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I agree and that we should have traded up in the second to get one.
Yeah I'm scratching my head on letting Schneider slip thru.

I like Reichel. I don't mind the goalie. But seriously, I would have been fine trading the second and thirds for another first or working out a package to get Schneider.

The Rangers aren't gonna be a joke in a year. They are a scary team so long as they can keep all that talent under the cap.
 

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I made a simple statement about an article, and you said I was wrong. So I assumed you had inside connections to back your certainty.

I am not . sure what you cannot comprehend
Ahhh...i see now. You think i said "they werent" as in trading up, which would be illogical since i wasn't in the draft room. I replied "they weren't" as in, correct about the pick, to the last part of your post, because I'm actually in the future where his "innate abilities" cannot out perform Lapierre and Schneider, or a handful of others selected in the top 40 for that matter, totally logical and not having a 3 times annually draft melt down(sarcasm).

Freaking top 5 talent on the board and we are talking about innate right place right time in the German slow motion twilight zone hockey scheme.
 
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Reichel looks to have a quick first couple steps I'll give him that, PK potential might get him in the 12 sooner than later.

At the end of the day he is Kamp 2.0, except we paid alot for him given the draft board.
 

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Same here. I was REALLY hoping Stan wouldn't pick him.
Way too risky.

I would have preferred Schneider but I'm OK with what we got.
I thought Schneider was obvious. Best talent remaining that wasn't overly concussed. I think Reichel is okay, don't get me wrong, but if Stan really wanted him he could have traded down.
 

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anyone else ever notice how slow the Germans play hockey? They simply don't have the stick skill and compensate by standing strong over the puck, which works at the youth level. That's why I call it German slow motion twilight zone hockey.
 

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Shaw, Crow, Boqvist are all damaged goods too then.

Its sounds like twisted vertibrae. All the kid needs is yoga for 6 months and he'd be your top 5 guy again.

"Lapierre is the wild card of this draft," Button said. "I should probably have him higher based on his potential, because I think he's a top-five player if he can return to full health. He's the best two-way player in the draft."

I'm telling you. I broke my neck in rugby and couldn't work for 5 years. Hot yoga unfuzed like 3 vertebrae in my back and neck and it all went away forever.
Did you miss the scouting reports about how many concussions the kid has had? He's a risky pick. A single headshot may end his career. If this was 2016 maybe the 'hawks take the risk because they still have most of their talent, not now when they need as many players to hit as possible.
 

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Did you miss the scouting reports about how many concussions the kid has had? He's a risky pick. A single headshot may end his career. If this was 2016 maybe the 'hawks take the risk because they still have most of their talent, not now when they need as many players to hit as possible.
The latest medical I saw said they weren't concussions.

The first one might have been, but it was actually a twisted vertebrae causing him headaches, confusing the diagnosis of the next few.

A little chiropractic and some yoga, at 18...right as rain. He's been doing physiotherapy and strengthening his neck, he has good musculature and a nice sized neck.
 
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And I like the 5th round pick as well, Phillips. Those two guys in the 4th and 5th give us something we can use and balance the other defenseman in the system.

Not just big but good athletes.

Its the first 4 I am irate about.

Instead of one "third or fourth liner" out of 4 picks, I think we could have walked away with two premium players. We'll see I suppose. I guess they acquired their penalty kill pressure in Reichel. yippeee...it was a need at least.
 

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Did you miss the scouting reports about how many concussions the kid has had? He's a risky pick. A single headshot may end his career. If this was 2016 maybe the 'hawks take the risk because they still have most of their talent, not now when they need as many players to hit as possible.

I we really drafting for 2021 or 2022 floor or do we need potential young studs to build around down the road?

I see it the other way, I don't see how in our position we can afford not to take the risk on the best two way player in a draft.

And if not him, than take the testosterone filled meat head like last year. Schnieder.

I can see they liked some defenders later in the draft, and so that could have been a big part of that pass, but I think we just passed on a surefire top 6 kid in Lapierre for Kampf 2.0.

Mercer probably could have solidified the third line.
I thought the Avs rubbed it in too with their selection of yet another D-men as bpa in Barron.

Wallinder, Paterka, Grans, Khusnutdinov, O-Rourke

are more players I think we look back on and curse this draft.

This kid better be like Wayne Gretsky smart or we fucked up. I guess if not Askarov we were locked into left wing or something.

I don't see the type of skill that translates to NHL speed in Reichel. Perhaps he will get there, and perhaps his floor is Kampf. Whooooped fricking do Kampf's don't win you championships. Take a fucking shot.

The 6th best player in the draft versus the 26th. It wasn't that hard.
 

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Suter-Dach-Kubalik
Cat-Lapierre-Kane
Saad-Toews-Barrett?/Tepli?/Strome?
Carp-Kampf-?

I just think it had some serious potential soon, not later. 2022, probably Kampf is in Seattle.

Maybe thats why Reichel. Got to replace Kampf in 2022. Good job.
 

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I just think it had some serious potential soon, not later. 2022, probably Kampf is in Seattle.

Maybe thats why Reichel. Got to replace Kampf in 2022. Good job.
Your on fire dude, keep preaching its entertaining.
 

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I accept the argument against Lapierre; sans injury history, he was top 5, but the injury history is there.

What I don't get is Schneider...the Hawks defense blows chunks...a big framed kid who takes pride in playing defense first, and doing so with, as Bobby Clarke would say, "Ill humour" if necessary.

How the hell does a bottom six project preempt THAT???
 

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Was Commesso the second goalie off the board?
 

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I we really drafting for 2021 or 2022 floor or do we need potential young studs to build around down the road?

I see it the other way, I don't see how in our position we can afford not to take the risk on the best two way player in a draft.

And if not him, than take the testosterone filled meat head like last year. Schnieder.

I can see they liked some defenders later in the draft, and so that could have been a big part of that pass, but I think we just passed on a surefire top 6 kid in Lapierre for Kampf 2.0.

Mercer probably could have solidified the third line.
I thought the Avs rubbed it in too with their selection of yet another D-men as bpa in Barron.

Wallinder, Paterka, Grans, Khusnutdinov, O-Rourke

are more players I think we look back on and curse this draft.

This kid better be like Wayne Gretsky smart or we fucked up. I guess if not Askarov we were locked into left wing or something.

I don't see the type of skill that translates to NHL speed in Reichel. Perhaps he will get there, and perhaps his floor is Kampf. Whooooped fricking do Kampf's don't win you championships. Take a fucking shot.

The 6th best player in the draft versus the 26th. It wasn't that hard.
We don't take the risk because we need guys to actually become NHL'ers or who can be used as pieces in a move if they peter out.

The actual Draft telecast had Lapierre listed with multiple concussions. That's too much risk for a draft pick. One errant hit and the 'hawks got bupkis. Lapierre's career could wnd before it begins and the 'hawks got nothing...no player to play or trade.

Schneider was the smart "best at the draft position" move.
 

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We don't take the risk because we need guys to actually become NHL'ers or who can be used as pieces in a move if they peter out.

The actual Draft telecast had Lapierre listed with multiple concussions. That's too much risk for a draft pick. One errant hit and the 'hawks got bupkis. Lapierre's career could wnd before it begins and the 'hawks got nothing...no player to play or trade.

Schneider was the smart "best at the draft position" move.
We'll see. You got Kane and Toews about to start using a walker, and Keith already in diapers so I think it changes the math, and you roll the dice and bet on human resiliency in 18 year olds. You go for the gold. You roll for the chip.
 
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Your on fire dude, keep preaching its entertaining.
At least we based our all important 1st round pick on how cool it would be to have 4 guys that speak German.


COOOOOL!!!

**** OFF STAN!!! WTF!!!
 

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Well Mark Kelley picked Ryan Hartman so lets have him make every pick! Psyched about it.

HIGH FLOORS BABY!!! Who needs all-stars? We are 25 deep in average guys to run the Colliton zombie forecheck system now. Just what I always wanted.

Can we get a camping chair behind our net and some misters for our own zone? Why leave? Lets hang out for a while. Take a couple fishing trips a year down to the other blue line. Turn Kane into a zombie. No need for hero puck here.
 

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We'll see. You got Kane and Toews about to start using a walker, and Keith already in diapers so I think it changes the math, and you roll the dice and bet on human resiliency in 18 year olds. You go for the gold. You roll for the chip.
18 year old resilience doesn't help with concussions.

Toews was our best player in the playoffs...followed by Dach. Meanwhile Keith and Boqvist were arguably the worst.

Schneider was the smart choice.
 

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18 year old resilience doesn't help with concussions.

Toews was our best player in the playoffs...followed by Dach. Meanwhile Keith and Boqvist were arguably the worst.

Schneider was the smart choice.
What part of the issue wasn't concussions do you not understand?
 

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