Myles Garrett?

[hyatt151]

So your wife sleeps with other men?

she sleeps with me because unlike you I don't need viagra, now go home and get your shine box

 

[Discus fish salesman]

she sleeps with me because unlike you I don't need viagra

Geriatrics like you generally do, but I guess you have accepted never having sex again. I hope she has accepted this too and isn't getting the wood laid elsewhere why you spend time an a message board of a team you aren't even a fan of.

 

[hyatt151]

Geriatrics like you generally do, but I guess you have accepted never having sex again. I hope she has accepted this too and isn't getting the wood laid elsewhere why you spend time an a message board of a team you aren't even a fan of.

Been married for 40 years, if she was looking elsewhere to get laid, I Certainly would know about it, small town an all

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

you whine an awful lot for a fan base who claims not to care, wasn't the case when the lions sucked

How am I whining? I’m simply stating the Bears don’t care about the Lions.

Haven’t you noticed by now that Bears fans really only talk about other teams in the division when their fans troll this site? Like you and fish boy. And those two Packer trolls who got booted. Bears fans don’t care about your teams. You all just flood a Bears forum for whatever reason.

 

[nc0gnet0]

But he doesnt. If we define good as games with at least 2 TDs then it is 3 to 0 in favor of Caleb. If we define it as games with over 100 rating then it is 3 to 3. If it is 300 yard games, then it is 2 to 1 in favor of Caleb. So you again are wrong.


We know you are wrong because when confronted your goalpost moving ass tried to change it to who he played. Sure sign you knew you were wrong.

NO, because I am not allowing you to define good games. Nice try though. I said good, not great btw, dumbass.

 

[remydat]

you whine an awful lot for a fan base who claims not to care, wasn't the case when the lions sucked.

Sorry you are confused. Whining would be if we went on the Lions forum and started talking shit about the Lions.

This is a Bears message board set up for us to discuss the Bears. The only whiny cunts are the non-Bears fans coming on here trying to tell Bears fans how to enjoy our team.

There are plenty of websites for fans of other teams to interact with one another. This isnt really one of them. So by definition the whiny cunts are the fans of other teams who are so desperate for their team to be relevant that they come to the more popular Chicago sports message board to whine about the fact Bears fans talk favorably about the Bears.

 

[remydat]

NO, because I am not allowing you to define good games. Nice try though. I said good, not great btw, dumbass.

You didnt define good dumbass. So basically what you are saying is a Lions fan is going to define good in the dumbest way possible to justify a stupid argument said fan made and which would run counter to what 99% of actual Bears fans and anyone with a brain thinks.

Do you get how stupid you sound?

 

[UChiLAbear]

You were the one who posted about Khalil Mack which that trade happened in 2018. Isn’t that past value? So since you brought up the past, so did I.

I mean seriously, the Lions have fans that dress up like Lions and where “SB Rings” on their head when they have never win a SB.

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And I believe the only NFC team that has never been to the SB.

 

[bears51/40]

Trubisky had more good games, prior to the Mack trade, than CW does now. Yet Bears fans want to go down the same road hoping for different results.

The argument you are making is not an apples to apples argument considering you are comparing what Mitch did in 12 games as opposed to the 6 Williams has played. A more complete argument would be comparing each of their first six starts. That's where Williams would blow Trubisky away.

 

[UChiLAbear]

I already addressed this. Of course he isnt throwing for 5k yards and 50 TDs but we wouldnt have needed him to in order to win in 2018.

Trubisky had combined 27 TDs and 3700 yards. Mahomes is better so if he was say 4k yards and 35 TDs combined then that is probably a SB team given we had a top defense.

Bear in mind that year the Pats beat the Rams 13-3. We beat the Rams that year 15-6 and embarrassed Goff. We lost to the Pats that year by 7. So Mahomes in lieu of Trubisky and we still beat the Rams and beat the Pats as well IMO.

OT trivia.....I've mentioned previously that win over the Lambs is the ONLY game in the SB Era that only an O-linemen score a TD. No other position scored a TD. Neither on Offense nor Defense. Amazing it has happened only once in the 58-year SB Era.

 

[UChiLAbear]

a few have said they wouldn't be willing to move a 1st and 3rd, anything less than that is next to nothing, plus the bears would have to do some serious maneuvering to fit him within the cap with little available, so it's hardly has a chance of happening

And if it does happen, which I believe it won't, da Bears will have buyer's remorse in 2-3 years. Poles is too calculating of a GM to not be looking down the road for da Bears. He's not out to please the IGC. (Instant Gratification Crowd)

 

[hyatt151]

And if it does happen, which I believe it won't, da Bears will have buyer's remorse in 2-3 years. Poles is too calculating of a GM to not be looking down the road for da Bears. He's not out to please the IGC. (Instant Gratification Crowd)

he has been in the past

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

And I believe the only NFC team that has never been to the SB.

But the past doesn’t matter remember!!

 

[UChiLAbear]

Mack took the D to a level that could have won a Super Bowl with an offense to help out.

To consider the Mack trade a failure because Mack didn't also lead the offense is ridiculous.

Hell, if double-doink had made a FG, they may have made it even with that offense. If anything that proved it was a move worth making.

With all the picks that the butt-hole pace gave away and the shit organization that da bears have been before Poles arrived; I don't see how one can say it wasn't a failure. We'll need to agree to disagree. Not only with you but with the others who somehow think it didn't fail. It failed miserably for the next 3 years and adding the bad records for '22 & '23. And if the double-doink didn't happen, how do we know da Bears would have beaten the Rams a second time? Or the Pats in the SB? We can speculate until the Kingdom comes, but that trade did not take da Bears any closer to a SB than if the trade wasn't made. And da Bears would have had all those picks back.

 

[UChiLAbear]

he has been in the past

You may be right....but I'll need an example.....and I prefer your definition of IGC and a long-term solution on the player you will be using as an example.

 

[UChiLAbear]

But the past doesn’t matter remember!!

And those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.....

 

[MikeDitkaPolishSausage]

And those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.....

Oh I can guarantee the Lions winning ways won’t last a long time haha

 

[TL1961]

what about this season, you're looking up their crack once again, and unlikely to catch them

That one game lead is insurmountable?

 

[Myk]

Myles Garrett is locked up for 2.5 years (Caleb Williams rookie contract window). He’s the reigning defensive player of the year. The goal would be to win a Super Bowl in that window. The Bears could then ship him off via trade or get a compensatory draft pick.

Again, you’re exaggerating the lack of draft capital the Bears will have. As I already outlined, the Bears have CAR 2nd & their own. Plus, they can recoup draft capital ranging from 3rd - 7th round picks via the outlets I described. The Bears aren’t short on draft capital.

In 2024 there wasn’t a single guard or center drafted in the 1st round. The Bears can draft one of the top guards and centers in the draft to solidify the interior with the two 2nd round picks they have.

How are the Bears not giving Caleb Williams a “complete offense”? DJ Moore, Rome Odunze, Cole Kmet, & D’Andre Swift are more weapons than most NFL QBs get. PFF ranks the Bears offensive line 17th and I expect them to get better as they get more comfortable in the offense. The Bears can build a solid offensive line if they draft 3-4 offensive lineman in the 2025 draft, and the young guys (Darnell Wright, Braxton Jones, Kiran Amegadjie) continue to develop.

So blow it all to win once or twice and then nothing because you don't build a team around the #1 QB? Smart move.

None of those picks you talk about are making up for 2 1st rounders. That's no replacement OT for 2 years, that's no center for 2 years, that's an injury to the #1 QB and no super bowl because of it.
LOL, no single guard or center taken simply means none were worth it. Again you getting the best out of nothing is nothing and that's what you want to give Williams. No thank you.
You've made it clear what you want and it's not an offense or a QB.

 

[remydat]

With all the picks that the butt-hole pace gave away and the shit organization that da bears have been before Poles arrived; I don't see how one can say it wasn't a failure. We'll need to agree to disagree. Not only with you but with the others who somehow think it didn't fail. It failed miserably for the next 3 years and adding the bad records for '22 & '23. And if the double-doink didn't happen, how do we know da Bears would have beaten the Rams a second time? Or the Pats in the SB? We can speculate until the Kingdom comes, but that trade did not take da Bears any closer to a SB than if the trade wasn't made. And da Bears would have had all those picks back.

That traded netted Mack, Kmet and Brisker. So in the end it was Jacobs and Arnette for 3.5 years of Mack, Kmet and Brisker. Bears win that trade easily.

Feel free to go back and draft whoever was available with those 2 firsts if you feel the Raiders made poor picks and I doubt you get equivalent value. You might get a better team in the later years but with Trubisky you still fail and a better team possible means not getting the first that allowed us to get Caleb, Moore, Wright and Stevenson and a 2025 2nd.

So again the problem still comes back to Trubisky over Mahomes.