Objective look at Officiating by Refs

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Who the hell is going to get Lebron in foul trouble??? And somebody explain that charge at the end of game 4....if that wasn't a gimme for the Bulls...
 

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lebron barreled into his defender with his arm extended trying to create contact. He didn't allow the defender his right to his space, in turn, he got called for an offensive foul.

That's not a gimmie, that's the right call. Often times they won't call that foul on a superstar, but it was right in front of a ref. He was going to get that call.

If Rose did the same thing, he would've been called for it too. Though I doubt you would have anything to say, other than it being the right call. You also would call anyone who disagreed Special person or an idiot.

I know you are not going to go against lebron, but it was the right call.
 
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Who the hell is going to get Lebron in foul trouble??? And somebody explain that charge at the end of game 4....if that wasn't a gimme for the Bulls...

It would be Lebron himself.
 

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Who the hell is going to get Lebron in foul trouble??? And somebody explain that charge at the end of game 4....if that wasn't a gimme for the Bulls...

When I saw that play live I was sure it was a charge, but as soon as they showed the replay I could see that Brewer's feet were moving. I can understand why the ref screwed up the call, though, because Brewer went flying after the contact. The Bulls got the benefit of some other questionable calls as well, so the officiating was still pretty bad, but it looked less biased in favor of the Heat in game 4. The bad calls were much more balanced.

If you believe there is a conspiracy, (I don't) it looked like the refs wanted the Bulls to win to extend the series, but the Bulls were unable to do their part and come through at the end.
 
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He's up in arms over an obvious offensive foul but won't say shit about all the non calls, or bogus fouls on the Bulls.

I know he's a lebron fan, but damn.

Face facts gentlemen, lebron is getting superstar calls and touch fouls.
 

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The facts are that Lebron kicked the Bulls ass and shut down Rose and he didn't need any help from referees. The facts are that the Heat made adjustments and the Bulls didn't. The fact is in the NBA you don't call that foul at that point in the game...on Lebron, on his homecourt. Jordan got away with millions of those...Lebron is a superstar too.

However, its funny that someone can complain about a foul in the first minute of the first quarter and dismiss an obvious gift to the Bulls in the final seconds. Damn shame...and pretty damn immature if you ask me. For crying out loud....
 

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Who the hell is going to get Lebron in foul trouble??? And somebody explain that charge at the end of game 4....if that wasn't a gimme for the Bulls...

Yeah I was surprised to get that call to and you know why? Exactly what we are talking about, not getting calls. How many times have the Heat flopped their ways to calls. The Heat have flopped so many times and gotten the calls thus a means of getting us in foul trouble. I would love for someone to put that video together. It's at least 50% of their defensive strategy.
and when they always get this call it makes you tentative to do anything aggressive on offense because you can't, they will flop and get a call. also probably why rose didn't drive at end of game cause he gets mugged at the hoop and gets the call 1 in every 5 times at best.
 

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let me guess, I'm an idiot, basketball Special person, and hou is right and a knows everything about every game ever played in the history of the NBA.

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When I saw that play live I was sure it was a charge, but as soon as they showed the replay I could see that Noah's feet were moving. I can understand why the ref screwed up the call, though, because Noah went flying after the contact. The Bulls got the benefit of some other questionable calls as well, so the officiating was still pretty bad, but it looked less biased in favor of the Heat in game 4. The bad calls were much more balanced.

If you believe there is a conspiracy, (I don't) it looked like the refs wanted the Bulls to win to extend the series, but the Bulls were unable to do their part and come through at the end.

Bad officiating is one thing...biased is totally different. To say officiating is bad I would guess is an acceptable opinion. To say they have sabotaged the Bulls means you are being silly.

And this isn't just with the Bulls. There was another guy on this forum saying that Stern was sabotaging the Knicks for the Celtics...because Stern was this huge Celtics fan...total fabrications that were unfounded. I told him so. Had nothing to do with the Bulls, had everything to do with a bunch of senseless b.s. that had no ground in facts.
 

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The facts are that Lebron kicked the Bulls ass and shut down Rose and he didn't need any help from referees. The facts are that the Heat made adjustments and the Bulls didn't. The fact is in the NBA you don't call that foul at that point in the game...on Lebron, on his homecourt. Jordan got away with millions of those...Lebron is a superstar too.

However, its funny that someone can complain about a foul in the first minute of the first quarter and dismiss an obvious gift to the Bulls in the final seconds. Damn shame...and pretty damn immature if you ask me. For crying out loud....
Jordan was a 6 time champion and deserved every privilege he got.
Lebron has won nothing and get Jordan like officiating. It's disgusting.
 

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Yeah I was surprised to get that call to and you know why? Exactly what we are talking about, not getting calls. How many times have the Heat flopped their ways to calls. The Heat have flopped so many times and gotten the calls thus a means of getting us in foul trouble. I would love for someone to put that video together. It's at least 50% of their defensive strategy.
and when they always get this call it makes you tentative to do anything aggressive on offense because you can't, they will flop and get a call. also probably why rose didn't drive at end of game cause he gets mugged at the hoop and gets the call 1 in every 5 times at best.

The Bulls are missing open shots because they are afraid to drive against the flopping Heat? I don't think so...and when did the Bulls STOP flopping? Seen Omer lately?
 

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Yeah I was surprised to get that call to and you know why? Exactly what we are talking about, not getting calls. How many times have the Heat flopped their ways to calls. The Heat have flopped so many times and gotten the calls thus a means of getting us in foul trouble. I would love for someone to put that video together. It's at least 50% of their defensive strategy.
and when they always get this call it makes you tentative to do anything aggressive on offense because you can't, they will flop and get a call. also probably why rose didn't drive at end of game cause he gets mugged at the hoop and gets the call 1 in every 5 times at best.
Stop saying things like this. It shows you know nothing about basketball. Hou is the ultimate authority. His word is gospel.

I believe you are correct, but the board bully blowhard will never concede any legit points you make.
 

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Jordan was a 6 time champion and deserved every privilege he got.
Lebron has won nothing and get Jordan like officiating. It's disgusting.

This makes no sense...Jordan didn't start getting superstar calls in 1999...he was getting a decade or more before that! So Jordan somehow deserves calls that NO OTHER PLAYER IN LEAGUE HISTORY DESERVES????

Says who???
 

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Stop saying things like this. It shows you know nothing about basketball. Hou is the ultimate authority. His word is gospel.

I believe you are correct, but the board bully blowhard will never concede any legit points you make.

I held my breath waiting for you to make a legit point...all you did was whine...incessantly. Which is all you have done since the wind blew you onto this site. I don't know everything, but what is a damn shame is you don't know anything....so examine your lack of authority on the game before questioning my authority...
 

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Stop saying things like this. It shows you know nothing about basketball. Hou is the ultimate authority. His word is gospel.

I believe you are correct, but the board bully blowhard will never concede any legit points you make.

It's funny how someone you said many times to put on ignore bothers you so much.
 

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It's funny how someone you said many times to put on ignore bothers you so much.
He doesn't bother me. I can't help but see his posts if someone else quotes him. I never see his initial posts, unless I look in and see what self righteous, I'm right you're wrong bullshit he posted.

When others quote him, I see it.
 

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This makes no sense...Jordan didn't start getting superstar calls in 1999...he was getting a decade or more before that! So Jordan somehow deserves calls that NO OTHER PLAYER IN LEAGUE HISTORY DESERVES????

Says who???

huh? Pretty sure he didn't play in 1999...
 

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Jordan didn't get superstar calls when the Knicks and Pistons were mauling him coming down the lane.

lebron doesn't deserve the calls, not because he's not a champion, but because superstar calls shouldn't be a part of the game.
 

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This makes no sense...Jordan didn't start getting superstar calls in 1999...he was getting a decade or more before that! So Jordan somehow deserves calls that NO OTHER PLAYER IN LEAGUE HISTORY DESERVES????

Says who???
You are right he did get some calls before he won all six.
Maybe cause he played the game with class. Didn't dance on sidelines during games. All the immature antics, wish I could list them all. Making everyone kiss his feet telling him how much they want him on his team.
Jordan was a true ambassador to the game of basketball and how it should be played. The reason it is played is so many places around the world today.
He wasn't a complete ****** like james is. That's why he may have gotten some calls.
he also had to go through the raping the Pistons put on him with their style of play for 3 or more years. When has James ever had to go through something like that. Maybe that is where Jordan earned some calls.

oh and sorry I'll stop quoting him after this.
 

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