him, but they already have Chris Anderson...

Houston? IDK if that's a fit.

OKC? Possibly. I actually like him with that group...He's the type that's not a lane clogger, which opens up Russell Westbrook's game. Gives the Thunder a reason to not overpay Ibaka, too...considering Russell Westbrook is making serious cash now, and you got a lot in Durant's stock, too. Ibaka is going to want top 5 PF money here in a year...If they take the club option...they run the risk of him accepting the nearly 4 million player option for 2013....That will put them hard against the cap and make the chances of keeping Harden slim to none. I like Faried to go to OKC, goodbye Ibaka...hello Harden contact....

If not, do the Bulls consider drafting Faried and packaging Taj, picks, and Noah to get a D-Howard (joking, don't wanna turn this into another thread)? But if the Bulls are looking to sell high on Taj, now is the time, and Faried would be a very interesting bench PF who would be a total freak in a Thibodeau defense...to say the least. I don't see this happening.

But I definitely see Faried wearing OKC jersey (where he won't flourish) or a Heat jersey (where he fits in so well that it's scary)....

Anyways, back to topic. I like Singler. Good fit. Allows you to free up 5 million by getting rid of Korver to a team who needs a spot shooter.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

You think there is legitimate interest by the Knicks? They play no defense.

I don't see Portland taking him. They have LaMarcus, and are praying the Oden comes back and gives them one healthy year...and their bench is already filled with long athletic players.

Denver could possibly take him, but they already have Chris Anderson...

Houston? IDK if that's a fit.

OKC? Possibly. I actually like him with that group...He's the type that's not a lane clogger, which opens up Russell Westbrook's game. Gives the Thunder a reason to not overpay Ibaka, too...considering Russell Westbrook is making serious cash now, and you got a lot in Durant's stock, too. Ibaka is going to want top 5 PF money here in a year...If they take the club option...they run the risk of him accepting the nearly 4 million player option for 2013....That will put them hard against the cap and make the chances of keeping Harden slim to none. I like Faried to go to OKC, goodbye Ibaka...hello Harden contact....

If not, do the Bulls consider drafting Faried and packaging Taj, picks, and Noah to get a D-Howard (joking, don't wanna turn this into another thread). But if the Bulls are looking to sell high on Taj, now is the time, and Faried would be a very interesting bench PF who would be a total freak in a Thibodeau defense...to say the least. I don't see this happening.

But I definitely see Faried wearing OKC jersey (where he won't flourish) or a Heat jersey (where he fits in so well that it's scary)....

do the heat have a first round pick..and i could seriously see faried going earlier than the knicks..his motor and rebounding ability is coveted

 

[ZAN]

The Knicks don't play defense, Code Blue....and while the D'Antoni tempo is high, it's not high to the point where Faried doesn't factor in as a hindrance to the style. In the Miami break, you want your 4/5 cleaning glass, throwing an outlet to James/Wade, and sprinting ass up the floor to get a lob dunk. A defensive PF isn't the answer to their defensive liability...It's a coaching issue and a refusal to dedicate to half court defense...Faried, at most would lower the opp ppg from 106 to maybe 100-101-102....that's still BAD....

In the D'Antoni break, it's rebound, outlet....and a half pace break to which it slows down, and hits the man on the wing shoots (and usually a terrible shot selection) jump shot. Melo isn't a fast break player. He's an isolation player. The pace will be slowed down. Billups is a half-court PG. He loves to post up his man and use his size. Amare is a slashing PF with a face up jumper. Faried's style (junker) on offense just doesn't mesh well. He's a great trailing PF on the fast break...but the fact is that the Knicks on the break if they don't have anything, don't wait for the trailing forward for a pass to the middle of the lane on a slash like the Heat do...when a Knicks break doesn't go for an easy layup, the ball stays in Melo's hands, the O gets stagnant and a bad shot USUALLY ensues. Miami fires the outlet, gets down, if the break stalls, they look for the slashing PF (Faried) diving to the rim, if not....ball reversal to Wade/James on opposite wing, and a weak side attack. The Melo factor KILLS Faried....D'Antoni wants an offensive option out there....because frankly, the guy on the break is going to shoot, open or not...

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

The Knicks don't play defense, Code Blue....and while the D'Antoni tempo is high, it's not high to the point where Faried doesn't factor in as a hindrance to the style. In the Miami break, you want your 4/5 cleaning glass, throwing an outlet to James/Wade, and sprinting ass up the floor to get a lob dunk. A defensive PF isn't the answer to their defensive liability...It's a coaching issue and a refusal to dedicate to half court defense...Faried, at most would lower the opp ppg from 106 to maybe 100-101-102....that's still BAD....

In the D'Antoni break, it's rebound, outlet....and a half pace break to which it slows down, and hits the man on the wing shoots (and usually a terrible shot selection) jump shot. Melo isn't a fast break player. He's an isolation player. The pace will be slowed down. Billups is a half-court PG. He loves to post up his man and use his size. Amare is a slashing PF with a face up jumper. Faried's style (junker) on offense just doesn't mesh well. He's a great trailing PF on the fast break...but the fact is that the Knicks on the break if they don't have anything, don't wait for the trailing forward for a pass to the middle of the lane on a slash like the Heat do...when a Knicks break doesn't go for an easy layup, the ball stays in Melo's hands, the O gets stagnant and a bad shot USUALLY ensues. Miami fires the outlet, gets down, if the break stalls, they look for the slashing PF (Faried) diving to the rim, if not....ball reversal to Wade/James on opposite wing, and a weak side attack. The Melo factor KILLS Faried....D'Antoni wants an offensive option out there....because frankly, the guy on the break is going to shoot, open or not...

lol i never said he was going to the knicks:dunno:

i was just saying that his rodman rebounding ability and motor is coveted therefore i could see him going even earlier than the knicks..and you're right a great rebounder and energetic defender like faried would be a great fit for miami...he can easily clean up missed outside shots from miller and chalmers as well as iso mishaps from wade and james