Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[--CyBear--]

Are you talking about the same Bates who missed all of last year because he's riddled with arthritis? I am not sure Bates is solid. Buffalo revamped their OL last year and chose not to keep him even though he was cheap. They obviously knew something Poles did not.

Did you miss the qualifier (...if he can play)?

He said he's good after the stem cell treatment but we all have doubts. Point was that I don't think the Bear use a pick in the 1st 2 days at G. We don't know what Bates or the Bear do and that would change a perspective. We're not talking about him being the starter he was projected to be when traded. He missed the end of the season with a concussion, not the shoulder and even though it was an real issue last year, it's reportedly better. We'll see.

Murray had an 82 PFF grade before tearing his pec. Small but VG sample and he was planting guys.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912851842574188774

Pretty sure Jordan Reid reported they aren't running and are just doing positional drills

 

[didshereallysaythat]

They need to just take the best overall player at 10. You never know what will develop into a need in a few years. Ideally, it will be at a premier position.

 

[msadows]

Did you miss the qualifier (...if he can play)?

He said he's good after the stem cell treatment but we all have doubts. Point was that I don't think the Bear use a pick in the 1st 2 days at G. We don't know what Bates or the Bear do and that would change a perspective. We're not talking about him being the starter he was projected to be when traded. He missed the end of the season with a concussion, not the shoulder and even though it was an real issue last year, it's reportedly better. We'll see.

Murray had an 82 PFF grade before tearing his pec. Small but VG sample and he was planting guys.

Lol PFF grade.

 

[playthrough2001]

More than likely, but guys like remy want out left tackle to suck for a year so we get the growing paints out of a #10 pick. lol

Absolute bonkers thought but hey, I'm here for the stupidity. I'm mostly okay with taking a tackle at #10 because braxton is going to make crazy money if he plays the same as he has the last few years.

Personally my ideal scenario is to take a DE or jalon walker at #10, then trade up w/ 41 or 39 and pair it with 72 to get into the mid 20's and draft simmons. Let simmons redshirt a bit behind braxton and start in 2026.

Your ideal scenario is drafting another pre-injured guy? Nice!

 

[msadows]

Your ideal scenario is drafting another pre-injured guy? Nice!

He's likely the most talented OL in the draft and can be better than braxton.

Taking a tackle at #10 for him to basically be average(braxton) is the worst case scenario. If all it takes is 72 then its worth the risk for me.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Pretty sure Jordan Reid reported they aren't running and are just doing positional drills

Yep. You’re correct. Just saw it. Craig wrong once again.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I wouldn't trade any of their top 4 picks this year

 

[Nelly]

wouldn't mind the top 3, though I'd rather have Judkins. Probably take a DL at 72.

If Johnson thinks that Warren is the ultimate chess piece for his offense and among the best talents on the board then I wouldn't argue with it. I do think Kmet would basically be relegated to nothing which is a terrible use of assets but oh well, as long as Warren turns out to be a stud.

It doesn't look like Henderson will last til #39 now, especially when you consider that teams will know we're eyeing a RB and will have to trade up above us to get him.

 

[--CyBear--]

I wouldn't trade any of their top 4 picks this year

I understand the sentiment but don't think GMs go into a draft with that sort of absolute ideology. You never know what falls or targeted position may thin out early.

 

[DefNextYear]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912851842574188774

Unfortunately...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1912602412386246877

If true, I don't even see the point of working out, especially Mykel.

 

[--CyBear--]

If Johnson thinks that Warren is the ultimate chess piece for his offense and among the best talents on the board then I wouldn't argue with it. I do think Kmet would basically be relegated to nothing which is a terrible use of assets but oh well, as long as Warren turns out to be a stud.

It doesn't look like Henderson will last til #39 now, especially when you consider that teams will know we're eyeing a RB and will have to trade up above us to get him.

It's why I think they may prefer Coleston on a small move down. He can be your slot on passing downs and allow Kmet his normal TE duties including routes when viable. It also allows the O to use the same personnel regardless of down and distance. Would be fun to see D's guessing on every down with CW under center.

 

[Nelly]

It's why I think they may prefer Coleston on a small move down. He can be your slot on passing downs and allow Kmet his normal TE duties including routes when viable. It also allows the O to use the same personnel regardless of down and distance. Would be fun to see D's guessing on every down with CW under center.

I hope they're not eyeing TE as a position in general at #10. Kmet has been underutilized and was signed to a big extension. I know Johnson likes to use 2 tight ends but that's why you picked up Smythe: as a blocker. Brock Wright got 16 targets last year in BJ's offense and that's fine for Smythe.

Grabbing a guy late to add to the room is cool but taking a TE high is unnecessary, unless you think he's a unicorn of sorts. That's what Warren might figure to be for Johnson.

 

[DefNextYear]

I could live with any of those players except Simmons. No more pre-injured guys early!

I'm really curious to see where Simmons goes. I feel the media scouts are totally missing how serious that injury is and I want to see how teams view it. It wouldn't shock me to see him sliding and you get to hear the talking heads bring up his "off the field issues" as if he isn't recovering from one of the more devastating injuries a football player can have. I guess we'll see though.

 

[DefNextYear]

Agreed. This is one of the reasons I want to start now.

Yup, agreed also. What we don't want is to find out Kiran and Braxton aren't the guys and then draft a guy a year or two from now who has a mediocre rookie season. Now is the time to not be great and develop guys. The Bears aren't contenders... so take these pieces before the games matter as much and we no longer have time to wait on development.

 

[Enasic]

What about 2,3,4 years from now? Who will be better? Does that figure into your decision making? That’s what I care about. I want long term solutions

If Braxton starts next year while they develop someone I am fine with it. Competition also makes everyone better and the Bears never have legit competition

If I’m waiting 2-4 years for someone to maybe beat out Braxton Jones with pick 10, it’s probably the wrong pick.

I also don’t think Jones has peaked and can continue to get even better. He’s improved pretty much every year. Again, if there was a Joe Alt available I would be singing a different tune, but there’s not even close to that . It’s a weak OT class with some decent LT prospects being over hyped.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I hope they're not eyeing TE as a position in general at #10. Kmet has been underutilized and was signed to a big extension. I know Johnson likes to use 2 tight ends but that's why you picked up Smythe: as a blocker. Brock Wright got 16 targets last year in BJ's offense and that's fine for Smythe.

Grabbing a guy late to add to the room is cool but taking a TE high is unnecessary, unless you think he's a unicorn of sorts. That's what Warren might figure to be for Johnson.

I actual think Loveland is more versatile for what he can do for an every down offense. He can block better than Warren so he can be lined up inside with kmet for running or play action. He's also quicker and a better route runner so he can create mismatches out of the slot as well.

Sure Warren can run wildcat a time or two a game but honestly I'd rather run that with an explosive athlete that stresses a defense and has a chance a breaking a big play instead of a 4.7 TE who might get you 10-15 yards on a good play.

Overall, I strongly prefer not to take a TE, but I think Loveland is the better chess piece.

 

[maxhatter]

I’d be completely ok with that plan also.

What if Henderson doesn't make it to pick 39?

 

[playthrough2001]

He's likely the most talented OL in the draft and can be better than braxton.

Taking a tackle at #10 for him to basically be average(braxton) is the worst case scenario. If all it takes is 72 then its worth the risk for me.

Tell who was the best edge rusher he played in college? Most of his starts were at San Diego State. He was injured in the game against the only quality team he faced in the Big Ten. OSU’s first three games were complete cupcakes too.

 

[HearshotKDS]

I wouldn't trade any of their top 4 picks this year

I feel the opposite about #10 - I feel there are about a dozen players I would be OK with at this pick with none being "run to the podium" good value at the spot. If I was Poles and got a trade up offer anywhere between 11-about 21 I would be jumping all over that and let the market decide which one of those dozen players I would have taken at 10 ends up my pick at 11-21.

Big IF though i'm not actually an NFL GM and have no idea how much interest there is from other teams to move up - it does unfortunately take 2 to tango.