Mike Glennon Expected To Land 14-15 Mil Per Season

[IBleedBearsBlood]

Maybe Pace is playing poker with BB and really wants JG? I hope..

Man that's what I fucking hope for. Making it seem they are out of the race so other teams won't keep adding to their proposal. Just make it happen Pace. **** I hate this. I'll root for him and the Bears every Sunday but damn, I do not want Glennon.


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[Wild_x_Card]

The preemptive butthurt is strong with this one.

 

[DaaBears]

Maybe Pace is playing poker with BB and really wants JG? I hope..

Or maybe he doesn't have any interest in either one of them.

 

[modo]

It takes a lot of work to get butthurt for something that hasn't happened yet...

Even if the Bears take Glennon I'd still wait for the draft and see what happens.....


I have a hard time believing Glennon is the Bears future and I don't think Pace believes it either.

 

[dbldrew]

Or maybe he doesn't have any interest in either one of them.

Im not sure I follow your thinking. If he doesn’t want to trade for JG then who is he trying to bluff into a better deal by pretending to go after Glennon?

 

[remydat]

Does the money/contract predicate or influence the likelihood of the Bears drafting a QB @ 3?

I think any contract over 10 mil a year points to the fact Pace has no intention of drafting a qb @ 3
I think any contract over 14 mil a year points to the fact Pace has no intention of drafting a qb @ 3 or 36

What is everyone's opinion?

I think it depends. You guys are trying to come up with hard fast rules but I think the situation is more fluid than that.

1. Garrett
2. Trubisky
3. Allen
4. Hooker
5. Adamas
10-25 - Other players besides Watson and Kizer.

Suppose this is Pace and Fox's board. In this scenario Garrett and Trubisky could be gone by the time the 3rd pick comes up. So what is he going to do here. In a world where he resigned Hoyer, he's going to end up taking a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round and they are going to roll with Hoyer when that may lead to more losses and while Pace may be safe, there is no guarantee those extra few losses he takes with Hoyer aren't going to cost him his job.

So the logical thing to do is sign Glennon and then see how the draft unfolds. If Trubisky or Garrett somehow make it to 3 then **** it you take them. If not you take the prospect you have ranked higher and then get a QB later on.

The flaw in your logic is assuming that Pace and Fox have all 3 QBs graded similarly enough that they are ultimately happy with taking any of the 3 with the 3rd pick. However, it is quite possible they have one of the QBs rated head and shoulders above the rest but have no guarantee that QB is going to be there at 3. In that scenario, the smart thing to do is get the best QB you can afford on a short term deal that only costs money and then see how the draft unfolds.

 

[Broc]

Glennon is far far better then Jay starting again this year. I don't want or expect Glennon but the only reason he would be brought here is Pace wants a young gun this draft and thinks he will not be start ready. Fix the team and Glennon could be a legit QB but we probably ruin him to save the rookie, as we make the team better.

Still makes no sense... Why the **** would you pay Glennon $14/15M to be a temporary stop gap when you could sign Hoyer again to do the same thing for $2M?!?

 

[bearmick]

Or maybe he doesn't have any interest in either one of them.

That would be even better.

Having said that, I far prefer the idea of getting Glennon than Garoppolo and it isn't even remotely close. Garoppolo won't just be a high paid starter but will cost draft capital to acquire, and would not be an investment but THE investment in the Bears' future.

Glennon will not cost draft capital and the deal could be used as a bridge by the Bears while a draft pick develops a year, and serves as an opportunity for Glennon to showcase himself and attempt to establish himself as a starter in the league.

So I think Glennon makes far more sense. But aside from simply making more sense, I'm not even sure that Garoppolo is better than Glennon anyway.

 

[DaaBears]

That would be even better.

Having said that, I far prefer the idea of getting Glennon than Garoppolo and it isn't even remotely close. Garoppolo won't just be a high paid starter but will cost draft capital to acquire, and would not be an investment but THE investment in the Bears' future.

Glennon will not cost draft capital and the deal could be used as a bridge by the Bears while a draft pick develops a year, and serves as an opportunity for Glennon to showcase himself and attempt to establish himself as a starter in the league.

So I think Glennon makes far more sense. But aside from simply making more sense, I'm not even sure that Garoppolo is better than Glennon anyway.

For what it is worth, I prefer Glennon over Garoppolo too, by a lot actually.

 

[bearmick]

Still makes no sense... Why the **** would you pay Glennon $14/15M to be a temporary stop gap when you could sign Hoyer again to do the same thing for $2M?!?

Hoyer is atrocious. His numbers don't reflect his talent. He'll eat up clock on chain-moving drives between the 20s but can't do anything in the red zone. The Bears can't afford 16 points per game and 4 wins in 2017. Glennon at least might do a little better. Not much point in a stop gap if you're fired before you get over the gap.

And I don't think he'll get $14/15M.

 

[Mdbearz]

Glennon is the best options for a Starting QB this year.

 

[nc0gnet0]

I think it depends. You guys are trying to come up with hard fast rules but I think the situation is more fluid than that.

1. Garrett
2. Trubisky
3. Allen
4. Hooker
5. Adamas
10-25 - Other players besides Watson and Kizer.

Suppose this is Pace and Fox's board. In this scenario Garrett and Trubisky could be gone by the time the 3rd pick comes up. So what is he going to do here. In a world where he resigned Hoyer, he's going to end up taking a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round and they are going to roll with Hoyer when that may lead to more losses and while Pace may be safe, there is no guarantee those extra few losses he takes with Hoyer aren't going to cost him his job.

So the logical thing to do is sign Glennon and then see how the draft unfolds. If Trubisky or Garrett somehow make it to 3 then **** it you take them. If not you take the prospect you have ranked higher and then get a QB later on.

The flaw in your logic is assuming that Pace and Fox have all 3 QBs graded similarly enough that they are ultimately happy with taking any of the 3 with the 3rd pick. However, it is quite possible they have one of the QBs rated head and shoulders above the rest but have no guarantee that QB is going to be there at 3. In that scenario, the smart thing to do is get the best QB you can afford on a short term deal that only costs money and then see how the draft unfolds.

Is it possible that your in possession of an extra chromosome that simply makes it impossible for you to answer even the most basic of questions?

Again I ask "Does the money/contract predicate or influence the likelihood of the Bears drafting a QB @ 3?"

I did not ask " Does the way the draft unfolds influence the likelihood of the Bears drafting a QB? Any idiot would know the answer to that question.

 

[remydat]

Because it assumes that Pace doesn't prefer Glennon. And it allows/projects for a scenario where Pace signs Glennon and still uses the #3 pick on a QB. It assumes that Glennon is good enough to battle the #3 overall pick for the starting QB spot, yet at the same time it assumes that Glennon is bad enough to battle a mid-round pick for the starting QB spot.

No it assumes Glennon has some risk because he hasn't started for 2 years. And it assumes that rookie QBs need time. There are first round QBs that end up needing a year (Goff) and there 4th round QBs that end up starting right away (Prescott) and everything in between. The assumption here is that things are uncertain and so you make decisions to address that uncertainty. How much time a rookie QB needs is unknowable hence why you get a vet that you feel good about starting in the interim.

But there was a clear delineation with the Skins. It was RG3's job. Cousins was the backup. There wasn't an open competition between the #3 overall pick and a pricey unproven FA. The Skins' situation cost less money. The Skins' situation had a clear #1 and #2 QB. The Skins didn't use RG3 as 'insurance' in case Kirk Cousins didn't develop.

This delineation has no bearing on things. Who gives a ****. Delineations don't count for wins and losses. In this scenario, it would be Glennon's job to lose and depending on when you draft your QB, you would perhaps have different expectations of when said QB can beat out Glennon. However, that is all it is expectations. The reality is uncertain which again is the point. Fox and Pace may expect for a 1st round QB to beat out Glennon sooner but that day may never come. Fox and Pace may expect a 3rd round QB to take 2 years to challenge for the starting gig but he may end up beating out Glennon after the preseason. The issue here is that you are cherry picking which assumption suits your argument and acting like your cherry picked assumption is what will happen. I am saying I don't know what the future holds and so getting Glennon is simply a recognition than none of us are psychic. It's like you watched the Logan movie this weekend and you think you are Professor Xavier now and you know what will come to pass. You don't.

What? So the Bears don't really view Glennon as their starting QB? If thats the case, then why not just go with Hoyer/Cutler as the stop gap. I think i've said this literally six times to you now, and you've yet to respond to this issue.

Because they think Glennon has a greater chance of winning more games than Hoyer/Cutler or a rookie QB that starts from day 1. And all he costs is money on a short term deal. The issue is not that they don't view him as a starting QB. The issue is they can't be certain. And the issue is they may want to take BPA. Just like the Bears could have viewed Houston, McPhee, and Young as starters but still draft Floyd, they can view Glennon as a starter and still draft a QB. Not sure why this is hard to understand.

What are you talking about? So Glennon IS the Bears starting QB, on par with Brady and Favre? Glennon is almost as unproven as a rookie. And the Seahawks really didn't don anything when they had Flynn...Wilson was a midround pick, not the #3 overall pick. You keep drawing the parallels that don't exist.

No he isn't which is even more reason to draft a QB if you consider said QB to be good value at the time you are picking. Duh!

What does this gobblygook even mean? That doesn't sound like a plan at all. It makes about as much sense as "Pace's plan to improve the offense this year is to sign some FAs, draft some players, and get better". If the Bears don't think Glennon is the solution to the QB problem, and view him as an ultra-expensive and unproven 'insurance policy', how would Glennon's presence on the roster have any effect on who the Bears draft at QB?

Glennon can be viewed as a capable starter while not precluding the Bears from taking the BPA whenever they draft just like they did with Floyd last year. Those two things are not mutually exclusive no matter how hard you pretend they are. There is no requirement for the Bears to only have one QB they think can be a good starter in the NFL.

 

[AussieBear]

That would be even better.

Having said that, I far prefer the idea of getting Glennon than Garoppolo and it isn't even remotely close. Garoppolo won't just be a high paid starter but will cost draft capital to acquire, and would not be an investment but THE investment in the Bears' future.

Glennon will not cost draft capital and the deal could be used as a bridge by the Bears while a draft pick develops a year, and serves as an opportunity for Glennon to showcase himself and attempt to establish himself as a starter in the league.

So I think Glennon makes far more sense. But aside from simply making more sense, I'm not even sure that Garoppolo is better than Glennon anyway.

Thought ud rather start Barkley instead of going after glennon

 

[Bearman 43]

Im not sure I follow your thinking. If he doesn’t want to trade for JG then who is he trying to bluff into a better deal by pretending to go after Glennon?

My way of thinking,is that he's trying get someone to make a deal to get Cutler a trade he'd accept. Even if this isn't the case I'd still rather see them roll the dice and just keep Shaw,Barkley and a draft pick @#3.

Thus using the money for players that will actually help the team,unlike Glennon whom I believe they'll also resign once they find his real value!

 

[Broc]

It takes a lot of work to get butthurt for something that hasn't happened yet...

Not really, took about 30 seconds of typing. And I wouldn't call it butthurt... more like pre-emptive mocking of the next inevitable Bears **** up.

Even if the Bears take Glennon I'd still wait for the draft and see what happens.....
I have a hard time believing Glennon is the Bears future and I don't think Pace believes it either.

If they sign Glennon you can kiss a QB at 3 goodbye. Just watch. They'll sign Glennon and bank on one of the top guys dropping to them in the 2nd round, but it's the Bears so naturally the other teams will snipe them all before our pick which will result in Pace taking some other non-QB due to his obsessive BPA approach. Rinse repeat until the end of the draft comes and he's still not drafted a QB and tries to rationalize it again with yet another "there were no franchise QB's in this draft" load of bullshit. I'd love to be proven wrong but I have 0 faith in this franchise at this point.

 

[vabearsfan15]

The fact that Glennon turned down 7+ mil to ride the bench should show you how poor his decision making is...I would seriously rather roll with Cutler whom we can cut without guaranteed money then sign this bozo who we will be stuck paying for even if he craps the bed..

 

[BearDownZZ]

There's a lot to wait and see before people jump off the bridge over Glennon.

Its really going to be about the contract. How much he makes this year, how much it costs to cut him if he doesn't work out. If its structured correctly then he makes a lot more sense simply because he's young and has upside.

There isn't a free agent QB option that will fix the situation. So its a matter of bringing in guys that give you the best chance to improve and Glennon is one of the better optoins unless you happen to like Kaepernick.

If the contract is heavy with guarantees and they don't draft a QB then I would hate this move. If its structured correctly and they still draft a young QB then I like this move.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

So the logical thing to do is sign Glennon and then see how the draft unfolds. If Trubisky or Garrett somehow make it to 3 then **** it you take them. If not you take the prospect you have ranked higher and then get a QB later on.

What I don't understand though is how Glennon is viewed better than Hoyer. Please help me understand this.

 

[BearDown3454]

I agree. Everyone losing their minds before then pen has even been put to paper and we know the contract details. I agree that Glennon isn't worth $15 million a year, but the market dictates a player's value and teams don't let top QBs walk. Everyone saying they'd rather have Hoyer and that's a crock... don't be so daft. You'll be turning your television off at halftime of every game. There's no justification to take a QB with the #3 pick. You draft those type of guys to step in immediately and start and this team does not have the weapons to bring in a rookie QB. Your going to bring in a guy like Watson to have him throw to who? Cam Meredith? Kevin White who can't stay healthy? Jeffery isn't worth the money he thinks he's worth so let someone else overpay for him. The rookie QBs available in the draft will not succeed in the current state that the Bears are in.