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“Developing”
“Drafted a few years ago”

The life cycle of NFL head coaches is 4-5 years in most cases. How much time do you think they will allow for a player to develop?

Most players take 3-4 years in every sport.

But if you think otherwise we like stupid

You think dexter lawrence was the player he was after a year?

Perfect example is Jamo on the lions. Most bears fans thought he was a bust, me included. Now he looks like a legit NFL weapon after year 3.
 

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Racer, your Cade McNown evaluation bars you from any further QB discussion.

I was on a flight with him and Rex Tucker one time and he looked like a high school wrestler. He played QB like a high school wrestler too.
I've been mostly spot-on since the Cade debacle tho, but your point is fair, can't really dispute.
 

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I'ma heading your way in a month (actually, Stanley), have not spent any time in Idaho, gonna hit the trails in Sawtooth with my dogs and my fly-rod, you spend much time there?
I just finished building a cabin that direction. Beautiful country.
Watch out for those spring storms, they can be quick and dangerous.
If you get a chance cruise over to Granjean. It’s a cool little place. Or if you have time definitely get up to Atlanta. Lots of cool history, nice hot springs, and gorgeous. I put my mom’s ashes at the base of the greylocks.
 

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So... take your word for it that Ben Johnson said Tyler Warren is redundant to Cole Kmet and he said that better options will be available at #39....


Checks out.

I'm sure it's buried somewhere amongst the hours of Hoge and Johns podcasts.
It's literally the most recent Hoge and Jahns podcast. Nobody has said, suggested, hinted, or implied that Ben Johnson said that Tyler Warren is redundant to Cole Kmet. What myself and @SugarWalls were discussing is what Eric Edholm of NFL.com said about the Bears drafting Tyler Warren.

Are you ok? You don't typically not follow along with the thread like you're doing here.
 

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From Austin Mock at The Athletic:

“Ashton Jeanty Top 10 Pick?

Picking Ashton Jeanty in top 10 would be a mistake, learning wrong lesson from Saquon Barkley

The perceived value of the running back position appears to be on the rise, largely buoyed, I suspect, by Saquon Barkley’s sensational 2024 season in which he rushed for 2,005 yards and helped deliver the Philadelphia Eagles a Super Bowl title. While Barkley is undeniably great — my projection model sees him as the best back in the league — he is not the reason the Eagles won a Super Bowl. He helped, of course, but Philadelphia already had constructed the best roster in the league before acquiring him.

Barkley was the cherry on top.

Before signing Barkley in free agency, the Eagles had done what most smart organizations do: They targeted premium positions (QB, WR, OT, DL, CB) with their premium draft picks. In fact, since 2015, every first-round pick the Eagles made was spent on a player who plays a premium position.

Their past five first-round picks were: CB Quinyon Mitchell, DT Jalen Carter, Edge Nolan Smith, DT Jordan Davis and WR DeVonta Smith, all of whom played pivotal roles on their Super Bowl run this past season.

It’s also worth noting that in 2023, the Eagles had a chance to draft running back Jahmyr Gibbs in the top 10 before the Detroit Lions ended up selecting the star running back at No. 12. Philly instead opted to trade up to No. 9 for Carter, who has blossomed into an interior game-wrecker on defense.

The lesson to be learned here is that constructing a foundation with first-round talents who play premium positions remains the ideal way to build. Unfortunately, because Barkley played so well last season and helped push the Eagles over the top, I fear teams are going to fall into a trap by trying to take a shortcut to an elite running game and invest too much capital into a running back as they hope to “replicate” the Eagles’ success.”

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The above applies especially in this draft because of the plethora of RB talent.

That’s why they need to take the best OT, Edge, DT, or CB.

Draft Kelvin Banks Jr!
Draft Will Campbell or Membou!
Draft Will Johnson!
Draft Walter Nolen!
Draft Kenneth Grant!
Draft Mike Green, James Pearce, Mykel Williams or Jalon Walker!
Draft Graham if he drops!

Don’t draft Jeanty or Warren!

Oh, and please don’t draft Shemar Stewart just because!
 
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Lots of information in here on offensive lineman the Bears have spoken with that will land all over the draft and some potential UDFAs…

 

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Gruden talks about Jeanty and drafting him at 5:22.

 

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I'm really thinking this as the draft gets closer


Pick 10: Jalon Walker, Mike Green, James Pearce

Pick 39: Josh Conerly, Donovan Jackson, Xavier Watts

Pick 41: Trevyon Henderson, Emeka Egbuka
 

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