***OFFICIAL*** Bears 2020 Training Camp thread

[iueyedoc]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1298330147553247238

Foles has thrown INT's to EJ, Michael Joseph, and J Johnson in the last few practices and he has been noted to be heavy on check downs. Haven't heard of any Trubisky INT's.

Of course this will be read and go way off track, but I was wondering if anyone has heard of a M Trubisky INT.

 

[msadows]

Foles has thrown INT's to EJ, Michael Joseph, and J Johnson in the last few practices and he has been noted to be heavy on check downs. Haven't heard of any Trubisky INT's.

Of course this will be read and go way off track, but I was wondering if anyone has heard of a M Trubisky INT.

no mitch has not thrown any ints but he has thrown some near INTS which we all know basically count as INT's....

 

[The Big Grabowski]

Mitch hasn’t thrown an INT from what I’ve been reading.

He’s had a few nice deep balls the last few practices but the criticism is that he’s still missed some throws and had that big mental lapse stepping out in the red zone. Overall his accuracy had been trending up in 7-on-7.

Foles has been checking down much more but Nagy laid the criticism down on both of them.

There’s no reason to get too high or low on any of this.

 

[Bearin' Down]

Don't think I have seen either described as 'really good' yet. The general consensus seems to be that the winner of Chicago's QB competition so far is the rest of the NFL.

You're not listening to all of the players talk then.

 

[Bearin' Down]

I think the discussion was which QB was better, not that the QB play was really good....there is a difference.

Nothing we do here matters. This is just discussion for us. If you go by your logic, there shouldn't even be a message board, because it doesn't matter.

Well, I agree, you're free to discuss whatever. I was telling you my opinion on the matter. For me, I don't see a reason to just go in a downward spiral based off of something where access is extremely limited. It's worth it to be cautious, but, idk, I feel like spiraling downwards like some on this thread is a bit too much at this juncture.

That's not the same as saying don't talk about it. Those are my thoughts and feelings not a statement of fact.

 

[and 69 others]

You're not listening to all of the players talk then.

Players compliment each other all the time, what do you expect them to say “oh same ol Mitch”

 

[Bearly]

oh well good thing other team defenses won’t be throwing curve balls at them then

Like Nagy has anything to do with D. Putting his QBs in bad positions will show him more and improve them even if they don't look purdy doing it. Never said it was the case. Just that it's difficult for reporters to really understand what's happening. The would include the QB comp or even which player is actually doing better on a a given day.

 

[Black Rainbow]

Sounds like we'll be trying to draft a QB next year from a pool of players that got cancelled this year.

Only the Bears, I swear...lol.

 

[Bearly]

Sounds like we'll be trying to draft a QB next year from a pool of players that got cancelled this year.

Only the Bears, I swear...lol.

at least there wont be enough film to fall in love with or down the rabbit hole.

 

[Hbkrusso]

Sounds like we'll be trying to draft a QB next year from a pool of players that got cancelled this year.

Only the Bears, I swear...lol.

Nah mitch is gonna light it up i have a feeling this is it boyos

 

[Warden of the Northeast]

Glad to see you guys coming around on Nagy not being a great coach. He's just a rah-rah guy, we don't need that...we need him to implement a productive offense and if he doesn't do that this year then on Black Monday he's going to have to be let go.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

Pace has built an elite defense. There was zero talent on either side of the ball when he arrived, sans Kyle Fuller. Did he miss on Mahomes? Fuck, I already said he did. And pump the breaks on sizing up Watsons yellow jacket, he is 10 years of similar play away from even being considered.


If you don't see that Nagy is shit at playcalling and protecting a young developing QB then I can't help you. Whatever potential MT has certainly hasn't been realized by Inspector Gadget.

Pace has built an elite defense that has 0 playoff wins BECAUSE there is very little talent on the offensive side of the ball. And that’s his fault. This is like bragging about having a nice car that’s broken every other day. Sure it’s nice for show but it never actually does anything because it’s always broken. I blame Pace more for not giving Nagy a talented roster on the offensive side of the ball than I do Nagy for not being able to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

 

[Bearin' Down]

Players compliment each other all the time, what do you expect them to say “oh same ol Mitch”

No! That's not the point, at all

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

Foles has thrown INT's to EJ, Michael Joseph, and J Johnson in the last few practices and he has been noted to be heavy on check downs. Haven't heard of any Trubisky INT's.

Of course this will be read and go way off track, but I was wondering if anyone has heard of a M Trubisky INT.

Two today.

“It’s 3-on-2, so you got a nickel, a corner and a safety versus two receivers and then you just work combo routes whether it’s different types of coverages,” Nagy said. “So it’s advantage of defense so if it didn’t look good on offense, it’s advantage defense the whole way.”

That should make it more palatable that both QBs threw picks in the drill — Michael Joseph intercepted Foles and Duke Shelley picked off Trubisky. Later in practice, Kevin Toliver tallied a takeaway on a Trubisky pass in 1-on-1’s.

As for the CCS gold standard of QB analysis, I think Foles still has more almost interceptions.

 

[iueyedoc]

Pace has built an elite defense that has 0 playoff wins BECAUSE there is very little talent on the offensive side of the ball. And that’s his fault. This is like bragging about having a nice car that’s broken every other day. Sure it’s nice for show but it never actually does anything because it’s always broken. I blame Pace more for not giving Nagy a talented roster on the offensive side of the ball than I do Nagy for not being able to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

5 RB runs in a game. 5

 

[Enasic]

Nagys been exposed. A good dude. A guy who can lead guys and get guys to buy in. Also, way too loosey goosey. Not someone who can adjust on the fly or stray from his preferred method. Poor play caller. Not a good game planner. Great at drawing up obscure plays that should almost never be run. Can’t adjust to, develop, or maximize his personnel. Obviously, if he didn’t inherit an all world defense, he would quite possible be looked at as the worst HC in the league. All that said, I’d love to have a beer with him. Seems like a great guy.

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

I beg to differ

You can beg to differ your head up your ass

hahaha

This is kinda fun - like a new meme

 

[bamainatlanta]

I never really got the sense that fans had high hopes for the QB competition outside of a minority who were either a) mitch truthers who thought competition would light a fire under his ass or some shit or b) willfully ignorant of Nick Foles' career outside of the SuperbOwl run.

Everyone I know thinks both these guys suck. ?‍

This. Foles is trash. Just like Trubisky.

 

[WestCoastBearsFan]

5 RB runs in a game. 5

I never said Nagy was good. I said Pace is dog shit.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Just so not everything is negative today...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1298325752195231744

This is his career in a nutshell..... flashes of good but no consistancy.