Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[knoxville7]

Exactly. People are overlooking that having more tackles than you need would be a good problem to have. I'm not saying you just hoard all the tackles in the league, but Braxton and Kiran both carry big question marks right now. The lesser evil is to get a new one, that you're more confident will become a long term starter and then you have expendable depth that can be traded or at least become good comp picks. What the Bears can't have is two terrible LTs leaving a gaping hole on a young QB's blindside.

100000%

Caleb is the investment right now. Going above and beyond to make sure your investment is protected is prudent

Take Banks at 10 and sleep well knowing you have plenty of options and depth protecting that investment

 

[bamainatlanta]

Well the only issue here is that Amegadjie is going to be lined up as the starting LT until Braxton is fully back from his injury. Hopefully Braxton will be ready by week 1 but as it currently stands Amegadjie is starting LT

Not good.

 

[Katesboobsrgr8]

Exactly. People are overlooking that having more tackles than you need would be a good problem to have. I'm not saying you just hoard all the tackles in the league, but Braxton and Kiran both carry big question marks right now. The lesser evil is to get a new one, that you're more confident will become a long term starter and then you have expendable depth that can be traded or at least become good comp picks. What the Bears can't have is two terrible LTs leaving a gaping hole on a young QB's blindside.

I agree. Unfortunately there isn't a clear answer in this draft, just more question marks. If there were obvious answers we wouldn't have the opportunity to draft them at 10 anyway. I suppose the probability on hitting on one of three question marks is higher than one of two, but it also comes with the risk of a wasted first round pick.

That said, if our scouting believes Banks is the guy I will defer to their judgement. Poles runs these as a collaborative effort, and by all accounts we have some damn good football minds on our team. If they collectively agree that Banks is the top available player to sustain improvement, then I will reserve judgement until he shows what he is in the league.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912530498359795947

Interesting report since a lot of people believe Will Campbell to the Patriots is also a part of the discussion.

 

[SugarWalls]

Patriots need a lot of help on offense but I could see them taking defense if OL is not BPA for them.

I could see them taking Mason Graham at 4, or obviously picking 1 of abdul Carter or Travis hunter if the giants or browns do something silly or trade out for some team to take a QB.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

That’s correct. Or they could be grooming him to be the swing tackle

Either way the Bears can't go into training camp with a rehabbing starting LT and Amegadjie as their two primary left tackles.

If Jones has a set back or if Jones' timeline for recovery changes at all the Bears are fucked.

But yeah Jeanty or Warren make much more sense than solidifying the most important position on the offensive line.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912394258331430958

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912475000910627283

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912281169615601705

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912256171542737240

Based on what I've gathered from Allen, he tends to prefer DTs around 300 lbs than the huge guys. Norman-Lott was amazing as a pass rusher. That said, he's one of the 30 visits the Bears have had, so my guess is there's serious interest in him. I find it interesting that there's a Grady comparison, cause it makes it an even nicer fit to learn directly from him. Given he had a pretty subpar workout, I almost wonder if the Bears could be patient and hope he lasts to the 3rd, or trade up from the 3rd if he's there in the late 2nd.

 

[Enasic]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912475000910627283

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912281169615601705

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912256171542737240

Based on what I've gathered from Allen, he tends to prefer DTs around 300 lbs than the huge guys. Norman-Lott was amazing as a pass rusher. That said, he's one of the 30 visits the Bears have had, so my guess is there's serious interest in him. I find it interesting that there's a Grady comparison, cause it makes it an even nicer fit to learn directly from him. Given he had a pretty subpar workout, I almost wonder if the Bears could be patient and hope he lasts to the 3rd, or trade up from the 3rd if he's there in the late 2nd.

I’d be shocked if he lasts until the 3rd. Think he’s going early round 2 and if you told me he’d sneak into the back half of the 1st, I wouldn’t be surprised

 

[Myk]

Please explain how selecting a defensive player that didn’t come in for a top 30 visit is “drafting blind.” I guess scouting at actual games, the East West Shrine, the Senior Bowl, attending the combine, and watching tape doesn’t count.

When Poles and Cunningham jump on a plane and attend a few college games in a day, are they closing their eyes once the ball is kicked off?

You want to know things like how their personality is, how they get along with people and how open they are to signing a contract with your team.
You don't want to bring in a headcase just because you liked staring at their ass in spandex.
It's a marriage not a one night fling.

I'm not saying it's a smokescreen... I definitely think they like him, but...

That wasn't you who I was replying to at all.

It was someone else who came up with a conspiracy theory to rationalize away what they don't want to happen.

I've really stopped caring. The Bears are going to do what the Bears do. It's one of those things I can't change. I sit back and watch.
We brought in Jeanty, he's on the table. He's also not falling to us.
That defensive player we brought in is on the table if all the offense we brought in is gone. The oline we brought in may be to not show his cards but more likely it's a ranking of players he wants with the #10.
If everyone we brought in is gone Poles is a moron for not bringing in enough options.

 

[bamainatlanta]

@knoxville7 thoughts on Lott??

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I'm just responding to the article. Only 8 days before all this is largely answered.

Why? Something happening in 8 days?

 

[Myk]

A Letter to NFL GMs | By Ashton Jeanty

I truly believe I was born to do this.

www.theplayerstribune.com

Holy crap! That was way TL;DR
I kind of don't like him after seeing how long that was.

I'm still not sold he's the next great one but I don't see the sense in writing that long winded crap.

 

[Leon Sandcastle]

Why? Something happening in 8 days?

Preseason I think

 

[bamainatlanta]

Preseason I think

No. It’s the EPA Tutorial Class.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912475000910627283

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912281169615601705

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912256171542737240

Based on what I've gathered from Allen, he tends to prefer DTs around 300 lbs than the huge guys. Norman-Lott was amazing as a pass rusher. That said, he's one of the 30 visits the Bears have had, so my guess is there's serious interest in him. I find it interesting that there's a Grady comparison, cause it makes it an even nicer fit to learn directly from him. Given he had a pretty subpar workout, I almost wonder if the Bears could be patient and hope he lasts to the 3rd, or trade up from the 3rd if he's there in the late 2nd.

Lott has been a good player since he came out of high school. Dude showed up early at ASU as a player and then got the money to go to Tennessee. I think he'll be a steady player in the NFL 10 years much like Lawrence Guy was. He may never be a game wrecker but he'll be an average NFL player for many years.
My only concern with him is he has years of injury issues that kept him from fully realizing his potential.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Why? Something happening in 8 days?

Yeah @nc0gnet0 fully transitions to a fish so it won't be illegal for him anymore.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

No. It’s the EPA Tutorial Class.

Are you teaching it?

 

[bears51/40]

I'll add that I'm not trying to box-in what Allen may do. I only looked through 5 years of the Saints D. I'm just hunting the snap counts and don't know the context of the roster construction or reason for why they had who they had, but was just something I noticed. Their top two DTs in snaps were always 315 or less. Also, not relevant to this discussion, but he never had any of these guys primarily lining up in the A gap, even the bigger guys.

If you're curious, here's the list since 2020 of the top 3 in snaps (in order of most snaps to lowest):
2020: Onyemata (300 lbs), Rankins (305 lbs), Brown (320 lbs)
2021: Tuttle (300 lbs), Onyemata (300 lbs), Ringo (300 lbs)
2022: Onyemata (300 lbs), Tuttle (300 lbs), Street (287 lbs)
2023: Shepard (315 lbs), Bresee (305 lbs), Saunders (324 lbs)
2024: Bresee (305 lbs), Shepard (315 lbs), Saunders (324 lbs)

This doesn't mean there's no way they take Grant though. I'm just guessing based on the above. The reason he may like Grant is Grant did primarily line up in the B gap at Michigan, so it may make sense.

I believe only DT in top 30 visits was Norman-Lott 6-3 315, if that means anything.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Preseason I think

Can’t wait for the Bears to win that too!