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playthrough2001 said:
Johnson loves to run the ball. Banks Jr. is an excellent run blocker. He’s a solid pass protector too and should only get better being coached by Roushar.
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Idk that I'd say he's an excellent run blocker. He reminds me of Braxton in the run game in that he's really good out in space on screens and outside zone runs. But interior runs he doesn't displace defenders. He does a good enough job walling them off, but I'm a bit surprised he doesn't move guys better because he clearly has a solid base.

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I love how the amateur scouting community is so bad that they completely missed on this guy up until a little over a month ago.

He wasn't even on the radar in most places and now he's a Top-15 player.
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He's not a top 15 player. Where do you come up with this shit?
 
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DefNextYear said:
That’s not really true. The offseason is the time where people are dissecting the film. How can people make conclusive decisions during the season without complete info? At minimum, people need time to break down everyone’s tape and that’s a tall ask during the season.
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It's literally what happens every year.
 
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bufordht said:
It's literally what happens every year.
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What happens every year? He said "until people stopped watching the game film and started nit picking measurements". People have been watching film all offseason. To suggest people haven't still been "watching the game film" is crazy. Poles and Ben talked about the film sessions they've been having with the scouts. Are we thinking Ben and Poles were breaking down college players in October? The media people are also all talking about how they just finished breaking down film and then put out videos. As an example, Chris Simms has transparently said he has no time during the NFL season to watch college cause he's focused on the NFL... so he watches film now and makes his rankings now.

I get that scouts are watching guys all the time, but they aren't making decisions... a lot of NFL people are focused on the NFL during the year and then breaking down the college players in the offseason. Give me a single guy that locked in Banks as a higher rank during the college season than they do today and moved him down cause of measurements.
 
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Xplosive said:
Quick question for the room...

Why is no one talking about the two most interesting tidbits I found out about recently in the "Beast"?

#1 Will Cambell has had a ton of flags over the last couple of seasons: 14 flags with 7 false starts.

#2 Ashton Jeanty has had a lot of fumbles: 5 last season (one called back for penalty) and 9 in the last two seasons.

We probably won't hear about them at all until right after the Bears draft one of them I'm sure.
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I've heard people talk about the Jeanty fumbles for a while now but not sure i've heard anyone talk about the flags and false starts for Campbell.
 
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DanielCCSBears said:
I love how the amateur scouting community is so bad that they completely missed on this guy up until a little over a month ago.

He wasn't even on the radar in most places and now he's a Top-15 player.
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It clearly says "Borderline Top 50 player" not top 15.
 
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DefNextYear said:
What happens every year? He said "until people stopped watching the game film and started nit picking measurements". People have been watching film all offseason. To suggest people haven't still been "watching the game film" is crazy. Poles and Ben talked about the film sessions they've been having with the scouts. Are we thinking Ben and Poles were breaking down college players in October? The media people are also all talking about how they just finished breaking down film and then put out videos. As an example, Chris Simms has transparently said he has no time during the NFL season to watch college cause he's focused on the NFL... so he watches film now and makes his rankings now.

I get that scouts are watching guys all the time, but they aren't making decisions... a lot of NFL people are focused on the NFL during the year and then breaking down the college players in the offseason. Give me a single guy that locked in Banks as a higher rank during the college season than they do today and moved him down cause of measurements.
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I'm agreeing with your post. Every year there's guys that fall or rise in the off-season because people start deep diving into film.
 
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playthrough2001 said:
That is absolutely who I want that will reasonably be there at 10.

I’ve been correct about (and agreed with) the last three number one picks although Caleb was a given.
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He ran slow like a guard, that doesn't bother you? That's worrisome for a LT imo
 
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dabears70 said:
It clearly says "Borderline Top 50 player" not top 15.
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I love how daniel cant read.

He's also someone thats been discussed on here a decent bit when we do talk safeties. The bears met with him at the combine i believe(or was it a top 30 visit?). Either way this is the safety the bears met with and is in play at #72. He's always been a low 2nd/high 3rd level prospect who could go higher.
 
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