***OFFICAL*** Bears GM/Coaching Search News Thread

[thenewguy]

I guess Kellen Moore is out of the running now?

McCarthy is going to get canned and Moore will be the HC in Dallas.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

The point was Leftwich O put up points without a franchise QB. He has put up points with and without a franchise QB.

Daboll has done nothing without Allen.

We all criticized naggy for over using the shotgun also and for ignoring the running game which is two things daboll is notorious for.

leftwhich should get some serious consideration. He isn’t my first choice but he’s earned having his name high on teams lists

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

The point was Leftwich O put up points without a franchise QB. He has put up points with and without a franchise QB.

Daboll has done nothing without Allen.

Okay but we HAVE a franchise QB that needs to be developed. We don’t have a loaded wr room or enough cap space or draft picks to have one next season. This is like Nagy trying to run the chiefs offense despite not having the players to work it, work with what you have. We don’t have the weapons to duplicate Leftwich’s success with a second year QB, and to get to that point is a multi year endeavor with tons of other more important holes on the offense, ie OL. It’s better in the short and long term to maximize Justin Fields.

 

[remydat]

Okay but we HAVE a franchise QB that needs to be developed. We don’t have a loaded wr room or enough cap space or draft picks to have one next season. This is like Nagy trying to run the chiefs offense despite not having the players to work it, work with what you have. We don’t have the weapons to duplicate Leftwich’s success with a second year QB, and to get to that point is a multi year endeavor with tons of other more important holes on the offense, ie OL. It’s better in the short and long term to maximize Justin Fields.

I would not make hiring decisions based on what I can or cant do next year. Not to mention, Allen took 3 years to break out so next year is not make or break.

 

[Sparks500]

I would not make hiring decisions based on what I can or cant do next year. Not to mention, Allen took 3 years to break out so next year is not makr or break.

Next year, new coach, new system, I’ll be happy with progress with a coach that plays actual football..

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

I would not make hiring decisions based on what I can or cant do next year. Not to mention, Allen took 3 years to break out so next year is not makr or break.

Lol what? Nice deflection. There’s absolutely 0 reason to believe Byron can help Justin take the next step. With Daboll there’s reason to believe we start the process next season.

 

[thenewguy]

I would not make hiring decisions based on what I can or cant do next year. Not to mention, Allen took 3 years to break out so next year is not makr or break.

Exactly. And Fields is in year one of a new offense no matter what next year. It's going to take a couple years to get this offense where it needs to go.

 

[remydat]

Lol what? Nice deflection. There’s absolutely 0 reason to believe Byron can help Justin take the next step. With Daboll there’s reason to believe we start the process next season.

You mean aside from him overseeing a top offense with 2 QBs as different as Winston and Brady? Or his 10 years of actually being a QB in the NFL?

Lol at you claiming Kreutz as an OL should have input on the GM hire bit then saying a former 10 year vet at QB with 3 years as an OC has nothing to suggest he can develop a QB.

Someone being an OL prepares someone to pick a GM but being an NFL QB doesnt help you when trying to develop one. SMH!

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

You mean aside from him overseeing a top offense with 2 QBs as different as Winston and Brady? Or his 10 years of actually being a QB in the NFL?

Lol at you claiming Kreutz as an OL should have input on the GM hire bit then saying a former 10 year vet at QB with 3 years as an OC has nothing to suggest he can develop a QB.

Someone being an OL prepares someone to pick a GM but being an NFL QB doesnt help you when trying to develop one. SMH!

It clearly didn’t as Winston never developed lol, and there’s literally nothing otherwise to suggest he can. You can continue to cry about this if you want, or you can take your L and move on.

 

[remydat]

It clearly didn’t as Winston never developed lol, and there’s literally nothing otherwise to suggest he can. You can continue to cry about this if you want, or you can take your L and move on.

Winston had a career high in TDs.

Brady went from 24 TDs to 40 TDs. In his 20 plus years Brady has had only 3 40 TD seasons. 2 of them are with Leftwich at 43 and 44 years old.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Winston had a career high in TDs.

Brady went from 24 TDs to 40 TDs. In his 20 plus years Brady has had only 3 40 TD seasons. 2 of them are with Leftwich at 43 and 44 years old.

Winston had over 30 picks. You have to stop disregarding that. For an OC to not adapt and find a way to stop that is garbage.

Also, Byron didn’t develop Brady. You really love to try and make my position something it isn’t don’t you?

 

[dweebs19]

McCarthy is going to get canned and Moore will be the HC in Dallas.

yep...that's what I think too. If Jones needed an excuse to fire McCarthy, he just got one. I think McCarthy is fired this week

 

[remydat]

Winston had over 30 picks. You have to stop disregarding that. For an OC to not adapt and find a way to stop that is garbage.

Also, Byron didn’t develop Brady. You really love to try and make my position something it isn’t don’t you?

Stop what? Bad throws and bad reads? This isnt madden dum dum.

Brady looked done hence why Kraft and BB dumped him. Brady struggled early and then Leftwich tweaked the O for him.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Stop what. Bad throws and bad reads? This isnt madden dum dum.

Brady looked done hence why Kraft and BB dumped him. Brady struggled early and then Leftwich tweaked the O for him.

Yes. Stop exactly that. If your QB can’t stop turning the ball over maybe ask him to do less.

Also, Byron still didn’t develop Brady, and no matter how much you cry about this, it will not change.

 

[dweebs19]

We all criticized naggy for over using the shotgun also and for ignoring the running game which is two things daboll is notorious for.

leftwhich should get some serious consideration. He isn’t my first choice but he’s earned having his name high on teams lists

completely agree with you. Leftwich isn't my number 1, but I think too many people are just writing him off

 

[thenewguy]

Winston had a career high in TDs.

Brady went from 24 TDs to 40 TDs. In his 20 plus years Brady has had only 3 40 TD seasons. 2 of them are with Leftwich at 43 and 44 years old.

I'm on board with Leftwich and think he runs one of the most QB friendly systems in the NFL and could do great things with Fields. Let me ask though, does it concern you that he started coaching in 2016, and has really only coached under Arians(I'm aware of the Wilks year)? It could be hard to build a staff working under one head coach and not coaching in the league for many years. It's important because he's giving full control over to the other units to start. Different people all together, but there is overlap to the Nagy situation and he is less experienced as a coach.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

completely agree with you. Leftwich isn't my number 1, but I think too many people are just writing him off

Nobody is writing him off, I’m calling into question his ability to develop a QB, since he’s never done it.

 

[remydat]

Yes. Stop exactly that. If your QB can’t stop turning the ball over maybe ask him to do less.

Also, Byron still didn’t develop Brady, and no matter how much you cry about this, it will not change.

They averaged 3.7 yards a carry which is terrible so no you have to pass to win. They scored 28.6 points so that was the best option even if the picks were not good.

All I know is Brady when from 24 TDs to 40 TDs. Sorry that is a huge increase.

It is funny how you talk about how the Bucs dumped Winston as a knock on him but then ignore the Pats gave up on Brady and dumped him.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

They averaged 3.7 yards a carry which is terrible so no you have to pass to win. They scored 28.6 points so that was the best option even if the picks were not good.

All I know is Brady when from 24 TDs to 40 TDs. Sorry that is a huge increase.

It is funny how you talk about how the Bucs dumped Winston as a knock on him but then ignore the Pats gave up on Brady and dumped him.

I don’t care what they averaged per rush. You literally don’t have to have success running the ball to have a successful play action pass game. Your job is to adapt as a coach, we just saw Nagy fail miserably at that. Clearly the picks hurt the team a lot given how impressive that defense has been the last few years and considering they didn’t win shit with Winston being a turnover machine.

What the Patriots did is irrelevant, we are not discussing whether or not to hire a member of the Patriots organization.

 

[remydat]

I'm on board with Leftwich and think he runs one of the most QB friendly systems in the NFL and could do great things with Fields. Let me ask though, does it concern you that he started coaching in 2016, and has really only coached under Arians(I'm aware of the Wilks year)? It could be hard to build a staff working under one head coach and not coaching in the league for many years. It's important because he's giving full control over to the other units to start. Different people all together, but there is overlap to the Nagy situation and he is less experienced as a coach.

No doesnt bother me as he has 3 and a half years playcalling when Nagy had 6 games.

Most guys have to start as a position coach but Leftwich did not because Arians basically had been grooming him since he was a backup QB with the Steelers.

As a backup QB one of his main jobs would have been to help Big Ben on the sidelines. So his last 4 years in the NFL as a backup is pretty much him being a QB coach.

As for putting together a staff, I would orefer he not have a bunch of caoching buddies and actually hire guys on merit not nepotism.