Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans ONLY - NFL Scouts had Banks as a top ten prospect at OT

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I agree with you. I have a suspicion that Banks will be there at 10 and that he will not be the pick, and they will take a OT in round 2 who they feel also has G flexibility and can serve as a fallback in case Braxton isn’t ready for the opening game.

If that happens, that will tell all of us how Roushar, Johnson and Poles projects Banks as a LT in the league.

I like Banks. Would love the pick. But I completely trust Roushar.
 

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I like Banks. Would love the pick. But I completely trust Roushar.
It will be a very interesting draft. They can honestly go in so many directions at 10 and almost all of them would make sense given the players in this particular draft.
 

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It will be a very interesting draft. They can honestly go in so many directions at 10 and almost all of them would make sense given the players in this particular draft.
The last several years I feel like I've had a pretty good idea of their plans before the draft. This year I've gone back and forth so many times on what I think they will do. There's a ton of different players I could realistically see them drafting at 10 from like 5 different position groups.
 

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The last several years I feel like I've had a pretty good idea of their plans before the draft. This year I've gone back and forth so many times on what I think they will do. There's a ton of different players I could realistically see them drafting at 10 from like 5 different position groups.
I know. Banks would make sense. I’m a huge fan of Grant and he would make sense. Jeanty, Mykel Williams, Walker, etc. Any of those guys would make sense, putting aside my own personal opinions of them as prospects, I would still understand the reasoning behind the pick.
 

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I know. Banks would make sense. I’m a huge fan of Grant and he would make sense. Jeanty, Mykel Williams, Walker, etc. any of those guys would make sense, putting aside my own personal opinions of them as prospects.
I even understand them wanting Warren orLoveland, just don't like it.

I also love nolen and think Harmon is a possibility. I could certainly see Hampton too.
 
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If people are thinking we should trade up for defense and that the OTs are going to be gone before 10 then the same people should be at least toying with the idea that we trade up for OTs.

Really we shouldn't trade up. OT, RB, TE or DT, or even Edge (like a 2 pick reach according the the board I trust). Someone we could use will be there at 10.
I think I agree with you, that if they think there is a true franchise tackle, you trade up to get them. If Alt was there this year I trade up.
 

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If you think Banks will be a very good LT, it’s a no-brainer pick. If you think he will be average at best, it’s not a good use of the 10 pick.

Hell, I’m not even sure most of the people who think he should be the pick believe he will be a very good LT. Just they should take him because he’s a LT and he would be good insurance if Braxton isn’t ready quite yet. I don’t agree with that logic. Honestly, I don’t think there’s that much of a drop off between Banks and a guy like Ersery.
I can’t speak for everyone advocating, drafting a left tackle, of course, but I can safely say that people are not suggesting using the #10 overall pick for a guy to be Braxton insurance.

Anyone suggesting the Bears draft a tackle at number 10 is doing so because they believe a) we need to upgrade the talent at that position and b) believe that whomever they take at number 10 would in fact be that upgrade.

If you’re drafting a backup or insurance for Braxton, you do it much lower than number 10
 

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I guess the question is—if we do go Jeanty or Warren will there be a LT at #39 that is better than Braxton? Or do we have to trade back up to get somebody? Here's where the mocks has them going (in this case we got Jeanty at #10)

04. Campbell NEP
07. Membou NYJ
13. Banks MIA
34. Simmons NYG

Leaving Conerly and Ersery at 39.

I just did a mock and I'd love if this happened.

PFN_Draft_result_1745039937941.png
 

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I can’t speak for everyone advocating, drafting a left tackle, of course, but I can safely say that people are not suggesting using the #10 overall pick for a guy to be Braxton insurance.

Anyone suggesting the Bears draft a tackle at number 10 is doing so because they believe a) we need to upgrade the talent at that position and b) believe that whomever they take at number 10 would in fact be that upgrade.

If you’re drafting a backup or insurance for Braxton, you do it much lower than number 10
Imo drafting a tackle at 10 is because you don’t want to pay big money to Braxton, and I’m doubtful he is going to play well coming off his injury.

I don’t think the tackle at 10 needs to be an immediate upgrade to Braxton, but at these point I feel like we’ve seen his ceiling and it’s not very high
 

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More on Daniel Jeremiah’s conference call yesterday that is Bears specific…

4) Bears in enviable spot. Jeremiah mentioned the Bears as a team to watch in next week's draft, loaded with four relatively early picks to buttress what has been another big offseason full of additions.

"They are in a fantastic position when you're picking 10, 39, 41 and 72," he said. "They get four instant-impact players with the way this draft shakes out."

But figuring out which order to address their positions of need in will be key. If the Bears are locked in on upgrading at offensive tackle, Jeremiah suggested they act quickly.

"If you are dead set on getting an offensive tackle and you want to get your long-term left tackle, you're going to want to do that with your first pick," Jeremiah said. "I just don't love the possibilities of you seeing someone that's going to be an upgrade over what you have once you get into the second round of this particular draft."

But even if a top offensive tackle doesn't fall to them at 10, Jeremiah said that having the three picks that follow allows them to let the board come to them. That could mean taking "one of the top two tight ends" or Jeanty at 10, if they're available.

"If they want to reinforce the defensive line, get an edge rusher, to me a sweet spot for them would be pick 39 for an edge rusher," Jeremiah said. "That's a great area to find that guy.

"... They're in a great spot where they don't have to be aggressive with the first pick. Somebody's going to go to them there that they're going to love and is going to start from Day 1 and (make) an impact. I'm almost more excited to see what happens with their next picks, because that's going to be a fun combination of players they put together."

Big picture, Jeremiah doesn't believe the Bears' defense is fully complete. But with Ben Johnson joining forces with Caleb Williams, it would certainly make sense if they lean heavily in the offensive direction this draft.

"We can look at the defensive side of the ball and you can find holes, but at the end of next year, if Caleb Williams has taken a massive leap with Ben Johnson, I think Bears fans will be feeling pretty darn good about the direction," he said. "So that's why, if it's close, I look to that side of the ball."

 

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More on Daniel Jeremiah’s conference call yesterday that is Bears specific…

4) Bears in enviable spot. Jeremiah mentioned the Bears as a team to watch in next week's draft, loaded with four relatively early picks to buttress what has been another big offseason full of additions.

"They are in a fantastic position when you're picking 10, 39, 41 and 72," he said. "They get four instant-impact players with the way this draft shakes out."

But figuring out which order to address their positions of need in will be key. If the Bears are locked in on upgrading at offensive tackle, Jeremiah suggested they act quickly.

"If you are dead set on getting an offensive tackle and you want to get your long-term left tackle, you're going to want to do that with your first pick," Jeremiah said. "I just don't love the possibilities of you seeing someone that's going to be an upgrade over what you have once you get into the second round of this particular draft."

But even if a top offensive tackle doesn't fall to them at 10, Jeremiah said that having the three picks that follow allows them to let the board come to them. That could mean taking "one of the top two tight ends" or Jeanty at 10, if they're available.

"If they want to reinforce the defensive line, get an edge rusher, to me a sweet spot for them would be pick 39 for an edge rusher," Jeremiah said. "That's a great area to find that guy.

"... They're in a great spot where they don't have to be aggressive with the first pick. Somebody's going to go to them there that they're going to love and is going to start from Day 1 and (make) an impact. I'm almost more excited to see what happens with their next picks, because that's going to be a fun combination of players they put together."

Big picture, Jeremiah doesn't believe the Bears' defense is fully complete. But with Ben Johnson joining forces with Caleb Williams, it would certainly make sense if they lean heavily in the offensive direction this draft.

"We can look at the defensive side of the ball and you can find holes, but at the end of next year, if Caleb Williams has taken a massive leap with Ben Johnson, I think Bears fans will be feeling pretty darn good about the direction," he said. "So that's why, if it's close, I look to that side of the ball."

I completely agree with Jeremiah that I'm equally if not more excited to see what they do at 39, 41 and 72. I think all 3 of those picks could have a similar impact to #10.
 

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I completely agree with Jeremiah that I'm equally if not more excited to see what they do at 39, 41 and 72. I think all 3 of those picks could have a similar impact to #10.

Yes, next Friday (rounds 2 and 3) will be a pivotal moment for Poles and Johnson. There will be so many possibilities. My ideal scenario would be an OT, Edge, DT, and RB with the first 4 picks. Previously, I’d hoped to get the RB in the 5th but I’ve softened on that. If Mukuba is available at 72, I think they’ll take him. Safety is a need too.
 

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Yes, next Friday (rounds 2 and 3) will be a pivotal moment for Poles and Johnson. There will be so many possibilities. My ideal scenario would be an OT, Edge, DT, and RB with the first 4 picks. Previously, I’d hoped to get the RB in the 5th but I’ve softened on that. If Mukuba is available at 72, I think they’ll take him. Safety is a need too.
I think my favorite draft scenario (that is very unlikely and I know a lot of people hate it) is jeanty, ersery, jtt, cj west. I think jeanty is gone at 6 and ersery likely ends up with kc, but if he makes it past them I could see him getting to the bears.

I also really love Kyle Williams as a weapon in johnsons offense and think he gives a much needed speed element. I personally just can't take him over DL/OL/RB. Unless they can move up from their 5th rounder to grab someone like saivion Jones who has a similar skill set to jtt.

Darius Alexander is also a draft crush, just think cj west in 3 makes more sense in opening up those first 3 picks.
 

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Yes, next Friday (rounds 2 and 3) will be a pivotal moment for Poles and Johnson. There will be so many possibilities. My ideal scenario would be an OT, Edge, DT, and RB with the first 4 picks. Previously, I’d hoped to get the RB in the 5th but I’ve softened on that. If Mukuba is available at 72, I think they’ll take him. Safety is a need too.
I don’t believe other than cost you’re upgrading your RB room in round 5 this year. It’s deep, but not round 5 deep.
 

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I don’t believe other than cost you’re upgrading your RB room in round 5 this year. It’s deep, but not round 5 deep.

Where is the cut off for you and what prospects are you considering still possibly being available around that range?

I’m curious, I’ve seen so much speculation.
 

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I also think if they do like Braxton and Kiran, that a real possibility is them taking Donovan Jackson/jonah savaiinaea as a safety net for the whole line. Guys who could play T if needed but who would be high end depth along the interior.

I like both of those players. Actually, Jackson is one of my favorite players in the draft.
 

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