Magic Number For Tigers

[brett05]

Anyway, let's get Dews to move this extra talk to a new thread, this one should be about the Magic Number

 

[whitesoxman77]

How do you know it did't hurt the team? We could be up more or have Sale be more productive.

Sale being allowed to pitch late in games during blowouts.

Misdiagnosing Morel early on

Acquiring O-Dawg

Pitching Thorton in closing situations

Not acquring a starter prior to Liriano

Mis-projecting Danks health

Sale being allowed to pitch late in games during blowouts.- Good experience for a young pitcher

Misdiagnosing Morel early on- He sucks, we got Youk, I'm moving on.

Acquiring O-Dawg- paying league minimum for a bench guy who can give any of our infielders a day off, and a veteran prescence in the club house? I dont see that as a bad move.

Pitching Thorton in closing situations- shit happens

Not acquring a starter prior to Liriano- Kenny wasn't even supposed to get Youk, Myers, or Liriano; I think he did good with what he could

Mis-projecting Danks health- agreed, went from a week to next season, but we got Quintana out of it, and he has been more consistent than Danks ever was when he was healthy THIS season

 

[whitesoxman77]

Anyway, let's get Dews to move this extra talk to a new thread, this one should be about the Magic Number

Other than identifying the magic number every day I dont see how much discussion we could get out of identifying how many games we need to win to win the division :shrug:

 

[Huffalicious]

Sale being allowed to pitch late in games during blowouts.- Good experience for a young pitcher

Misdiagnosing Morel early on- He sucks, we got Youk, I'm moving on.

Acquiring O-Dawg- paying league minimum for a bench guy who can give any of our infielders a day off, and a veteran prescence in the club house? I dont see that as a bad move.

Pitching Thorton in closing situations- shit happens

Not acquring a starter prior to Liriano- Kenny wasn't even supposed to get Youk, Myers, or Liriano; I think he did good with what he could

Mis-projecting Danks health- agreed, went from a week to next season, but we got Quintana out of it, and he has been more consistent than Danks ever was when he was healthy THIS season

You analyzed every one of those problems perfectly. The only thing thing I didn't like was that time when we were shuffling around for a fifth starter before we got Liriano. Yes, I'm talking about Dylan Axelrod.

 

[whitesoxman77]

You analyzed every one of those problems perfectly. The only thing thing I didn't like was that time when we were shuffling around for a fifth starter before we got Liriano. Yes, I'm talking about Dylan Axelrod.

Thanks! :hi5:

Axelfuck :lol:

 

[brett05]

At least you all agree that those are problems. Like I said, this team hasn't been perfect and thanks to Robin's sub average performance as a manager we are fortunate to be where we are. I think with a more experienced manager we'd be under 30 with the Magic Number.

 

[Huffalicious]

The guy has never managed before and he's going to be in the running for MOTY.

 

[brett05]

The guy has never managed before and he's going to be in the running for MOTY.

No he won't nor should he. If you have watched the games the mistakes he made are mumerous. Look I like Ribin. All time great White Sox. I got his auto at his first Chicagoland appearance just after drafting him. He may become great someday too. He's not though. Bneither teh TV guys nor the Compcast pre/post guys have him as a MOTY candidate.

 

[whitesoxman77]

No he won't nor should he. If you have watched the games the mistakes he made are mumerous. Look I like Ribin. All time great White Sox. I got his auto at his first Chicagoland appearance just after drafting him. He may become great someday too. He's not though. Bneither teh TV guys nor the Compcast pre/post guys have him as a MOTY candidate.

Haha you let Comcast sportsnet form your opinions for you?

 

[brett05]

AH no. Just saying folks that know more then all of us have a similar opinion on this matter.

 

[brett05]

I'm calling it early. Sox Win, Tigers lose...36

:soxwin:

We need a Tigers lose smiley

 

[DewsSox79]

At least you all agree that those are problems. Like I said, this team hasn't been perfect and thanks to Robin's sub average performance as a manager we are fortunate to be where we are. I think with a more experienced manager we'd be under 30 with the Magic Number.

What are you basing this "sub average performance" from?

8 games better with a more experienced manager? are you high? players are hitting their career numbers, some are playing over their heads.

Let me guess, you miss ozzie.

 

[brett05]

Moving on 36 and counting...A real shot at having this around 29 before month's end. Sweet!

 

[brett05]

Magic Number down to 31!!! Playoffs are coming!

 

[DaBearsrule4ever]

The Fiasco with Sale earlier in the year as one example.

Ummm, OK....Sale was moved to the bullpen for what, a day or two?

 

[DaBearsrule4ever]

At least you all agree that those are problems. Like I said, this team hasn't been perfect and thanks to Robin's sub average performance as a manager we are fortunate to be where we are. I think with a more experienced manager we'd be under 30 with the Magic Number.

Under 30 on August 24th with a more experienced manager? Maybe, maybe not... I would highly doubt it though. The Reds magic number for the NL Central is 24. The other 5 division leaders are at 30 or 31. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[brett05]

Perhaps I did not make my point clear. I agree with those that say this was really a rebuilding year of sorts for us. But the players have in general all played above the numbers. That said a more experienced manager would almost certainly result in more wins thanks to the lack of not making as many mistakes as a complete newb which Robin is.

 

[Huffalicious]

Perhaps I did not make my point clear. I agree with those that say this was really a rebuilding year of sorts for us. But the players have in general all played above the numbers. That said a more experienced manager would almost certainly result in more wins thanks to the lack of not making as many mistakes as a complete newb which Robin is.

Now, I'm not saying he's been a flawless manager so far this year, but would you mind pointing out some specific decisions/calls/actions that have hindered the Sox in any way?

 

[brett05]

Sorry that I don't have it on tape.

Sale to the pen was awful.
Sale pitching in the 7th and 8th inning when you knew he had to be conserved for the playoff run was bad
Pitching thorton as closer

Seems like I did this list in the past only much bigger

 

[DaBearsrule4ever]

Perhaps I did not make my point clear. I agree with those that say this was really a rebuilding year of sorts for us. But the players have in general all played above the numbers. That said a more experienced manager would almost certainly result in more wins thanks to the lack of not making as many mistakes as a complete newb which Robin is.

The Robin hiring was news to me as well when I found out but a more experienced manager guarantees nothing as the Robin hire didn't guarantee anything either.