Mitch Vs. Nickie

[ThatGuyRyan]

Santos gonna get that record

 

[CHIBEAR]

fun thing to realize:

a lot of Nick's stats were accrued in garbage time

without a run game or Oline so its fascinating how the selective amnesia works hell Foles had Corradelle as the featured back for a game

Monty had 281 total rushing in those 8 games with Foles but 581 rushing yards in the 5 games since the bye


Im sure Foles wouldve loved to have that sorta run game and Oline play when he faced actual good teams

 

[Anytime23]

without a run game or Oline so its fascinating how the selective amnesia works hell Foles had Corradelle as the featured back for a game

Monty had 281 total rushing in those 8 games with Foles but 581 rushing yards in the 5 games since the bye


Im sure Foles wouldve loved to have that sorta run game and Oline play when he faced actual good teams

OP is doing a bit. A very boring a played out bit
but yeah, youre correct.

 

[msadows]

without a run game or Oline so its fascinating how the selective amnesia works hell Foles had Corradelle as the featured back for a game

Monty had 281 total rushing in those 8 games with Foles but 581 rushing yards in the 5 games since the bye


Im sure Foles wouldve loved to have that sorta run game and Oline play when he faced actual good teams

Except for the fact the bears fanbase, and nagy, completely gave up on mitch for the same lack of run game and oline in 2019.

The issue, as most of the smart people on here knew, was always the lack of oline.

Pace failed to address that. Nagy was too boneheaded to realize it.

There are posters here who only focus on one player, like the one above me, but for those who don't it was fairly obvious what the major issue for this offense was this past offseason. TE and Oline. We fixed one, and failed to address the other.

Turns out we lucked our way into two UDFA's making a difference. Sad.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Not identical. Both sucked in identical.

Foles didn't get the chance to play with Lazor & the new & improved under center system...NOT the 90% shotgun system where there was shit blocking, no run game, etc. BOTH QBs were bad in Nagy's stubborn shotgun RPO system. Mitch doing better without it. We haven't seen Foles without it.

Also, recent wins were vs. much weaker defenses.



Just calling it True True. Mitch has higher ceiling & lower floor. Neither are the future. ESPECIALLY with Nagy in house.

Sure, he played harder opponents, but the majority of his tds are garbage time and that 4th quarter vs. the falcons.

Again, Foles didn't have the benefit of a run game. Played with Coward on the offensive line as well and had Nagy calling bullshit.

 

[msadows]

Again, Foles didn't have the benefit of a run game. Played with Coward on the offensive line as well and had Nagy calling bullshit.

Mitch had the same thing, and worse, in 2019.

Again, foles is trash no matter what. This is not really a defense of mitch, but he's a better QB than foles. They are both bottom tier, but foles isn't a starter in the NFL. They faced each other head to head and he outplayed him if parkey knew how to kick a field goal.

 

[msadows]

Anyone who thought nick foles would be an improvement over mitch(Anytime) without a decent run game/oline combo, was delusional.

I preached it all offseason, most poked fun of me. It's impossible to play QB in this league unless you are elite w/o a run game and oline.

Sure, Foles is more accurate, but that accuracy went to shit the moment he was getting smacked around. Sure, foles can read defenses better, but that skillset went out the window the moment he got smacked around. The guy was missing wide open guys left and right.

Mitch is capable of scrambling and moving around in this pocket. IT helps the run game out also by having a QB as a run threat.

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Mitch is not solely responsible for the run game. Because it was bad last season.

They just figured out Mustipher, Bars and Ifedi (at RT) were better than the crap they kept trying. Which should be something a good coaching staff would have seen before the season started

 

[msadows]

Mitch is not solely responsible for the run game. Because it was bad last season.

They just figured out Mustipher, Bars and Ifedi (at RT) were better than the crap they kept trying. Which should be something a good coaching staff would have seen before the season started

But he is, kind of, not solely obviously, but he plays a big part in it.

They went to a heavy play action scheme. That helps the pass game and the run game. Running out of shotgun is difficult for any RB. Forte hated it. Running from under center gives you an additional second to analyze the blocking scheme. The threat of a fake also soaks up linebackers.

Foles wouldn't be able to run this scheme. This scheme is what fits this offense, not just mitch. For some reason nagy decided he wanted to fit a bunch of dudes who didn't fit his scheme into his scheme. Arob is not a good match for it, Kmet isn't really either, ancient ass Jimmy G isn't, Monty isn't.

The run game has improved for multiple reasons, but scheme is the biggest one, tbh. Every team the bears have faced for 2.5 years now has forced the QB to beat them. Foles failed hard at that task.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Lol no.

Foles opponents' current combined record, 61-44
Trubisky opponents' current combined record, 42-76

C'mon, man, how blind are you?

 

[msadows]

Foles opponents' current combined record, 61-44
Trubisky opponents' current combined record, 42-76

C'mon, man, how blind are you?

How many of foles TD's are in garbage time or not against the falcons when he fooled us all?

He threw 3 TD's against the colts/titans when the game was super over. He threw 3 TD's in that first game to fool us all.

Outside of that he's thrown 4 td's to 7 INT's. Guy was god awful. Even if you factor in his miracle 3 TD comback he's 7Td's to 8INT's in non garbage time.

That's a god awful stat line in todays nfl for 7 games played. Foles is trash. The only thing foles did for this team is make nagy finally realize he's a moron.

 

[Novoitus]

without a run game or Oline so its fascinating how the selective amnesia works hell Foles had Corradelle as the featured back for a game

Monty had 281 total rushing in those 8 games with Foles but 581 rushing yards in the 5 games since the bye


Im sure Foles wouldve loved to have that sorta run game and Oline play when he faced actual good teams

imagine the blenderbrain you must have to think this run game would work w/ Foles under center

 

[Novoitus]

OP is doing a bit. A very boring a played out bit
but yeah, youre correct.

oh wow, you have a blenderbrain too

 

[Warrior Spirit]

How many of foles TD's are in garbage time or not against the falcons when he fooled us all?

He threw 3 TD's against the colts/titans when the game was super over. He threw 3 TD's in that first game to fool us all.

Outside of that he's thrown 4 td's to 7 INT's. Guy was god awful. Even if you factor in his miracle 3 TD comback he's 7Td's to 8INT's in non garbage time.

That's a god awful stat line in todays nfl for 7 games played. Foles is trash. The only thing foles did for this team is make nagy finally realize he's a moron.

Foles was behind an o-line that was at its worst and as bad as can be and Bears still had no run game. Line has since been revamped. I'm not the numskull HC who kept the far less mobile QB in when the line was as bad as it was. Would have played it differently but when you completely disregard the caliber of opponent each has faced, the quality of protection they were each afforded, you're missing a lot cause the difference was night and day.

 

[Novoitus]

Foles was behind an o-line that was at its worst and as bad as can be and Bears still had no run game. Line has since been revamped. I'm not the numskull HC who kept the far less mobile QB in when the line was as bad as it was. Would have played it differently but when you completely disregard the caliber of opponent each has faced, the quality of protection they were each afforded, you're missing a lot cause the difference was night and day.

just imagine how damaged your brain needs to be to post something like this.

actually imagine.

it's insane.

i thought facilities took awake devices that had access to the internet but looks like you smuggled something in

 

[Warrior Spirit]

just imagine how damaged your brain needs to be to post something like this.

actually imagine.

it's insane.

i thought facilities took awake devices that had access to the internet but looks like you smuggled something in

Get back to me when Bears win a game against a team with a winning record w/Trubisky and you've gone through rehab.

 

[Novoitus]

Get back to me when Bears win a game against a team with a winning record w/Trubisky and you've gone through rehab.

Can everyone pray for @Spartan? He is an alcoholic that has been recently diagnosed w/ severe brain damage from a fall he took.

 

[msadows]

Get back to me when Bears win a game against a team with a winning record w/Trubisky and you've gone through rehab.

The only team we beat w/ foles that has a winning record is the bucs, and we probably win that game with mitch too. Thats the last game the defense actually dominated....

 

[msadows]

Also, Spartan, Mitch played with a worse oline in 2019. He still outperformed bitch nick in 2019.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

Can everyone pray for @Spartan? He is an alcoholic that has been recently diagnosed w/ severe brain damage from a fall he took.

I see your rehab is not going well. First step is admitting your addiction(s).