Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[bufordht]

That’s not really true. The offseason is the time where people are dissecting the film. How can people make conclusive decisions during the season without complete info? At minimum, people need time to break down everyone’s tape and that’s a tall ask during the season.

It's literally what happens every year.

 

[DefNextYear]

It's literally what happens every year.

What happens every year? He said "until people stopped watching the game film and started nit picking measurements". People have been watching film all offseason. To suggest people haven't still been "watching the game film" is crazy. Poles and Ben talked about the film sessions they've been having with the scouts. Are we thinking Ben and Poles were breaking down college players in October? The media people are also all talking about how they just finished breaking down film and then put out videos. As an example, Chris Simms has transparently said he has no time during the NFL season to watch college cause he's focused on the NFL... so he watches film now and makes his rankings now.

I get that scouts are watching guys all the time, but they aren't making decisions... a lot of NFL people are focused on the NFL during the year and then breaking down the college players in the offseason. Give me a single guy that locked in Banks as a higher rank during the college season than they do today and moved him down cause of measurements.

 

[dabears70]

Quick question for the room...

Why is no one talking about the two most interesting tidbits I found out about recently in the "Beast"?

#1 Will Cambell has had a ton of flags over the last couple of seasons: 14 flags with 7 false starts.

#2 Ashton Jeanty has had a lot of fumbles: 5 last season (one called back for penalty) and 9 in the last two seasons.

We probably won't hear about them at all until right after the Bears draft one of them I'm sure.

I've heard people talk about the Jeanty fumbles for a while now but not sure i've heard anyone talk about the flags and false starts for Campbell.

 

[dabears70]

I love how the amateur scouting community is so bad that they completely missed on this guy up until a little over a month ago.

He wasn't even on the radar in most places and now he's a Top-15 player.

It clearly says "Borderline Top 50 player" not top 15.

 

[dabears70]

I agree with this for sure.

Would this be with excluding Josh Simmons from the list or including him?

 

[bufordht]

What happens every year? He said "until people stopped watching the game film and started nit picking measurements". People have been watching film all offseason. To suggest people haven't still been "watching the game film" is crazy. Poles and Ben talked about the film sessions they've been having with the scouts. Are we thinking Ben and Poles were breaking down college players in October? The media people are also all talking about how they just finished breaking down film and then put out videos. As an example, Chris Simms has transparently said he has no time during the NFL season to watch college cause he's focused on the NFL... so he watches film now and makes his rankings now.

I get that scouts are watching guys all the time, but they aren't making decisions... a lot of NFL people are focused on the NFL during the year and then breaking down the college players in the offseason. Give me a single guy that locked in Banks as a higher rank during the college season than they do today and moved him down cause of measurements.

I'm agreeing with your post. Every year there's guys that fall or rise in the off-season because people start deep diving into film.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1911992330019622934

 

[Xplosive]

That is absolutely who I want that will reasonably be there at 10.

I’ve been correct about (and agreed with) the last three number one picks although Caleb was a given.

He ran slow like a guard, that doesn't bother you? That's worrisome for a LT imo

 

[Nelly]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1911992330019622934

Between Harmon, Nolen, Banks, name-your-pick-of-a-guy-people-think-isn't-a-#10-overall-pick-guy, as long as we get a guy who can play, I don't care. That's just how this draft is. If you're going to get all bent out of shape about how "zomg we took him 5 slots too high" then you're not going to be happy with anyone we draft.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

He ran slow like a guard, that doesn't bother you? That's worrisome for a LT imo

It would be if you hadn't watched video of him getting out in space quickly and mauling dbs and lbs in the run/screen game against really good competition

 

[msadows]

It clearly says "Borderline Top 50 player" not top 15.

I love how daniel cant read.

He's also someone thats been discussed on here a decent bit when we do talk safeties. The bears met with him at the combine i believe(or was it a top 30 visit?). Either way this is the safety the bears met with and is in play at #72. He's always been a low 2nd/high 3rd level prospect who could go higher.

 

[BearDown104]

He ran slow like a guard, that doesn't bother you? That's worrisome for a LT imo

He ran what slow? The 40? Don't f'ing care if my lineman can run 40 yards fast.

 

[DefNextYear]

He ran slow like a guard, that doesn't bother you? That's worrisome for a LT imo

While I don't disagree that I'd like more speed, more importantly, a better 10 yard split... Ben Johnson's previous LT was not fast.

Taylor Decker - MockDraftable

 

[DefNextYear]

Between Harmon, Nolen, Banks, name-your-pick-of-a-guy-people-think-isn't-a-#10-overall-pick-guy, as long as we get a guy who can play, I don't care. That's just how this draft is. If you're going to get all bent out of shape about how "zomg we took him 5 slots too high" then you're not going to be happy with anyone we draft.

Yea, and I think the names you have there are essentially what it's coming to. I think the Bears are going OT or DT at 10.

And, I think their hope is they probably land one of each somehow... so the list of OTs are maybe Conerly, Banks, Ersery and the DTs are Nolen and Harmon. Donovan Jackson may be an option too (more of a great guard option). They spoke to him at the combine and saw him at the pro day. But there was a rumor that the Bears may want to move into the first for a DT. I think the reason they need to trade back into the first is cause they'll take the OT at 10, leaving them to try to get Nolen or Harmon at the end of the 1st.

 

[dabears70]

I love how daniel cant read.

He's also someone thats been discussed on here a decent bit when we do talk safeties. The bears met with him at the combine i believe(or was it a top 30 visit?). Either way this is the safety the bears met with and is in play at #72. He's always been a low 2nd/high 3rd level prospect who could go higher.

I really like him if he's there at #72. He's got great instincts as you can see in that video.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

He ran slow like a guard, that doesn't bother you? That's worrisome for a LT imo

I have no idea what he ran. I couldn’t care less how long it takes any OL to run 40 yards in underwear.
I worry about him having slow feet sometimes but his 40 time is nowhere near a worry imo

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Yea, and I think the names you have there are essentially what it's coming to. I think the Bears are going OT or DT at 10.

And, I think their hope is they probably land one of each somehow... so the list of OTs are maybe Conerly, Banks, Ersery and the DTs are Nolen and Harmon. Donovan Jackson may be an option too (more of a great guard option). They spoke to him at the combine and saw him at the pro day. But there was a rumor that the Bears may want to move into the first for a DT. I think the reason they need to trade back into the first is cause they'll take the OT at 10, leaving them to try to get Nolen or Harmon at the end of the 1st.

I think you are correct on the oline. I’m split between Banks and Conerly with Ersery right in the mix. DT all I would do is add Grant to the mix. I know he’s a different style but man is he quick/fast for his size

 

[DefNextYear]

I think you are correct on the oline. I’m split between Banks and Conerly with Ersery right in the mix. DT all I would do is add Grant to the mix. I know he’s a different style but man is he quick/fast for his size

I don't care which they pick... I'll just hope they chose right. Ersery would probably be too much of a reach at 10 though cause he's the biggest project of the 3. He's maybe the highest upside though.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

It clearly says "Borderline Top 50 player" not top 15.

Yes, and I was speaking about the community not one person. This is why I used the phrase community. Because there are a lot of people saying he might be the first OT off the board.


Edit here's proof of that

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Yes, and I was speaking about the community not one person. This is why I used the phrase community. Because there are a lot of people saying he might be the first OT off the board.

Well the post was about a safety projected in the 3rd round, so nobody knows wtf you are talking about