Niemis Arbitration

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[quote name="bierboy"]http://twitter.com/NHLSourcesSay



Still hope? Ton, can you do some more detective work? I know you re-tweeted this.[/quote]

All fine and dandy they want to hammer out a deal prior, but didnt the hearing commence at 0900EST????
 

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[quote name="bierboy"]http://twitter.com/NHLSourcesSay



Still hope? Ton, can you do some more detective work? I know you re-tweeted this.[/quote]



Yeah I re-tweeted it, then thought to myself... why the hell wouldn't they try and get a deal done? Kind of a silly thing for them to say since its pretty obvious.



Niemi is in his hearing right now... actually, he was in his hearing when they posted that so they may have been a little late to the party there.
 

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[quote name="bubbleheadchief"]

All fine and dandy they want to hammer out a deal prior, but didnt the hearing commence at 0900EST????[/quote]



I believe it was suppose to start at that time, but for whatever reason it didn't start until about an hour and a half later or more.



I'd venture a guess it didn't start til around 8:45AM CT to 9:15AM CT.
 

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[quote name="Ton"]



I believe it was suppose to start at that time, but for whatever reason it didn't start until about an hour and a half later or more.



I'd venture a guess it didn't start til around 8:45AM CT to 9:15AM CT.[/quote]

I didn't know his hearing started late...thanks for the update. Now all we as fans can do is sit and wait it out.
 

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[quote name="bubbleheadchief"]

I didn't know his hearing started late...thanks for the update. Now all we as fans can do is sit and wait it out.[/quote]



Hmm well now I really don't know... per Dan Rosen: "NHLPA spokesperson says Niemi's arbitration hearing went off as scheduled this morning. Now we wait."



Funny because Rogers didn't say a damn thing about it until 8:30ish and made it seem like it hadn't started yet, same with several other reporters -- wonder who is right.



Maybe it was scheduled for 9AM CT? Could of sworn I heard they all start at 9AM EST somewhere.
 

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Yep, looks like the hearing's over. Now the waiting...
 

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If the don't settle beforehand, does Niemi actually sit in during the hearing or is it all handled by his agent? Who does the negotiating on the Hawks end, Bowman?

I ask because any team will try to make the player look as bad as possible (within reason) and I wonder how often a player comes out feeling bitter towards the team.
 

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[quote name="Tater"]If the don't settle beforehand, does Niemi actually sit in during the hearing or is it all handled by his agent? Who does the negotiating on the Hawks end, Bowman?

I ask because any team will try to make the player look as bad as possible (within reason) and I wonder how often a player comes out feeling bitter towards the team.[/quote]



I think all parties know it's just a part of the business. If Niemi truly wanted to stay here and try for a repeat (taking maybe less money) he would have signed already. Looks like he's only in it for the $$$$$$.
 

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[quote name="Tater"]If the don't settle beforehand, does Niemi actually sit in during the hearing or is it all handled by his agent? Who does the negotiating on the Hawks end, Bowman?

I ask because any team will try to make the player look as bad as possible (within reason) and I wonder how often a player comes out feeling bitter towards the team.[/quote]

Pretty sure the player sits in. I'm also pretty sure management lets that player know before hand that its just a business, that they like the player quite a bit, but for the purposes of arbitration, they have to highlight the players shortcomings and weaknesses if they want to improve their case. Its just the way things are done.



I have heard numerous reports of players who walked out of an arbitration hearing totally pissed off. You have to have a thick skin for these kind of things. I guess it depends on the player as to how they take it.



I would guess, given Niemi's demeanor, that it wouldn't phase him in the least.
 

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I think all parties know it's just a part of the business. If Niemi truly wanted to stay here and try for a repeat (taking maybe less money) he would have signed already. Looks like he's only in it for the $$$$$$.[/quote]

Do you like your job? Do you want to stay there? If yes to both, let me suggest that you go to your boss and ask for a pay cut.
 

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Do you like your job? Do you want to stay there? If yes to both, let me suggest that you go to your boss and ask for a pay cut.[/quote]



How is it a pay cut? He's going to get over a 100% raise. Would be nice for me to get that kind of a raise in a city and work environment that I love.
 

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How is it a pay cut? He's going to get over a 100% raise. Would be nice for me to get that kind of a raise in a city and work environment that I love.[/quote]

Stu my response is an exagerated oversimplification.



Without knowing what Zito is asking for and the Hawks are offering, how can one conclude that Niemi is only in it for the money?
 

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What's the line on where we can keep him / dump him? i.e $2.8M we keep him and $2.9M we walk away. Anyone know the number?
 

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[quote name="Kerfuffle"]What's the line on where we can keep him / dump him? i.e $2.8M we keep him and $2.9M we walk away. Anyone know the number?[/quote]

My guess is that number is in management's hands, and all we can do is keep guessing like we have.
 

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Ha, this is going to be a great way to kick off the convention...



We lost the arbitration hearing so Niemi is going to walk, we don't currently have a starting goaltender...quick take a picture with the cup



I was at Soxfest in 2005 and Kenny got ripped for trading Rowand, I wonder if Stan gets ripped for (if) losing Niemi, and trading Buff, Ladd, Versteeg, etc...
 

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I don't see why Stan would get ripped. All those moves HAD TO BE MADE.



Jesus himself would have had to make those trade to get under the cap, Stan has done well.





Personally, I'm happy he is holding his line and not overpaying Niemi for 60gms - then having to deal Sharp.
 

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[quote name="pmxc12873"]I don't see why Stan would get ripped. All those moves HAD TO BE MADE.



Jesus himself would have had to make those trade to get under the cap, Stan has done well.





Personally, I'm happy he is holding his line and not overpaying Niemi for 60gms - then having to deal Sharp.[/quote]



QFT^
 

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