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The Truth. After ponying up for players for many years now and recently for facilities, the front office is the Bears last bastion of cheapness. Maybe if there were four or five more guys in the room, Ryan Pace could have been talked down from paying Mike Glennon 18 million dollars, to say...five million dollars for the FA QB slated to start the season, saving 13 million. Right there would have paid for the extra FO staff for a few years. Or better yet, sign a FA QB who can actually PLAY QB. Maybe they would have convinced Pace to stand pat at the third pick if he wanted Trubisky so badly, saving two additional draft choices. Or better yet....trade down a few spots, pick up some extra draft capital...and draft Mahomes. Or not have over-drafted two unathletic tight ends. Or not have hired John Fox. Or have seen through Matt Nagy's bullshit.
Exactly.

Pace was effectively buying the groceries, redecorating the house, talking to the chef to buy the ingredients and much more. He was learning and had no one to give him any help.

If he had, many of the things that he did wrong, like you mentioned, could have been avoided. Maybe the Bears draft Watson and keep him from doing the shit he did in Houston. Maybe an assistant GM tells him straight up to can Nagy years ago and helps him to pick a better HC.

But having Teddy and George as his sounding board was a joke.
 

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Yes to this. With Getsey a good QB coach and OL coach we are all set.
I see why you would call Getsey a good QB coach. Look how he developed Rodgers into a future HOF QB. Well, that may not be a good example, Rodgers was already a future HOF QB when Getsey got there. Rodgers probably taught him much more than he taught Rodgers. What about Jordan Love... now there's a young QB drafted under his watch. In just 2 years Getsey had turned him into a... wait... why did you call Getsey a good QB coach again? Isn't Jordan Love the measuring stick we should be using when projecting Getsey's ability to groom a young QB. According to multiple packers beat writers, Getsey was never in consideration for the OC position in GB after Hackett left. Not surprising since he failed with his biggest task the organization gave him.
 

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Exactly.

Pace was effectively buying the groceries, redecorating the house, talking to the chef to buy the ingredients and much more. He was learning and had no one to give him any help.

If he had, many of the things that he did wrong, like you mentioned, could have been avoided. Maybe the Bears draft Watson and keep him from doing the shit he did in Houston. Maybe an assistant GM tells him straight up to can Nagy years ago and helps him to pick a better HC.

But having Teddy and George as his sounding board was a joke.

Questions: How much of that was due to George and Ted vs how much was Pace? We'll likely never know. But, is there any evidence to suggest that Pace asked for more front office people and was denied? Or is it just that Pace wanted to do his thing and didn't want those other voices?
 

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Questions: How much of that was due to George and Ted vs how much was Pace? We'll likely never know. But, is there any evidence to suggest that Pace asked for more front office people and was denied? Or is it just that Pace wanted to do his thing and didn't want those other voices?
Seeing that George already said that no president of football operations was going to be hired tells you all you need to know. The Board (the McCaskey family) decided that they did not want to pay for a front office like other NFL front offices.
 

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