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Timberwolves under Rambis maybe?
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he ran it a bit, but the offense was certainly not triangle based. there haven't been other teams to really try to center their offense off of it. same for brian shaw in denver
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The Kobe Lakers (I mean Kobe and a bunch of scrubs) were a top 10 offense in 2005-2007. So there is really the only proof to it being successful without much else in the team. Kobe was the best player in the NBA then though.
The Jordan-less Bulls had mediocre offensive ranks, but still had a top notch defense.
Small ball works now because of the rule changes. It's harder for big men to sit around the post waiting for dink and dump because the other team doesn't have to worry about illegal defense anymore. The rules were changed in 2004-05 I think and it's taken years to adapt to it. I think we're in that Era and I think teams will start adapting and copying the Warriors. LeBrons Heat also dabbled in it numerous times.
But of course the team that has a superior defensive system while having an offense is still key to winning the championship. So if Phil can get the best and probably 5th player in the NBA again, and get the rest of the guys to play defense, he'll probably get some more championships.
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well by that logic, sure you can be like the warriors if you get the best player in the league(curry) and a top 20 player in Thompson at your guard positions. but like your triangle argument, if you cant get the best players then you wont make that work.
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when? with the bulls? I don't recall that, but if he did it didnt matter. no offensive scheme would have worked with that awful roster he was given
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Lol that team struggled to get the ball in bounds. i'm serious, i've never seen a professional team struggle so much finding a player to inbound the ball and then get it up court.
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yeah early Bulls tried it with both Floyd/Cartwright and those teams had some talent but were immature
in a perfect world were only talent mattered you're looking at a potential roster of Jay-Wade-Artest-Curry-Tyson with Jamal/Brad Miller off the bench...*no Jalen trade which was a panic move by Krause
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To win, you need top notch players. That's been proven in any system ever. But to be truly successful in the rankings you don't need the best players. That Dallas team does have a future HOF player in Dirk, but Dirk wasn't the best player in the league at the time or even close. The Suns had a well rounded team offensively and somehow got Steve nashs best years.
The small ball is easier to adapt to than learning the triangle. If you have a team that can play defense then try to up the offensive game, you can match golden state then at some point. In this season I don't think anyone is stopping them. I know regular season is regular season but the way they destroyed the Spurs kinda says something. It's just their year.
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I think that truly depends on the player(s) you have on the roster and their strengths/weaknesses. if you have a young athletic team that lacks basketball IQ, then yes up tempo small ball is the way to go. if you have a veteran team with high basketball IQs then the triangle is the way to go
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and thats pretty much what the NBA is these days
fundamentals and basketball knowledge are a lost art
its all about how high you can jump and how fast you can run
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I completely agree with you, that's what basketball is becoming. quite sad really
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You guys realize that Triangle offensive sets are run by all coaches at this point right? Including the following coaches: Thibs, Hoiberg, Kerr (and by extension, Walton).
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Phil's point guards during the success of the triangle: John Paxson, BJ Armstrong, Ron Harper, Derek Fisher.
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Phil should just coach them
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Don't believe that's the point here. Yes, concepts from all kinds of offenses are utilized by coaches, but strictly running in the Triangle offense exclusively is not. There's 1 team and 1 team only that does it now, and they aren't particularly good at it.
Only 1 coach has won using exclusively the triangle and he just so happened to the have the best player in the NBA BOTH TIMES when he was coaching. Look I love Phil to death but he is nowhere near as good of a coach as Popovich or even Carlilse in my eyes. These guys have consistently reinvented their offensive schemes to complement the talent they have, and achieved success in doing so. Phil's best attribute was getting large egos to play in a team concept and he's the best there's ever been at it. But as an X's & O's guy, Phil was surrounded by some of the best coaching minds Bball has ever seen.
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whats lol? those guys were perfect fits
