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[Ares]

Want Indiana to legalize marijuana? No Republican governor candidate does

INDIANAPOLIS — No Republican candidate for Indiana governor supports legalizing marijuana for recreational use. With every neighboring state making some move to legalize marijuana, all six candidat…

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I asked a friend about this because Indiana was within range for a new home.

No weed is a deal-breaker, but I do understand Indiana here.

Its very obvious the FEDERAL govt needs to get off its ass and pass FEDERAL law to govern the sale, tax, and other legal corner cases of marijuana distribution.

It could be as simple as decriminalizing it Federally and deferring to State's laws for governing weed.

This way Indiana could decide to legalize it in sympathy with neighboring States, but if Alabama really wants to keep weed out, they can legislate within their State to decide on such stringent regulation.

Why should my fellow citizens running American businesses be under this idiotic burden of hoops to jump through and weird side-project apps (CannPay) just so the commerce of this trade may happen?

The Federal government has been sitting in front of the lowest hanging fruit in centuries and neither party grabs it while in the POTUS chair.

There's no reason for the Federal govt to continue to make States uncomfortable about adjusting their laws to regulate marijuana sales and usage.

 

[ytsejam]

I asked a friend about this because Indiana was within range for a new home.

No weed is a deal-breaker, but I do understand Indiana here.

Its very obvious the FEDERAL govt needs to get off its ass and pass FEDERAL law to govern the sale, tax, and other legal corner cases of marijuana distribution.

It could be as simple as decriminalizing it Federally and deferring to State's laws for governing weed.

This way Indiana could decide to legalize it in sympathy with neighboring States, but if Alabama really wants to keep weed out, they can legislate within their State to decide on such stringent regulation.

Why should my fellow citizens running American businesses be under this idiotic burden of hoops to jump through and weird side-project apps (CannPay) just so the commerce of this trade may happen?

The Federal government has been sitting in front of the lowest hanging fruit in centuries and neither party grabs it while in the POTUS chair.

There's no reason for the Federal govt to continue to make States uncomfortable about adjusting their laws to regulate marijuana sales and usage.

I like weed.

 

[BearFanJohn]

Indiana just made Happy Hour legal. Indiana’s leadership is questionable at best. We are used to being among the last.

 

[Myk]

Its very obvious the FEDERAL govt needs to get off its ass and pass FEDERAL law to govern the sale, tax, and other legal corner cases of marijuana distribution.

The problem with that for Republicans either state or federal is they claim they're for "state's rights".
The tests are in and the Republican stance on weed proves that is a lie. Whether that is the federal Republicans not allowing state's rights or the state Republicans not standing up and saying the fed has no power.

Both sides are playing a game. The usual he said she said game that a 2 party system has devolved into.

 

[Ares]

The problem with that for Republicans either state or federal is they claim they're for "state's rights".
The tests are in and the Republican stance on weed proves that is a lie. Whether that is the federal Republicans not allowing state's rights or the state Republicans not standing up and saying the fed has no power.

Both sides are playing a game. The usual he said she said game that a 2 party system has devolved into.

I agree.

Here would be my offering if I was writing the laws here.

You look at the existing State tax laws and figure out a fair comparison of tax revenue split based on a similar commodity in alcohol.

That amount of tax revenue is split out as Federal, but otherwise States remain free to govern the sales and regulation as they do with alcohol.

So for say Illinois, they'd need to amend the laws to change and/or divert Federal tax revenue, but otherwise can continue on as normal.

This change Federally would open up big bank financing and credit lines for marijuana growers and sellers across the country.

You could buy weed on a credit card and have it delivered with DoorDash.

Relegating any commonly consumed commodity to an economic black/grey market is stupid.

We know this, we prohibited alcohol and saw the ramifications, then did it again with weed and other drugs.

If we had Congresspersons with branes they would have said "Hey guys we fucked this up in the 1920s, maybes we shouldn't do the same with weed for 80+ years"

But they don't have branes they have egos.

 

[truthbedamned]

The problem with that for Republicans either state or federal is they claim they're for "state's rights".
The tests are in and the Republican stance on weed proves that is a lie. Whether that is the federal Republicans not allowing state's rights or the state Republicans not standing up and saying the fed has no power.

Both sides are playing a game. The usual he said she said game that a 2 party system has devolved into

Has nothing to do with Congress

• On January 3, 2024, Punchbowl News was the first to report that the DEA had confirmed it was conducting its own review of marijuana as a Schedule I drug, making it clear to Congress that it has “final authority” on the decision.

DEA Considers Rescheduling Cannabis: What This Means For U.S. And Global Policy

The DEA has confirmed its review into the rescheduling of cannabis. Speculation is rife around whether the U.S. is finally heading for an "unprecedented" federal shift—and how politics will come into play.

www.forbes.com

 

[ytsejam]

I'm high as **** y'all!

 

[Anytime23]

Marijuana is for liberal homos!

 

[Myk]

Has nothing to do with Congress

• On January 3, 2024, Punchbowl News was the first to report that the DEA had confirmed it was conducting its own review of marijuana as a Schedule I drug, making it clear to Congress that it has “final authority” on the decision.

DEA Considers Rescheduling Cannabis: What This Means For U.S. And Global Policy

The DEA has confirmed its review into the rescheduling of cannabis. Speculation is rife around whether the U.S. is finally heading for an "unprecedented" federal shift—and how politics will come into play.

www.forbes.com

If the alphabets are above all governing then Congress or the President needs to get an alphabet to put them on trial for treason.

Reality is the Democrats under FDR made weed illegal. Democrats under Nixon handed him the bills to have their war on drugs and start up the DEA. Now Democrats pretend they want to legalize weed and Republicans pretend they don't. And there's the DEA for you to place your blame on. The blame is not on the DEA, the Republicans or the Democrats. The blame is on all of them and it has always been that way.

Don't forget to blame the UN next. Just ignore the part where it was the US who got that put into the UN and the rest of the world.
They could undo all of this if they wanted. They don't want to.

 

[truthbedamned]

If the alphabets are above all governing then Congress or the President needs to get an alphabet to put them on trial for treason.

Reality is the Democrats under FDR made weed illegal. Democrats under Nixon handed him the bills to have their war on drugs and start up the DEA. Now Democrats pretend they want to legalize weed and Republicans pretend they don't. And there's the DEA for you to place your blame on. The blame is not on the DEA, the Republicans or the Democrats. The blame is on all of them and it has always been that way.

Don't forget to blame the UN next. Just ignore the part where it was the US who got that put into the UN and the rest of the world.
They could undo all of this if they wanted. They don't want to.

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[Myk]

Analysis: Proximity to Cannabis Retailers Associated With Rising Home Values

Buy low, sell high.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Trump sucks

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Analysis: Proximity to Cannabis Retailers Associated With Rising Home Values

Buy low, sell high.

Maybe this is why my properties have nearly doubled in price since weed was legalized!

 

[CSF77]

Maybe this is why my properties have nearly doubled in price since weed was legalized!

Feels bull crap to me. Most of the dispensary in SoCal are in the ghetto sectors and not areas of increasing property values. If anything it goes down due to the incoming traffic and smell.

Not to mention the unincorporated areas in San Diego county are the majority of sites.

Cities have fought to keep them out and have them on watch when they open up. Shit is real.


Soncalling BS on that and they are taking one small example and trying to make a cake

 

[CSF77]

So if anything it gives losers a pit to be able to smoke bongs in public while collecting their GF's welfare check to buy the next bag.


It is not a solution. Just gives more power to losers

 

[Myk]

Feels bull crap to me. Most of the dispensary in SoCal are in the ghetto sectors and not areas of increasing property values. If anything it goes down due to the incoming traffic and smell.

Not to mention the unincorporated areas in San Diego county are the majority of sites.

Cities have fought to keep them out and have them on watch when they open up. Shit is real.


Soncalling BS on that and they are taking one small example and trying to make a cake

No, what you are doing is taking one example in one state (that is run very poorly) and applying that to every state. And you're not even looking at the actual prices, just putting your biased spin on it.
(Nobody is smoking around dispensaries here.)

If you had clicked on the actual study report it mentions things like you claim. Overall the values go up.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

Feels bull crap to me. Most of the dispensary in SoCal are in the ghetto sectors and not areas of increasing property values. If anything it goes down due to the incoming traffic and smell.

Not to mention the unincorporated areas in San Diego county are the majority of sites.

Cities have fought to keep them out and have them on watch when they open up. Shit is real.


Soncalling BS on that and they are taking one small example and trying to make a cake

What lmfao I don't live in California you mega autistic moron.

 

[CSF77]

No, what you are doing is taking one example in one state (that is run very poorly) and applying that to every state. And you're not even looking at the actual prices, just putting your biased spin on it.
(Nobody is smoking around dispensaries here.)

If you had clicked on the actual study report it mentions things like you claim. Overall the values go up.

It was from a pro weed web site so that in itself means it is bias. If it came from a neutral viewpoint site then it would be more fair.

Add to it there is no data to prove their claims. The links just show current info vs a chart that shows data changes. Not to mention not including other factors. Like Boulder. That is a college town so adding weed centers in the middle of a college. That will be profitable in it self.

Add to it the cost of housing is rising in general by inflation. You put a fun activity in the middle of a dead area of a boring state then yes it will cause people to move there for easier access thus causing a market boom.

So there are many factors to consider. I'm not responding to the other asshole because he is nothing but a jack ass. But yes your opinion is a factor in a complex situation. My case is not a state issue. The issue is people are going to do stuff like this. Take advantage and it becomes another liquor store to get wasted at. Sure there are people that are using it for medical reasons. My mother in law uses edibles for pain management as her body can not handle pain meds.

But that is one case. But the bad far out weighs the good in my area. Even the billboard ads are in ghetto areas vs higher income sectors. The reality is the main source of revenue comes from the poor vs the well to do.

 

[Myk]

It was from a pro weed web site so that in itself means it is bias. If it came from a neutral viewpoint site then it would be more fair.

Add to it there is no data to prove their claims. The links just show current info vs a chart that shows data changes. Not to mention not including other factors. Like Boulder. That is a college town so adding weed centers in the middle of a college. That will be profitable in it self.

Add to it the cost of housing is rising in general by inflation. You put a fun activity in the middle of a dead area of a boring state then yes it will cause people to move there for easier access thus causing a market boom.

So there are many factors to consider. I'm not responding to the other asshole because he is nothing but a jack ass. But yes your opinion is a factor in a complex situation. My case is not a state issue. The issue is people are going to do stuff like this. Take advantage and it becomes another liquor store to get wasted at. Sure there are people that are using it for medical reasons. My mother in law uses edibles for pain management as her body can not handle pain meds.

But that is one case. But the bad far out weighs the good in my area. Even the billboard ads are in ghetto areas vs higher income sectors. The reality is the main source of revenue comes from the poor vs the well to do.

You think Tomo Real Estate is a pro weed site? Where is the proof of that?
NORML just reports the news, they rarely make the studies. And yes they selectively pick what they report just like SAM does for the other side. Welcome to the world.

People don't get wasted at liquor stores either. Are you living in a homeless camp?
Dispensaries around me often have cops parked nearby. The law and the dispensaries are very clear and paranoid about any use on the property. If you open a package in the store you are probably face down on the ground with a gun in your neck. You are definitely removed from the store and never allowed back in.
At least that's how it was when we were medical. I haven't been back since we went legal because they no longer carry anything medical unless your condition requires being as stoned as possible. I can grow now so why would I pay those prices to get crap that does me no good?
I was just at a dentist that is right next to a dispensary and didn't smell anything like I have never smelled anything being smoked or vaped at a dispensary.

Your state very well could be different because your state also has a ton of illegal dispensaries. Most of the legal country is not like California.

My property value certainly hasn't gone down since we went legal or expanded but I'm not really close to a dispensary, only a grow shop (that I think quickly went out of business because they only sold a brand of stuff to grow the specific way they personally grew).

I'll look for the property value history around our dispensaries that are near homes.

 

[Myk]

I looked on Zillow where my medical dispensary is and where their rec dispensary was put.

Harder to say with the medical because it's been there a while. But I know they were originally in a house in the neighborhood. The prices are only going up in that area.

Where the recreational was put it looks like values dropped when we legalized. Someone panic sold and lost. After that dip they sky rocketed. Someone sold a little after a peak and made out huge from when they bought it, as in they more than doubled what they paid.
Certainly doesn't look like the dispensary is hurting home values there. Probably not the cause of the increase but not the crash SAM was claiming.

As you said there could be other reasons for the values changing, such as COVID (legalization went into effect January of that year) and generally property values always increase (because the tax man doesn't want to get less). But the house prices certainly aren't crashing around the dispensaries here.

In my city the dispensaries are in a retail only area. I don't know where they are in the other city my sister goes to that has allowed dispensaries with the expansion, I only know the grow shop there and it's downtown.

Just for fun I went to a vocally dry small town. Same dip around legalization/COVID, smaller recent peak. But that is the way of small towns and why I'm considering selling my house to move to a small town with a dispensary near where I fish. I could get my one capital gain home sale and make out like a bandit. But I'd be farther from medical.
I won't consider the dry town that has a hospital.
Again I don't need dispensaries and they can't do anything about me homegrowing, but along with that dry attitude comes stupid cops and they will find something to harass about if they don't like what you are doing.