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Horrible choices, the only one i'd give thought to is Mattison.

A couple of these guys aren't bad. For example, D'onta Foreman is one of the most efficient runners in the league. Basically, that means he gets north-and-south in a hurry and doesn't dance around in the backfield. For comparison, he's just ahead of Khalil Herbert in the top 5 most efficient runners per Next Gen Stats. He's also top 7 in rush yards over expected, where Herbert was the best in the league last year. Montgomery is bottom 1/3 in both.

Perine and Singletary are also in the top 1/3 in both. Both of them are good receiving backs. I think Perine is a decent blocker, but not sure. Perine is a clear #2 RB though, while Singletary would be more of a 1A to Herbert, but you'd have to pay him basically what you would pay Montgomery. It remains to be seen if the Bears want a committee backfield or just want to give Herbert the lead role, but I'd take all 3 of the guys I named.
 

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A couple of these guys aren't bad. For example, D'onta Foreman is one of the most efficient runners in the league. Basically, that means he gets north-and-south in a hurry and doesn't dance around in the backfield. For comparison, he's just ahead of Khalil Herbert in the top 5 most efficient runners per Next Gen Stats. He's also top 7 in rush yards over expected, where Herbert was the best in the league last year. Montgomery is bottom 1/3 in both.

Perine and Singletary are also in the top 1/3 in both. Both of them are good receiving backs. I think Perine is a decent blocker, but not sure. Perine is a clear #2 RB though, while Singletary would be more of a 1A to Herbert, but you'd have to pay him basically what you would pay Montgomery. It remains to be seen if the Bears want a committee backfield or just want to give Herbert the lead role, but I'd take all 3 of the guys I named.
Which ones are good pass catchers out of the backfield and can make the long break away TD run? That is what this team needs and i don't see any of them as that besides maybe Mattison. I like J.Williams because of how hard he runs but he's not what we need to play with Herbert. I'd just keep Monty over any of these guys.
 

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Which ones are good pass catchers out of the backfield and can make the long break away TD run? That is what this team needs and i don't see any of them as that besides maybe Mattison. I like J.Williams because of how hard he runs but he's not what we need to play with Herbert. I'd just keep Monty over any of these guys.
Foreman has never been much of a receiver, so that's the big issue with him. Of course, Mattison doesn't really have a history of breaking any long TDs as a receiver. 28 yards is his longest catch of his career and he only has 1 run over 40. None of them are particularly fast.
 

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Foreman has never been much of a receiver, so that's the big issue with him. Of course, Mattison doesn't really have a history of breaking any long TDs as a receiver. 28 yards is his longest catch of his career and he only has 1 run over 40. None of them are particularly fast.
Well then like i said, horrible choices. Rather just draft a new RB in the mid/late rounds unless they want to go with Robinson or Gibbs early but can't see them doing that.
 

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Well then like i said, horrible choices. Rather just draft a new RB in the mid/late rounds unless they want to go with Robinson or Gibbs early but can't see them doing that.
Horrible choices for what you are looking for, but maybe not for the Bears. And your favorite is probably the slowest one. Mattison ran a 4.67
 

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Yeah that makes no sense to me. If anything the Colts should be giving up the 2024 first not the Texans. Texans really need to offer just the 2023 2nd or the 2024 1st. That is already surplus value. No need to throw in another pick. That would be 3000 points in valur vs 3140 coming back to the Bears.

As for the Colts, 2nd pick is 2600 and 4th pick is 1800. So I would go with 2023 2nd or 2024 first paired with a 2023 3rd or 2024 2nd. That would be add 790 to the Colts side and get to 2590. Could maybe squeeze out a bit more value if you presume Colts have to over pay.

The reality is unless the Colts only like one QB and the Texans take him, they will still be desperate to move up if they really want a QB as there will always be teams whose No 1 QB ends up not being the guy the Texans take so still plenty of trade partners at 2.
 
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The ONLY way the Texans feel the need to do this is:

1. They REALLY have a specific QB in mind

and/or

2. They REALLY don't want the Colts, specifically, to get a certain guy over them

..otherwise they'd be real dumb to trade up one spot.
It has little to do with moving up 1 spot and everything to do with being in a bidding war with multiple teams including a divisional rival for the most sought after position in the league. I doubt they offer that much too, but odds are the desperate Colts will show up with a bag, if Texans are convicted enough, they could make a move like this.
 

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It has little to do with moving up 1 spot and everything to do with being in a bidding war with multiple teams including a divisional rival for the most sought after position in the league. I doubt they offer that much too, but odds are the desperate Colts will show up with a bag, if Texans are convicted enough, they could make a move like this.
For sure, and to point: a scenario where both the Texans and the Colts fall in love with the same QB, and the Texans feel like they HAVE to have that guy... And not being able to endure the possibility of the Colts getting him instead + then having to play him twice a year.
 

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The ONLY way the Texans feel the need to do this is:

1. They REALLY have a specific QB in mind

and/or

2. They REALLY don't want the Colts, specifically, to get a certain guy over them

..otherwise they'd be real dumb to trade up one spot.
Well yeah, that's the logic. They want to assure they get their guy and nobody else trades ahead of them for that guy.
 

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I'm telling you, people always say the QBs are so so and all that but when it comes time to draft, teams will trade a haul to get their guy
There are exceptions. 2013 and 2022 are two examples in the last ten years when this didn't happen.

I don't think this is that year though. CJ Stroud and Will Levis fit precisely what teams are looking for nowadays. That and there just are not great players at other positions to dim the quarterback's shine. Will Anderson Jr.? Productive and I'm sure the athleticism will be there, but he's got no bend. Aside from him it feels weak at the top, which is what will invite the quarterback needy teams to make their move.
 

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Horrible choices, the only one i'd give thought to is Mattison.

I agree you can find young guys with equal or better raw skills than Monty but I think it's critical the Bears send a strong
message to the team that guys who do what they are asked get rewarded, Monty is the ideal model to prove that's important
in building the long term culture, particularly after trading Mack & Quinn.
 

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