**OFFICAIL** Bears 2024 Regular Season News & Schleisse - FTO Preferred - No ALTS! Derailing Is Discouraged!

[cameronkrazie86]

Check Out Dak Prescott’s Gorgeous New Girlfriend!

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Another useless contribution to this thread. How are you so bad at message boarding after posting nearly 30,000 posts? It's truly a skill to be this dumb. If we wanted TMZ news, we'd go to TMZ. Who "Dak Prescott is dating" has nothing to do with Chicago Bears football nor football in general.

Scheme is one of those things that just pisses me off some days. I mean I get you can’t put some 340 pound fat ass at 3 tech but in the end simply can a guy play or not should ALWAYS be the #1 factor in talent evaluation. In my humble opinion at least.

I agree with this especially considering the current head coach has won nothing of substance so being married to a scheme fit over pure talent would be a mistake. After trading down, get the most talented player you can get and go from there. If he's a great player, he'll probably be a great player in any scheme. The Bears need as much elite talent as possible and there is zero guarantee that Eberflus will even be here 2 seasons from now so take the most talented BPA and coach them up.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Then it comes down to how far does this team trade down. Trade down to Raiders at 7 or Panthers at 9 then you have to settle for that second group of defensive linemen led by Murphy, but the haul in picks is greater.

For this team would you rather have more picks or that chance at what could be a great player?

My take on the NFL is stars win games. You win with the Mahomes and Donald’s of the world. So I’d not pass up a chance for one of those guys if it’s there.

In this draft I’m hoping for a Houston trade up so I can have the best of both worlds. Extra picks and the position player of choice.

Now I might be persuaded if there’s some stupid huge trade available…. But it better slap me upside the face and make it that much of a no brainer.

 

[dennehy]

Soooo the bolded bit is 100% of why I dont like the term "draft capital." I am of the opinion that draft picks are land, like a natural resource that self replicates and which you use to create capital. I wont get into the nerdy crap that nobody else cares about, especially because we are here to talk football (and also because it is a debatable point). The reason why I am agnostic about positional value with draft picks is that draft picks save money, especially first rounders with a fifth year option. So the wisest use of a draft pick is to maximize chances of success with each draft pick.

Sometimes that ideal has to go out the window - drafting a QB is the highlighted circumstance - but if the OL in the first round is more likely to succeed (you mention that you dont think there is one for a likely Bears pick, which is a point on its own) then I think it is wise to select that player while this team is still building itself up. Eventually you either resign these successful picks at market rates or you let them go get a payday and recover comp picks.

You sound like William Cronon.

If you get that reference you truly are a nerd.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628868522402103298

Is this to suggest we get him? A guy that has a lot of miles on him and is always injured.

 

[Bust]

My take on the NFL is stars win games.

tru dat but some positions are moar impactful over others.

remember all the weapons the 49ers fielded? Some here claimed it was eezy peezy running their system as a qb, just throw 5 yard passes to McCaffrey, Kittle, Deebo and Aiyuk and that's the end all be all. Ooops vs Eagles!

All the shit teams go thru musical chairs at the qb spot. it is what it is

 

[pdxbearsfan]

@nvanprooyen Please thread ban for non Bears, non football, no one gives a shit attempt at derailing. That and being a POS.

Agreed but it looks like the NFL isn't the only league Dak is punching way above his weight class.

 

[gallagher]

You sound like William Cronon.

If you get that reference you truly are a nerd.

I had to look him up - the name is familiar solely because I am a member of the Wilderness Society. I am going to look for Changes in the Land at my library now, as it is right up my alley.

Would you recommend that one personally? And to talk football, which draft prospect are you most excited to see perform at the combine?

 

[dabears70]

You literally spend halve of your posts posting about @Anytime23 and tag @Anytime23 in your posts about him and also have @Anytime23 inside your signature and @Anytime23 named in the phrase underneath your own username so it is more believable that you acturally do care about @Anytime23 than this post indicates saying that you don't care about him because it's almost literally all you post about so for that reason, I am placing your account back upon my list of ignored IGNORAMUSES.

Hey there's the puppet with the speech impediment. Don't read your crap because i don't understand what you're saying.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1629184178079105026

Holy shit. ?

Colin Cowturd has some gems in here.

 

[dabears70]

I just do not get all the “scheme” issues you guys have with Anderson.

He’s 250 per an Athletic article interviewing him this year. Thats the same weight as Brian Burns and Mack.

The guy has been top of the lists for two years now and now that it’s draft time everyone starts to overthink it.

He’s a beast. Draft him and don’t look back.

I think some sometimes forget that none of these kids are even fully developed yet either.

 

[dentfan]

Okay, we are now officially friends. I dont even care if we come to disagreement, it is refreshing to see someone with whom I would love to share a bookshelf!

I’m not so sure anymore. My kids have slowly been taking over my shelves, thereby relegating my library to storage bins in the garage. #dadlife

If it pays out, sure. Here we are copacetic, but it comes down to evaluation and risk (which we would have a back and forth over, but neither of us get paid for this so now wouldnt be the time, right?). The OL might just be the guy with the highest potential to pay out - that is why a lineman who is not an LT (who's positional value would then be considered low, no?) can legitimately be a top ten pick for a team that has holes all over the place. Or why RB, who have a shorter shelf life than WR, could be drafted above a really good receiver in the first round. I would accept drafting Bijan Robinson with a first gained from a trade down with Atlanta or Carolina, even if Addison is on the board and could be a stud here too.

I understand how people want to play safe, but, statistically speaking, RB and DB are the safest bets in the first. I the podcast I posted, there was a run on IOL at the backend of the first that, like I’ve been projecting, would have moved a lot of DL to the second. Looking at what’s available in the 2nd vs OL, I think throwing cash at FA and drafting attributes in the fifth or later is the way to go for OL.

I will have to watch some games showing Trent Simpson. Do you have an example of a high water mark and low water mark that I can watch? I like to watch college games that I missed (since there are so many) on Sundays during the offseason.

Just start here:

2023 NFL Draft Player Profiles: Clemson LB Trenton Simpson

From now until the 2023 NFL Draft takes place, we hope to scout and create profiles for as many prospects as possible, examining their strengths, weaknesses, and what they can bring to an NFL franchise. These players could be potential top 10 picks, all the way down to Day 3 selections and...

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This Steelers fan does a great job breaking down prospects. Getting game tape on him is easy since he played for Clemson. You’ll see him attack, unlike my other favorite LB Jack Conklin who likes to have the play come to him.

There’s a dude from Arkansas who’s also pretty good and played DE at Alabama. I see why people like him, but I don’t like his game as much as Trenton’s. I can see us using him in WLB and then a big third S and as a Mug LB/S. He allows for us to have a very dangerous look in 4-3 with him as a potential pass rushing SLB. Again, he would basically be what people say Anderson could do, but hasn’t done, whereas, Trenton has the tape to show he could do and could be available at 16 and beyond.

 

[dentfan]

If they give you 2 & 12 you take it and run!

In all seriousness, I’d rather have their 12th and both first rounders next year.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

NFL Combine Preview: 5 running backs Bears must have eyes on

As the Chicago Bears get ready to head to the NFL combine, they will have eyes on some of the running backs in the 2023 NFL draft. They may be losing David Mont

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A few names I've not heard about before.

 

[dabears70]

Then it comes down to how far does this team trade down. Trade down to Raiders at 7 or Panthers at 9 then you have to settle for that second group of defensive linemen led by Murphy, but the haul in picks is greater.

For this team would you rather have more picks or that chance at what could be a great player?

Once we get past #4 (Carter/Anderson) i'm all for going down to the early teens because i think the talent level is so damn close with so many players at so many different positions. We have so many big needs at so many positions that i'm not worried at all about finding players with as much talent at 13-16 as guys that go 5-10.

 

[pdxbearsfan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628904609627471876

That's my guy!

 

[Enasic]

In all seriousness, I’d rather have their 12th and both first rounders next year.

Who you targeting at 12? Other than Bijan…let’s assume he goes #1 lol

 

[dennehy]

I had to look him up - the name is familiar solely because I am a member of the Wilderness Society. I am going to look for Changes in the Land at my library now, as it is right up my alley.

Would you recommend that one personally? And to talk football, which draft prospect are you most excited to see perform at the combine?

Changes in the Land is what I was referencing. Nature's Metropolis is even better imo, but a heavier lift. Both are great.

I feel less invested in the combine than normal this year, which is weird because the Bears are really front and center for the first time in a while.

Calijah Kancey, Anderson, Zay Flowers, Bijan, all up there.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Okay, we are now officially friends. I dont even care if we come to disagreement, it is refreshing to see someone with whom I would love to share a bookshelf!


If it pays out, sure. Here we are copacetic, but it comes down to evaluation and risk (which we would have a back and forth over, but neither of us get paid for this so now wouldnt be the time, right?). The OL might just be the guy with the highest potential to pay out - that is why a lineman who is not an LT (who's positional value would then be considered low, no?) can legitimately be a top ten pick for a team that has holes all over the place. Or why RB, who have a shorter shelf life than WR, could be drafted above a really good receiver in the first round. I would accept drafting Bijan Robinson with a first gained from a trade down with Atlanta or Carolina, even if Addison is on the board and could be a stud here too.


I will have to watch some games showing Trent Simpson. Do you have an example of a high water mark and low water mark that I can watch? I like to watch college games that I missed (since there are so many) on Sundays during the offseason.

Someday I hope to make a CCS friend. ?

 

[dentfan]

Who you targeting at 12? Other than Bijan…let’s assume he goes #1 lol

Christian Gonzalez
Jordan Addison
Trenton Simpson
I’d consider Paris Johnson, but wouldn’t be happy.

 

[gallagher]

Someday I hope to make a CCS friend. ?

Mr Blacksheep, Do you have a book rec?

And for football talk, do you have a favorite center in the draft?