Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[DefNextYear]

Finally someone else who see's it the way I do. I dont care if we end up with 3 total picksin this draft. It is extremely thin in blue chip talent and Starters in general.

I don't believe that. Many people are calling it a "starters draft". So yea, less blue chip, but a lot of starters. The Bears top 3 picks should all be starters by the ends of their contracts, or Poles made a mistake. I think there's a good shot 72 is a starter too if they target the less premium positions, RB, G, or S.

 

[playthrough2001]

Finally someone else who see's it the way I do. I dont care if we end up with 3 total picksin this draft. It is extremely thin in blue chip talent and Starters in general.

I knew Ryan Pace was still hanging around here. What’s it like living in Atlanta?

 

[hebs]

I don't believe that. Many people are calling it a "starters draft". So yea, less blue chip, but a lot of starters. The Bears top 3 picks should all be starters by the ends of their contracts, or Poles made a mistake. I think there's a good shot 72 is a starter too if they target the less premium positions, RB, G, or S.

More like their top 4 picks this year. 3rd rounders should definitely turn into starters before their 4 years are up.

 

[DefNextYear]

More like their top 4 picks this year. 3rd rounders should definitely turn into starters before their 4 years are up.

I did address pick 72 there, but I don't agree that 3rds "should definitely". I'd be surprised if half of the 3rd rounders drafted will be starters.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

I did address pick 72 there, but I don't agree that 3rds "should definitely". I'd be surprised if half of the 3rd rounders drafted will be starters.

This draft is significantly deeper than last year's was with actual players who should contribute whether in a starting or rotational role. It just doesn't have near the level of top end talent last years draft did. The idea that this draft is thin just isn't really accurate

 

[dabears70]

Finally someone else who see's it the way I do. I dont care if we end up with 3 total picksin this draft. It is extremely thin in blue chip talent and Starters in general.

Yeah i see it as very little blue chip talent but a ton of starting level players throughout the 2nd round.

 

[DefNextYear]

This draft is significantly deeper than last year's was with actual players who should contribute whether in a starting or rotational role. It just doesn't have near the level of top end talent last years draft did. The idea that this draft is thin just isn't really accurate

Yea, I agree. I think the Bears can find a great player at 72. I just think fans set the bar too high with 3rd round picks as if teams regularly turn those into starters. A starter found in the 3rd is beating the odds. It's REALLY beating the odds if you nail a premium position like QB, OT, DT, edge. These kind of unreal expectations are what make fans flip out when they look at their GM's performance as poor even though they set unreal expectations to begin with.

 

[playthrough2001]

ya all these guys in PFF or PFSN draft simulators who show in 2nd rd will go in 1st...includes : Kenneth Grant, Tyleik Williams, Omerion Hampton, Josh Conerly Jr, Xavier Watts

Or you take Conerly at 10 and draft two good football players at 39 and 41…

I don’t think any of us can get hung up on perceived value or “reaches” in this draft.

 

[BearDown104]

Black Rainbow

Not sure the ban bet, but thank you! He’s miserable.

 

[playthrough2001]

Not sure the ban bet, but thank you! He’s miserable.

He’s miserable for sure but he’s nowhere near as insufferable as the two Lion trolls.

 

[EDPeezy]

I don't believe that. Many people are calling it a "starters draft". So yea, less blue chip, but a lot of starters. The Bears top 3 picks should all be starters by the ends of their contracts, or Poles made a mistake. I think there's a good shot 72 is a starter too if they target the less premium positions, RB, G, or S.

“Starters draft” sounds like some made up bullshit because they don’t want to just directly say the draft isn’t very good.

What draft are most 2nd rounders not considered starters?

Thats what they keep saying. Not a lot of blue chip talent, but deep with starters. “You can get a solid starter in the 2nd round.” Isn’t that every draft though?

 

[Luke]

I did address pick 72 there, but I don't agree that 3rds "should definitely". I'd be surprised if half of the 3rd rounders drafted will be starters.

maybe 30% and Poles is at a whopping 0%

 

[modo]

There’s a ton of value in round 2. They can get good football players at 39 and 41.

If they have to give up a 2 to get an actual blue chip player vs 3 mid level guys, I would understand.

I'd rather have an actual first level talent plus a second round talent vs 3 second round talents.

They may risk drafting someone at 10 that grades out at a second round.

 

[playthrough2001]

Miller says if Jeanty is there at ten, draft him. Otherwise, he says stick and pick Kelvin Banks Jr. his number one OT. He likes Loveland too. (Yikes!).

 

[Discus fish salesman]

If they have to give up a 2 to get an actual blue chip player vs 3 mid level guys, I would understand.

I'd rather have an actual first level talent plus a second round talent vs 3 second round talents.

They may risk drafting someone at 10 that grades out at a second round.

Except the only blue chip players worth going up for are Carter or hunter and those teams likely aren't trading those picks. Unless you want to trade up for jeanty but that feels like a bad use of resources. I guess Graham although I'm not entirely sure that nolen isn't better than him.

 

[playthrough2001]

If they have to give up a 2 to get an actual blue chip player vs 3 mid level guys, I would understand.

I'd rather have an actual first level talent plus a second round talent vs 3 second round talents.

They may risk drafting someone at 10 that grades out at a second round.

Nah, they can get a guy with a first round grade at ten even if he’s not a “blue.”

There are supposed to be 12-14 players with 1st round grades and none of them are QBs.

That math favors the Bears at ten.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Miller says if Jeanty is there at ten, draft him. Otherwise, he says stick and pick Kelvin Banks Jr. his number one OT. He likes Loveland too. (Yikes!).

I actually love colston. I just don't want to draft a TE. But loveland>>>warren

 

[playthrough2001]

Except the only blue chip players worth going up for are Carter or hunter and those teams likely aren't trading those picks. Unless you want to trade up for jeanty but that feels like a bad use of resources. I guess Graham although I'm not entirely sure that nolen isn't better than him.

Plus, Grant might be a better fit for the Bears than Graham. I’m not convinced Graham will be a better pro than Grant.

 

[playthrough2001]

I actually love colston. I just don't want to draft a TE. But loveland>>>warren

There’s no doubt he’s real good but that’s not for me at 10 either.

 

[EDPeezy]

If they have to give up a 2 to get an actual blue chip player vs 3 mid level guys, I would understand.

I'd rather have an actual first level talent plus a second round talent vs 3 second round talents.

They may risk drafting someone at 10 that grades out at a second round.

39 and 41 doesn’t get a blue chip prospect though. in this specific draft when you get into the teens the grades flatten out fairly significantly all the way up until like pick 50. 15-50 are surprisingly close in draft grades so trading up doesn’t really help you at all. You’d rather have more picks.

You’d rather have more picks in any scenario, So I don’t really get this whole “you actually don’t even want a bunch of picks this draft” thing I just read. Maybe if the draft is super weak and you feel comfortable enough to trade for future picks because the next draft is deep. Or some scenario like that. That’s rare and most teams aren’t in a position to do that though.