Official NFL Draft Thread - Bear Fans Only - and No Montucky!

[playthrough2001]

That’s a pretty lazy take.

A useful analogy. Jeanty was on a JV high school football team. They were playing the varsity team that is one of the best in the state. The JV team has very few, if any, players that can or will ever play on that varsity team. And everyone knows it. The only reason the game is being played is because of 1 single person out of the entire team that is so good he would start over anyone at the position on the other team. Other than that, those 2 teams had no business being on the same field.

That won’t be the case in the pros, because the utter disparity won’t exist in that regard.

I made the same mistake when criticizing Banks. Mykel Williams, who isn’t close to a finished product, beat Banks over and over. That’s one game. Doesn’t mean Banks will be a bust. My issues with Banks extend past that one game though.

But to point to that PSU game without factoring in everything isn’t a logical way to evaluate him, imo.

Matt Miller recorded this for you. No kidding! He told me.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

That’s a pretty lazy take.

A useful analogy. Jeanty was on a JV high school football team. They were playing the varsity team that is one of the best in the state. The JV team has very few, if any, players that can or will ever play on that varsity team. And everyone knows it. The only reason the game is being played is because of 1 single person out of the entire team that is so good he would start over anyone at the position on the other team. Other than that, those 2 teams had no business being on the same field.

That won’t be the case in the pros, because the utter disparity won’t exist in that regard.

I made the same mistake when criticizing Banks. Mykel Williams, who isn’t close to a finished product, beat Banks over and over. That’s one game. Doesn’t mean Banks will be a bust. My issues with Banks extend past that one game though.

But to point to that PSU game without factoring in everything isn’t a logical way to evaluate him, imo.

I’m just busting balls since people get all sensitive over him.

I do think the letter was kinda cocky. Like just STFU and get drafted kid. These kids talk too much these days. Wish they would get off my damn lawn too.

 

[DefNextYear]

As NFL draft nears, teams get up close with Georgia football's Jalon Walker, Mykel Williams

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Bears did not show up to see Walker or Mykel.

 

[playthrough2001]

I’m just busting balls since people get all sensitive over him.

I do think the letter was kinda cocky. Like just STFU and get drafted kid. These kids talk too much these days. Wish they would get off my damn lawn too.

What color is your Gran Torino?

 

[DefNextYear]

I’m just busting balls since people get all sensitive over him.

I do think the letter was kinda cocky. Like just STFU and get drafted kid. These kids talk too much these days. Wish they would get off my damn lawn too.

I told a buddy it was kind of cheesy. Something like that shouldn't really move the needle. All these RBs would say the same crap... hell, all these players at any position would say the same crap to some degree. I don't care that he wrote it, but funny how people have gotten hyped over it.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

What color is your Gran Torino?

White. **** that flashy shit.

 

[zabavka]

Full open letter to NFL by Ashton Jeanty

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Plenty of NFL guys will be tackling Jeanty this coming season.

He's about to get a wake up call in the NFL.

 

[bearsfan1977]

I’m just busting balls since people get all sensitive over him.

I do think the letter was kinda cocky. Like just STFU and get drafted kid. These kids talk too much these days. Wish they would get off my damn lawn too.

Yeah, I get tired of that crap also. Just let your play do the talking

 

[playthrough2001]

I would make this trade 10 out of 10 times.

"10) Miami Dolphins​

Armand Membou, OT, Missouri​

*Trade: Miami sends Nos. 13, 98, 135, and 224 to Chicago for Pick No. 10.

The Dolphins have work to do following the retirement of veteran left tackle Terron Armstead. The team has already added notable pieces to its offensive line, but the chance to land Missouri’s Armand Membou is worth trading up for.

Arguably, no college offensive lineman in the country faced more high-quality pass rushers on their schedule than Membou in 2024. Likewise, no blocker consistently found a way to disallow pressures and sacks against top-notch competition the way Membou did.

It feels as though the window may be closing for Miami, with several key stars either over or approaching 30. Membou gives the Dolphins an immediate starter in a key position while giving them one less thing to address when the time comes to tear it down."

Here’s what he projects for Chicago:

"13) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

*Trade: Chicago receives Nos. 13, 98, 135, and 224 from Miami in exchange for No. 10.

This, again, may be bullish. But I have been wondering how high Omarion Hampton would be getting projected if it wasn’t for Jeanty. Sticking at No. 10 and taking Membou would have been an option, but a team plugging gaps in free agency often suggests they have other plans in the draft.

Therefore, I’m giving them Hampton here. After two years of David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs, I’m not sure that D’Andre Swift moves the needle for Ben Johnson. The Bears have a competitive defense when they’re all focusing on the play and not the opposition fans (still too soon?), so they can afford to splash out on offense.

Hampton combines blistering home-run ability with the bruising power that weakens defenses over time. If Johnson wants his new offense to dominate as the Detroit Lions did, he’ll need dominant players like Hampton.

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Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State

41) Chicago Bears
Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, Boston College"

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[--CyBear--]

Based on experience, level of competition, and pretty much all other measurable, Banks is light years ahead of Kiran. Right now, Banks is already better than Kiran and maybe even Braxton considering his injury.

The Bears shouldn’t be focused on the idea of “we spent a third round pick on this guy and we can’t give up on him.” If an immediate upgrade is available on the second most important position on the offense you take him. A 3rd pick isn’t a big deal and Kiran can still contribute and develop.

Draft the best offensive lineman available even if it’s a slight “reach” IMO.

Who said Kiran was as good as Banks? Is T their only need? I won't complain about a T in 1 but is it really a pressing or #1 need?

We'd like Jones to be better with a bull rush but imagine if Caleb actually had a pocket to step up into instead of having to constantly back up and all those outside rush deep redirects that were troubling are now a yard or more behind him. Most of Jones' pressures and sacks were as much the interior's fault as his.

Kiran got drafted as a guy with a ton of potential to be coached up and has had zero opportunity to have that happen due to not being able to practice until a few weeks into the season. No idea what he'll become but I suspect the staff will want to find out. You don't waste an early 3rd on an injured player you don't plan on using that year unless you project a round or more higher grade on him once back to normal and coached up.

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[BearDown104]

Full open letter to NFL by Ashton Jeanty

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I admire his confidence BUT he faced a grand total of 7 guys who are projected in the top 200 coming out of college this year and they were all in the Oregon and Penn St games. Let’s chill on the “they can’t tackle me” when we are talking about guys from Portland St who will be getting their MBA in a few years, not going to the combine.

 

[Enasic]

Plenty of NFL guys will be tackling Jeanty this coming season.

He's about to get a wake up call in the NFL.

Lol pretty sure he realizes he’s going to get tackled in the NFL. He was just talking shit because he’s hard to tackle. AJ Hawk make a comment how he hated tackling those shorter, compact, ultra strong RBs because it was so difficult.

 

[TL1961]

Guys…… what if we traded all our picks this year for picks next year when the draft is (per sources) LOADED? Then we tank this year and have a Super Draft next year? Caleb can take the year off and work on his footwork with big BJ. Bagent can start and when we lose him to free agency we get a comp pick!!

I’ll hang up and listen….

NOW you’re onto something!

 

[TL1961]

I’m aware. It’s not an ideal situation, and they’ll need to add an OT at some point, but I don’t think you over draft a lesser player just because you’re concerned your starter might miss a couple of games. The Bears also have a lot more info on Braxtons injury too….if they’re really concerned about it or the rehab isn’t going well, thats definitely a factor….but if you expect him to fully bounce back, he’s going to beat out all these guys being talked about.

Nobody would be suggesting they use the number 10 pick on a tackle if they felt that the tackle taken at that position was not going to beat out Braxton Jones.

You are of the mindset that there are no tackles in this draft better than Braxton, so if you feel that way, you would not want to draft a tackle. That’s fair.

I believe most of us feel very differently. There may not be a Jonathan Ogden by any stretch, but there is talent expected to be better than Braxton Jones. And I don’t feel they are better than Braxton simply because of his injury. I have no reason to believe he won’t fully recover, but I still think we need a higher level of talent.

 

[BearDown104]

Nobody would be suggesting they use the number 10 pick on a tackle if they felt that the tackle taken at that position was not going to beat out Braxton Jones.

You are of the mindset that there are no tackles in this draft better than Braxton, so if you feel that way, you would not want to draft a tackle. That’s fair.

I believe most of us feel very differently. There may not be a Jonathan Ogden by any stretch, but there is talent expected to be better than Braxton Jones. And I don’t feel they are better than Braxton simply because of his injury. I have no reason to believe he won’t fully recover, but I still think we need a higher level of talent.

And to not have to pay an average at best Braxton Jones 20 million dollars a season starting next year. No thanks!

 

[Enasic]

Nobody would be suggesting they use the number 10 pick on a tackle if they felt that the tackle taken at that position was not going to beat out Braxton Jones.

You are of the mindset that there are no tackles in this draft better than Braxton, so if you feel that way, you would not want to draft a tackle. That’s fair.

I believe most of us feel very differently. There may not be a Jonathan Ogden by any stretch, but there is talent expected to be better than Braxton Jones. And I don’t feel they are better than Braxton simply because of his injury. I have no reason to believe he won’t fully recover, but I still think we need a higher level of talent.

That’s fair. I mentioned it before, but there are only about 7-10 elite LTs in the NFL followed by a bunch of average/slightly above average guys, which is where I’d put Braxton. He actually graded out very well when he was healthy but health is the biggest concern.

For the “draft an OT at 10” crowd, I’m assuming they believe whoever will be there is going to join the top 10 elite NFL LT crowd? I don’t see it personally but maybe someone like Banks/Conerly will. I’m just not a fan of using a top 10 pick on an OT that doesn’t project as elite when you already have more than a capable starter.

 

[playthrough2001]

That’s fair. I mentioned it before, but there are only about 7-10 elite LTs in the NFL followed by a bunch of average/slightly above average guys, which is where I’d put Braxton. He actually graded out very well when he was healthy but health is the biggest concern.

For the “draft an OT at 10” crowd, I’m assuming they believe whoever will be there is going to join the top 10 elite NFL LT crowd? I don’t see it personally but maybe someone like Banks/Conerly will. I’m just not a fan of using a top 10 pick on an OT that doesn’t project as elite when you already have more than a capable starter.

Here’s the rub, they’re going to have to pay Jones like he’s elite next off season if they don’t cover themselves.

 

[DefNextYear]

I would make this trade 10 out of 10 times.

"10) Miami Dolphins​

Armand Membou, OT, Missouri​

*Trade: Miami sends Nos. 13, 98, 135, and 224 to Chicago for Pick No. 10.

The Dolphins have work to do following the retirement of veteran left tackle Terron Armstead. The team has already added notable pieces to its offensive line, but the chance to land Missouri’s Armand Membou is worth trading up for.

Arguably, no college offensive lineman in the country faced more high-quality pass rushers on their schedule than Membou in 2024. Likewise, no blocker consistently found a way to disallow pressures and sacks against top-notch competition the way Membou did.

It feels as though the window may be closing for Miami, with several key stars either over or approaching 30. Membou gives the Dolphins an immediate starter in a key position while giving them one less thing to address when the time comes to tear it down."

Here’s what he projects for Chicago:

"13) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

*Trade: Chicago receives Nos. 13, 98, 135, and 224 from Miami in exchange for No. 10.

This, again, may be bullish. But I have been wondering how high Omarion Hampton would be getting projected if it wasn’t for Jeanty. Sticking at No. 10 and taking Membou would have been an option, but a team plugging gaps in free agency often suggests they have other plans in the draft.

Therefore, I’m giving them Hampton here. After two years of David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs, I’m not sure that D’Andre Swift moves the needle for Ben Johnson. The Bears have a competitive defense when they’re all focusing on the play and not the opposition fans (still too soon?), so they can afford to splash out on offense.

Hampton combines blistering home-run ability with the bruising power that weakens defenses over time. If Johnson wants his new offense to dominate as the Detroit Lions did, he’ll need dominant players like Hampton.

39) Chicago Bears
Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State

41) Chicago Bears
Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, Boston College"

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I'd take Membou if they project he can be a LT. If not, then yea... I'd probably do it, but I would likely not choose Hampton at 13.

 

[dabears70]

I would make this trade 10 out of 10 times.

"10) Miami Dolphins​

Armand Membou, OT, Missouri​

*Trade: Miami sends Nos. 13, 98, 135, and 224 to Chicago for Pick No. 10.

The Dolphins have work to do following the retirement of veteran left tackle Terron Armstead. The team has already added notable pieces to its offensive line, but the chance to land Missouri’s Armand Membou is worth trading up for.

Arguably, no college offensive lineman in the country faced more high-quality pass rushers on their schedule than Membou in 2024. Likewise, no blocker consistently found a way to disallow pressures and sacks against top-notch competition the way Membou did.

It feels as though the window may be closing for Miami, with several key stars either over or approaching 30. Membou gives the Dolphins an immediate starter in a key position while giving them one less thing to address when the time comes to tear it down."

Here’s what he projects for Chicago:

"13) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

*Trade: Chicago receives Nos. 13, 98, 135, and 224 from Miami in exchange for No. 10.

This, again, may be bullish. But I have been wondering how high Omarion Hampton would be getting projected if it wasn’t for Jeanty. Sticking at No. 10 and taking Membou would have been an option, but a team plugging gaps in free agency often suggests they have other plans in the draft.

Therefore, I’m giving them Hampton here. After two years of David Montgomery and Jahmyr Gibbs, I’m not sure that D’Andre Swift moves the needle for Ben Johnson. The Bears have a competitive defense when they’re all focusing on the play and not the opposition fans (still too soon?), so they can afford to splash out on offense.

Hampton combines blistering home-run ability with the bruising power that weakens defenses over time. If Johnson wants his new offense to dominate as the Detroit Lions did, he’ll need dominant players like Hampton.

39) Chicago Bears
Tyleik Williams, DT, Ohio State

41) Chicago Bears
Donovan Ezeiruaku, EDGE, Boston College"

2-Round 2025 NFL Mock Draft With Trades: Cowboys and Dolphins Make Massive Moves, Colts Grab a Receiver | PFSN

The Cowboys and Dolphins make aggressive moves in Round 1 while Shedeur Sanders falls out of the top five in this two-round mock draft.

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There shouldn't even be a question of excepting that trade or not. It's an easy yes.

 

[playthrough2001]

I'd take Membou if they project he can be a LT. If not, then yea... I'd probably do it, but I would likely not choose Hampton at 13.

I would not take Hampton either but I’d love to move down and grab the picks. I want trenches. I’d be fine with Membou but I prefer Banks.