Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910327342313914746

Been saying this the entire time (OL in round 2)

I am thinking 4 tackles will go in the 1st: Campbell, Membou, Conerly, and Banks. No clue what the hell Biggs means. Every single scout has been 100% behind Membou being a starting tackle... big guys McShay, Jeremiah, and Brugler.

If you wait til 39, you're probably taking Grant or a Hail Mary that Simmons can fully recover.

 

[dennehy]

All depends on Allen. He’s not running the same defense

How is his use of an NT/1T different?

 

[Enasic]

I am thinking 4 tackles will go in the 1st: Campbell, Membou, Conerly, and Banks. No clue what the hell Biggs means. Every single scout has been 100% behind Membou being a starting tackle... big guys McShay, Jeremiah, and Brugler.

If you wait til 39, you're probably taking Grant or a Hail Mary that Simmons can fully recover.

**** no to Simmons.

At 39 you’re looking at Jackson or Jonah. Both should be plus caliber guards and also have played LT. While that won’t be their position in the NFL, they could play there in a pinch.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

How is his use of an NT/1T different?

I’m not an X’s and O’s guy but what I read is it is different than the Lovie/Flus style we’re used to

 

[DefNextYear]

**** no to Simmons.

At 39 you’re looking at Jackson or Jonah. Both should be plus caliber guards and also have played LT. While that won’t be their position in the NFL, they could play there in a pinch.

I agree with those two. I love both. I was just pointing out the tweet says the 2nd is the round to draft a tackle. I don't think that's true at all.

 

[Enasic]

I agree with those two. I love both. I was just pointing out the tweet says the 2nd is the round to draft a tackle. I don't think that's true at all.

Yeah I think it’d be more accurate if he said round 2 is the time to address the OL for the Bears.

 

[playthrough2001]

Fields is not worried about Jets potentially drafting a QB…

He has some serious walking around money now so I believe it!

QB Justin Fields not worried about Jets drafting his replacement ahead of first season in New York

 

[DefNextYear]

Interesting McShay comp. Again, considering the noise that the Bears may move up to take a DT... Allen drafted Bresee two years ago.

Derrick Harmon, IDL, Oregon​

Top 150 Rank: 22
Position Rank: 2
NFL Comp: Bryan Bresee, Saints
Harmon was a productive player at Michigan State and Oregon who possesses some elite traits that augur success in the NFL, including his arm length, hand span, and 4.95-second 40-yard dash, an impressive time for a 6-foot-4, 313-pound interior lineman. He still has room to improve, but I think he’s skilled enough to start immediately. At the least, he should be a rotation player as a rookie, particularly on passing downs where he’s much more advanced. He finished in the 99th percentile in PFF’s pass rush win rate last season.

I like Bryan Bresee as a comp for Harmon. Bresee is slightly taller and leaner, but they both carry their weight well and display smooth athleticism. Injuries hindered Bresee’s college career at Clemson, but he was still talented enough to warrant a first-round selection by the Saints in 2023. Bresee’s sack total jumped from 4.5 as a rookie to 7.5 in 2024. I could see Harmon with a similar early-career production arc.

 

[Xplosive]

Walter nolen isn't depth. He's an immediate impact pass rusher on the interior that would garner the majority of the snaps.

That's the point. You don't draft Nolen to only play 30-40% of the snaps.

Thus he takes snaps away from Dexter AND the other 3T they just signed to a large contract.

This is called poor management of resources.

 

[Xplosive]

What about a position where a new starter will be needed next year like LT? In a perfect world, the current LT should be the swing tackle. So what if it takes a half season for that transition. They win in the long run.

This team is not ready for the big dance in '25. They need to look to the future. Heck, a good GM is always looking to the future. That is sustainability vs one and done.

They just used a 3rd on Amegadjie as well, but regardless... I would definitely take another LT that can replace another one who is on his last year of his contract like Braxton.

I think this team needs to be trying to make the playoffs this season. Imo they have underachieved so I'm not lowering expectations. They should win a minimum of 9 games

 

[SugarWalls]

That's the point. You don't draft Nolen to only play hi. 30-40% of the snaps.

Thus he takes snaps away from Dexter AND the other 3T they just signed to a large contract.

This is called poor management of resources.

How does next year's DT class look? Where will the bears be drafting and will they have an opportunity to draft an impact DT next year?

So what if the Bears let go of Jarrett after this year, maybe he plays poorly, who knows, and then in Year 2 Nolen plays 70% of snaps. Is it then 'poor asset management' or is it getting ahead of a problem before there is one ??

 

[Xplosive]

Well you can forget about your boy Warren then

He'd improve the pass protection, run game, and be at least as good as Kmet in the receiving game.

Who would he be losing snaps to?? Zero chance Kmet would be getting the 87% of snaps he did last season.

 

[Xplosive]

How does next year's DT class look? Where will the bears be drafting and will they have an opportunity to draft an impact DT next year?

So what if the Bears let go of Jarrett after this year, maybe he plays poorly, who knows, and then in Year 2 Nolen plays 70% of snaps. Is it then 'poor asset management' or is it getting ahead of a problem before there is one ??

What if Walter Nolen blows out his knee in training camp?? See, it makes no sense to create worst case scenario situations like what if Jarrett is suddenly cut next season.

DT position is not that difficult to scout and you don't usually have to invest a top 10 pick to find one. If they suddenly need one in 2026 it won't be that difficult.

 

[SugarWalls]

What if Walter Nolen blows out his knee in training camp?? See, it makes no sense to create worst case scenario situations like what if Jarrett is suddenly cut next season.

DT position is not that difficult to scout and you don't usually have to invest a top 10 pick to find one. If they suddenly need one in 2026 it won't be that difficult.

Didn't you use the Eagles as an example? The team that just won the superbowl. They seem to draft trenches year after year after year even though they have good players there already....

How often are they drafting TE's top 10? RB's?

They swing at WR but its mostly trenches. They draft players and don't play them immediately so that they can step in for aging players.

If you disagree with that strategy that is fair, but just be mindful that is what the superbowl winning team did.

 

[bamainatlanta]

What if Walter Nolen blows out his knee in training camp?? See, it makes no sense to create worst case scenario situations like what if Jarrett is suddenly cut next season.

DT position is not that difficult to scout and you don't usually have to invest a top 10 pick to find one. If they suddenly need one in 2026 it won't be that difficult.

Is this serious or you just trying to be funny?

 

[Xplosive]

Name the 10 best DTs in the NFL then tell me how many were top 10 picks

@bamainatlanta

 

[SugarWalls]

Name the 10 best DTs in the NFL then tell me how many were top 10 picks

@bamainatlanta

This is seriously your logic? List the top 10 best TE's in the NFL and tell me how many were top 10 picks.

List the 10 best RB's in the league and how many were top 10 picks?

 

[SugarWalls]

@Xplosive

Chris Jones - outlier drafted 37th overall
Derrick Brown 7th overall pick
quinnen Williams 3rd overall pick
Dexter Lawrence 17th overall
Deforest Buckner 7th overall pick
Simmons 19th overall
Christian Wilkins 13th overall
Leonard Williams 6th overall
Vita Vea 12th overall
Ed Oliver 9th overall


You get the point? Do you NEED a top 10 draft pick on these guys? No, not necessarily. However, when you go down the entire list of the top guys it seems like 90% or more were all first round picks.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

That's the point. You don't draft Nolen to only play 30-40% of the snaps.

Thus he takes snaps away from Dexter AND the other 3T they just signed to a large contract.

This is called poor management of resources.

You can't possibly be this wrong. The Eagles had just drafted Jordan Davis and had an elder statesman in Fletcher Cox and drafted Jalen Carter to play around 30 to 40 percent of the snaps behind those two. You draft high level talent regardless of your depth. Especially with Grady Jarrett being long in the tooth. You want a player like Nolen to learn behind a long established pro who is also a known leader.

 

[DefNextYear]

How is his use of an NT/1T different?

Not knowing a lot about the Saints, they lined up in the A gap about half the time the Bears did with the NT/1T. I checked 2023 too considering Billings injury. Based on that, my guess is Billings' snaps will drop some. The Saints generally seemed to favor using two 3Ts unless it was a clearer running situation.

I went back to 2021 and not one of the top 3 DTs in snaps even exceeded 300 lbs.