NFL sound track, Trestman comment to the ref...

[46bearsd]

Speaking solely as a guy who wears the stripes on the weekends, and not a Bears fan in this instance, I think that goal line series was handled correctly by the refs. My guess is they said no touchdown on first down, because it was first down. It's kind of a cop out, but I don't think you can reasonably say the ball was across the goal line before the knee hit. There was just no evidence of it on the replay. If it were any other team than the Bears, my guess is that everybody would agree.

As for the pass on second down, meh - I'd like to see a replay of that again. Third down run, same as first down. In the end, they got the ball in the end zone which is all that matters and in the end the clock was running on first, second, and fourth down. I'll take that any day of the week.

on the first one you could piece together a view of a couple replays and see his elbow was the first to touch the ground...in which case the ball was clearly over the plane. on the second one - i think it was one of those if it had been called a touchdown, it would have not been overruled either. The way i see it Bush scored 3 touchdowns on that series!

 

[BearDownZZ]

I like the idea of ref's over-ruling one another if that ref gets a clear view and has confidence. However, because we have replay and because refs get it wrong and because there are tons of close plays, it makes 100% sense to change the rules so that ref's cannot over-rule one another on a TD. If any ref calls it a TD, even if they are blatantly wrong... then the play is a TD and is automatically reviewed. If they are clearly wrong, then it gets reversed.

That would help with that run where the 2nd ref came in and over-ruled the TD from one of the sideline refts. That was way too close to call for that ref to come in and over-rule it. That's what makes me so mad about that play. How can that ******* be so confident as to over-rule the TD. Even if you think it wasn't, it was certainly too close to tell with the naked eye.

And of course, since Goodell is trying to make this a fair and super offense league, it would make sense to sit down in the refs meeting and ask them to error on the side of a TD on close plays. If it looks like it could be, then call it.

 

[MidwestDichotomy]

They just need to review every play in the endzone regardless of what is called on the field. If it is a possible score it should be an auto booth review and if close a ref review, period.

I would take it a step further and simply have them do replay like they do in college football. Every play is subject to possible review from the booth, and both coaches have one challenge per game if they want a play looked at that the booth didn't deem worthy of review. I've never been a fan of the whole "the refs obviously got the call wrong, but the team is out of challenges, so the play just stands" dynamic. I don't think a team should get screwed by a bad call just because they don't have a timeout.

 

[mattb78]

The refs were suspect that entire game IMO. Several late hits on Cutler that didn't get called either. But I don't think it is a conspiracy against the Bears, whenever one team is down alot of points, the refs always favor the other team. It is to try and keep the score closer and keep people watching. Its not the NBA conspiracy where they want one team to win, it is just a ratings things. 2 scores down, less than 3 minutes on the clock, with the losing team driving you are going to see more pass interference calls and less holding than you would normally. Doesn't really effect the outcome, just keeps a few more viewers on the hook.

With challenges and reviews, it still keeps the game from getting too far affected.

 

[JJ-28]

Ok I'll give the Refs the no TD on the running plays not that I am in any way saying they were right, because they weren't. But come on now on Bennett TD the Ref was standing 5 feet away. Once he seen the Bennett make the catch his eyes should have been on it feet, you could clearly see the first foot was down and the second foot was kicking up turf, once he seen that his eyes should have gone back to the ball to make sure he had mantained control. Regardless if he was only looking at the ball or Bennett feet it still should have been called a TD but from where he was standing he should have seen both at the same time.

I have been around football all my life and yes I have seen my fair share of games called right down the middle. I have also seen my fair share of game where it seems like certain alway get the call in there favor.

 

[SERE Bear]

He basically said to the ref, if one ref calls it a TD and the other doesn't shouldn't that be automatically reviewed?

:clap: :clap: :clap:

I saw that and liked how he was "working" the refs. His approach was perfect IMO, not over the top but making a case that could influence future decisions. I was also impressed that he asked how the Refs 6 kids (by name) were doing.

 

[Bearsfan7954]

So tell me how that worked out on the 1st and goal yesterday when one ref called it a TD?

Your reasoning has a major flaw you can see that right?

My reasoning is not flawed, so I will say this again. I agree with you that as the rule stands now that if 1 ref calls it a TD then it should be an auto review. What happened was 1 called it a TD the other did not they had their little meeting and came to the conclusion that it was not a TD hence no review. My whole point was not to change the rule to if 1 ref calls it a TD then it is an auto review but CHANGE the rule completely. Make the rule as follows. If it is a play in the endzone it is a auto review. So It does not matter if 1 ref all refs or no refs call it a score or not, it is reviewed period. Or do what another poster said and all plays are reviewed in the booth and if the booth thinks it was the wrong call have the refs review the play so a team does not get screwed by a bad call when they cannot challenge it because they are out of timeouts.

 

[Monk]

IIRC Earls TD was waved off by a ref on the other side of the field or at least in the middle of the field who couldn't have know if he was out or not. If a guy comes up with the ball and was really close to a TD as far as you can tell, shouldn't the call be TD?

Also on Bush's 3rd down run, the ref on that side had a clear view of the ball. What the crap was he watching? I'm glad the team is actually good enough to overcome bad officiating this year.

 

[JaySix]

Make the rule as follows. If it is a play in the endzone it is a auto review. So It does not matter if 1 ref all refs or no refs call it a score or not, it is reviewed period.

so who decides if the play is in the end zone?