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First of all when we talk about weapons that usually means everyone on offense but the QB and OL. When we say weapons it means weapons for the QB so he threw a little twist in it there. We have better weapons than the Cowboys and the Chargers. Now would i love to have C.Lamb and L.McConkey? Of course i would but i like the whole group of weapons we have over just having a great WR (talking about Lamb)to go with average to good weapons to go with that one great WR.
 

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First of all when we talk about weapons that usually means everyone on offense but the QB and OL. When we say weapons it means weapons for the QB so he threw a little twist in it there. We have better weapons than the Cowboys and the Chargers. Now would i love to have C.Lamb and L.McConkey? Of course i would but i like the whole group of weapons we have over just having a great WR (talking about Lamb)to go with average to good weapons to go with that one great WR.
I think that's limiting. Does anyone think JF or guys like Lamar or Josh Allen are not considered weapons. Even Hurts. These guys are more than distributors and force D's to change scheme for them. O course that works better when the O can use it's other weapons to take advantage but they are clearly more than facilitators.
 

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The Draft Network just posted their latest mock. I don’t like it.

"10. Chicago Bears​

Shemar Stewart, EDGE, Texas A&M

Bringing in Grady Jarrett was a good start to improving the defensive line, and I hope he can return to his previous form. However, Montez Sweat could use a running mate opposite him in Chicago. Shemar Stewart has all the traits, power, and athleticism to be a dominant player in the NFL.

23. Green Bay Packers​

Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State

Green Bay has attempted to piece the wide receiver position together over the past few seasons, but inconsistency and lack of development have hampered the results for Jordan Love and Co. Emeka Egbuka is a skilled player who can play multiple receiver positions, possesses a high football IQ to win in various ways, and is a tough player to bring down after the catch.

24. Minnesota Vikings​

Kelvin Banks Jr., OL, Texas

The J.J. McCarthy Era has begun in Minnesota, and while Christian Darrisaw should be able to return and play left tackle for them, it's never a bad idea to have options. Kelvin Banks Jr. could compete at left guard right away for the Vikings while possibly becoming the future right tackle with Brian O'Neill entering his 30s.

28. Detroit Lions​

Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall

There are off-field concerns surrounding Mike Green that could cause him to fall on draft night. If a team has done their due diligence and comes away confident in the player and their process, they'll be getting an immediate impact pass rusher. The Lions have been searching for a running mate for Aidan Hutchinson, and Green would be a great fit on the opposite side."

 

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I think that's limiting. Does anyone think JF or guys like Lamar or Josh Allen are not considered weapons. Even Hurts. These guys are more than distributors and force D's to change scheme for them. O course that works better when the O can use it's other weapons to take advantage but they are clearly more than facilitators.
Welp good thing for this convo is none of those QB's/Teams were brought up in the OP. LOL
 

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I think that's limiting. Does anyone think JF or guys like Lamar or Josh Allen are not considered weapons. Even Hurts. These guys are more than distributors and force D's to change scheme for them. O course that works better when the O can use it's other weapons to take advantage but they are clearly more than facilitators.
That could be the case but the poster was originally talking about WR/TE’s and then threw in the QB to the argument, thus moving the goalposts. Bears obviously aren’t drafting a QB this year so it means little to this argument.
 

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The Draft Network just posted their latest mock. I don’t like it.

"10. Chicago Bears​

Shemar Stewart, EDGE, Texas A&M

Bringing in Grady Jarrett was a good start to improving the defensive line, and I hope he can return to his previous form. However, Montez Sweat could use a running mate opposite him in Chicago. Shemar Stewart has all the traits, power, and athleticism to be a dominant player in the NFL.

23. Green Bay Packers​

Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio State

Green Bay has attempted to piece the wide receiver position together over the past few seasons, but inconsistency and lack of development have hampered the results for Jordan Love and Co. Emeka Egbuka is a skilled player who can play multiple receiver positions, possesses a high football IQ to win in various ways, and is a tough player to bring down after the catch.

24. Minnesota Vikings​

Kelvin Banks Jr., OL, Texas

The J.J. McCarthy Era has begun in Minnesota, and while Christian Darrisaw should be able to return and play left tackle for them, it's never a bad idea to have options. Kelvin Banks Jr. could compete at left guard right away for the Vikings while possibly becoming the future right tackle with Brian O'Neill entering his 30s.

28. Detroit Lions​

Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall

There are off-field concerns surrounding Mike Green that could cause him to fall on draft night. If a team has done their due diligence and comes away confident in the player and their process, they'll be getting an immediate impact pass rusher. The Lions have been searching for a running mate for Aidan Hutchinson, and Green would be a great fit on the opposite side."

Would be a dangerous decision by Poles and one he couldn't blame on Ben Johnson or Dennis Allen if it was a bust of a draft pick.
 

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Pro Football Network has a new 7 rounder.

"10) Chicago Bears​

Will Campbell, OT, LSU​

The Chicago Bears revamped the interior of their offensive line in the offseason, but they did not make any upgrades at tackle. That could be viewed as a vote of confidence in Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright from Ben Johnson or an indictment of the offensive tackle talent available in free agency.

The Bears can address the offensive tackle position in the 2025 NFL Draft with Will Campbell, who projects as a potential starting left tackle from Day 1. Campbell would enter training camp as immediate competition for both Jones and Wright. At worst, he will be a high-level backup in 2025 and a succession plan for Jones when he moves on as a free agent next year.

39) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

There’s been plenty of talk about Ben Johnson reshaping the Bears’ running back room. Johnson leaned on a two-back system in Detroit, and Omarion Hampton could fill a similar role in Chicago. Hampton is a three-down back with upside as both a runner and receiver. He could sneak into the first round if a team falls in love with his skill set, but if not, he’s a strong pick early on Day 2.

41) Chicago Bears​

Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame​

There’s debate over how high safety ranks on the Bears’ priority list, but with Kevin Byard aging and Jaquan Brisker dealing with injuries, adding depth makes sense. Watts has versatility — he can contribute as a slot corner while waiting for a starting safety role to open up.

72) Chicago Bears​

Kyle Kennard, EDGE, South Carolina​

The Bears’ depth chart at EDGE looks top-heavy with Dayo Odeyingbo and Montez Sweat. Behind them, there is certainly room for improvement, both in terms of a rotational role player and a high-level backup to cover either role in case of injury.

Kyle Kennard can disrupt passing games with his skills as a pass rusher. He is more of a speed rusher than a power rusher, and that presents issues against more nimble offensive linemen who can match his movements and shut him down. It also presents an issue against the run, but that is an area he can look to develop once he gets to the NFL and starts working with strength and conditioning coaches.

148) Chicago Bears
Jeffrey Bassa, LB, Oregon

233) Chicago Bears
Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson, OT, Florida

240) Chicago Bears
Max Brosmer, QB, Minnesota"

 

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Would be a dangerous decision by Poles and one he couldn't blame on Ben Johnson or Dennis Allen if it was a bust of a draft pick.
I agree it would be dangerous. A good leader never looks to blame any teammates or subordinates.
 

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That could be the case but the poster was originally talking about WR/TE’s and then threw in the QB to the argument, thus moving the goalposts. Bears obviously aren’t drafting a QB this year so it means little to this argument.
Sure but the comment was vs a generalization. Context matters but you don't get to change back and forth between specifics and generalization as is convenient and it was a generalization that I responded to. I would also describe a QB's ability to see the field or ability to read as a weapon. A deep ball may be a weapon etc, What I responded to was a limiting generalization.

Not on either side of the ongoing argument.
 

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Pro Football Network has a new 7 rounder.

"10) Chicago Bears​

Will Campbell, OT, LSU​

The Chicago Bears revamped the interior of their offensive line in the offseason, but they did not make any upgrades at tackle. That could be viewed as a vote of confidence in Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright from Ben Johnson or an indictment of the offensive tackle talent available in free agency.

The Bears can address the offensive tackle position in the 2025 NFL Draft with Will Campbell, who projects as a potential starting left tackle from Day 1. Campbell would enter training camp as immediate competition for both Jones and Wright. At worst, he will be a high-level backup in 2025 and a succession plan for Jones when he moves on as a free agent next year.

39) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

There’s been plenty of talk about Ben Johnson reshaping the Bears’ running back room. Johnson leaned on a two-back system in Detroit, and Omarion Hampton could fill a similar role in Chicago. Hampton is a three-down back with upside as both a runner and receiver. He could sneak into the first round if a team falls in love with his skill set, but if not, he’s a strong pick early on Day 2.

41) Chicago Bears​

Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame​

There’s debate over how high safety ranks on the Bears’ priority list, but with Kevin Byard aging and Jaquan Brisker dealing with injuries, adding depth makes sense. Watts has versatility — he can contribute as a slot corner while waiting for a starting safety role to open up.

72) Chicago Bears​

Kyle Kennard, EDGE, South Carolina​

The Bears’ depth chart at EDGE looks top-heavy with Dayo Odeyingbo and Montez Sweat. Behind them, there is certainly room for improvement, both in terms of a rotational role player and a high-level backup to cover either role in case of injury.

Kyle Kennard can disrupt passing games with his skills as a pass rusher. He is more of a speed rusher than a power rusher, and that presents issues against more nimble offensive linemen who can match his movements and shut him down. It also presents an issue against the run, but that is an area he can look to develop once he gets to the NFL and starts working with strength and conditioning coaches.

148) Chicago Bears
Jeffrey Bassa, LB, Oregon

233) Chicago Bears
Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson, OT, Florida

240) Chicago Bears
Max Brosmer, QB, Minnesota"

I think these will start getting better after this week's round of Pro days as personnel people and talking heads cross paths and some of the top players actually work out.

That said, I don't hate it.
 

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I think these will start getting better after this week's round of Pro days as personnel people and talking heads cross paths and some of the top players actually work out.

That said, I don't hate it.
Every pick fills a need with a good prospect. Personally, I’d like all of the top four picks to go to the trenches but I would not pass on Hampton if he was there at 39.
 

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39) Chicago Bears

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

There’s been plenty of talk about Ben Johnson reshaping the Bears’ running back room. Johnson leaned on a two-back system in Detroit, and Omarion Hampton could fill a similar role in Chicago. Hampton is a three-down back with upside as both a runner and receiver. He could sneak into the first round if a team falls in love with his skill set, but if not, he’s a strong pick early on Day 2.
Unfortunately, I think there's absolutely no chance Hampton falls this far.

I think Jeanty is 100% gone by 12 and I think Hampton is probably gone by 25. I actually strongly feel Jeanty won't be on the board at 10 for the Bears to consider... which will probably drive up Hampton's value to a mid round pick.
 

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Unfortunately, I think there's absolutely no chance Hampton falls this far.

I think Jeanty is 100% gone by 12 and I think Hampton is probably gone by 25. I actually strongly feel Jeanty won't be on the board at 10 for the Bears to consider... which will probably drive up Hampton's value to a mid round pick.
Yes, I can’t imagine him available at 39 as well.
 

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Biggs says he doesn’t think you can play Membou at LT.

I think Biggs might be @Xplosive. He loves Tyler Warren.

There’s actually some intelligent draft talk in this segment.
 
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Pro Football Network has a new 7 rounder.

"10) Chicago Bears​

Will Campbell, OT, LSU​

The Chicago Bears revamped the interior of their offensive line in the offseason, but they did not make any upgrades at tackle. That could be viewed as a vote of confidence in Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright from Ben Johnson or an indictment of the offensive tackle talent available in free agency.

The Bears can address the offensive tackle position in the 2025 NFL Draft with Will Campbell, who projects as a potential starting left tackle from Day 1. Campbell would enter training camp as immediate competition for both Jones and Wright. At worst, he will be a high-level backup in 2025 and a succession plan for Jones when he moves on as a free agent next year.

39) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

There’s been plenty of talk about Ben Johnson reshaping the Bears’ running back room. Johnson leaned on a two-back system in Detroit, and Omarion Hampton could fill a similar role in Chicago. Hampton is a three-down back with upside as both a runner and receiver. He could sneak into the first round if a team falls in love with his skill set, but if not, he’s a strong pick early on Day 2.

41) Chicago Bears​

Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame​

There’s debate over how high safety ranks on the Bears’ priority list, but with Kevin Byard aging and Jaquan Brisker dealing with injuries, adding depth makes sense. Watts has versatility — he can contribute as a slot corner while waiting for a starting safety role to open up.

72) Chicago Bears​

Kyle Kennard, EDGE, South Carolina​

The Bears’ depth chart at EDGE looks top-heavy with Dayo Odeyingbo and Montez Sweat. Behind them, there is certainly room for improvement, both in terms of a rotational role player and a high-level backup to cover either role in case of injury.

Kyle Kennard can disrupt passing games with his skills as a pass rusher. He is more of a speed rusher than a power rusher, and that presents issues against more nimble offensive linemen who can match his movements and shut him down. It also presents an issue against the run, but that is an area he can look to develop once he gets to the NFL and starts working with strength and conditioning coaches.

148) Chicago Bears
Jeffrey Bassa, LB, Oregon

233) Chicago Bears
Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson, OT, Florida

240) Chicago Bears
Max Brosmer, QB, Minnesota"

Feel like PFN is seriously huffing their own farts if they honestly expect Hampton to fall to 39. Id love it for the Bears though.
 

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Pro Football Network has a new 7 rounder.

"10) Chicago Bears​

Will Campbell, OT, LSU​

The Chicago Bears revamped the interior of their offensive line in the offseason, but they did not make any upgrades at tackle. That could be viewed as a vote of confidence in Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright from Ben Johnson or an indictment of the offensive tackle talent available in free agency.

The Bears can address the offensive tackle position in the 2025 NFL Draft with Will Campbell, who projects as a potential starting left tackle from Day 1. Campbell would enter training camp as immediate competition for both Jones and Wright. At worst, he will be a high-level backup in 2025 and a succession plan for Jones when he moves on as a free agent next year.

39) Chicago Bears​

Omarion Hampton, RB, North Carolina​

There’s been plenty of talk about Ben Johnson reshaping the Bears’ running back room. Johnson leaned on a two-back system in Detroit, and Omarion Hampton could fill a similar role in Chicago. Hampton is a three-down back with upside as both a runner and receiver. He could sneak into the first round if a team falls in love with his skill set, but if not, he’s a strong pick early on Day 2.

41) Chicago Bears​

Xavier Watts, S, Notre Dame​

There’s debate over how high safety ranks on the Bears’ priority list, but with Kevin Byard aging and Jaquan Brisker dealing with injuries, adding depth makes sense. Watts has versatility — he can contribute as a slot corner while waiting for a starting safety role to open up.

72) Chicago Bears​

Kyle Kennard, EDGE, South Carolina​

The Bears’ depth chart at EDGE looks top-heavy with Dayo Odeyingbo and Montez Sweat. Behind them, there is certainly room for improvement, both in terms of a rotational role player and a high-level backup to cover either role in case of injury.

Kyle Kennard can disrupt passing games with his skills as a pass rusher. He is more of a speed rusher than a power rusher, and that presents issues against more nimble offensive linemen who can match his movements and shut him down. It also presents an issue against the run, but that is an area he can look to develop once he gets to the NFL and starts working with strength and conditioning coaches.

148) Chicago Bears
Jeffrey Bassa, LB, Oregon

233) Chicago Bears
Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson, OT, Florida

240) Chicago Bears
Max Brosmer, QB, Minnesota"

This would be a sick draft. They’d have to trade up into back end of the 1st to get Hampton though…
 

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That’s true, but the Bears genuinely do need to replace guys on the OL/DL. I don’t think Billings has a lot of time and I don’t think we can rely on Dayo. Those are easy targets for competition. On the OL, Braxton is going to be another. I think all of these guys are relatively average in the eyes of the league. Average guys deserve competition. On the flip side of it, DJ is one of the highest paid WRs, and Kmet is one of the highest paid TEs (both top 10 in total value of contract, both higher end draft choices). Rome was a top 10 pick a year ago. Those guys all have reason for people to believe are core pieces to this team for the next years. Their money and draft collateral say so. That’s not to say they’re invincible though. If Ben doesn’t want one or likes someone else more, then they may go ahead and make a move to replace them. My guess is they’re all good enough for Ben to keep for at least a year and make his own judgment before even thinking about bringing in high end competition for them.

I don’t see this as moneyball either. The Bears have invested heavily financially at WR/TE. As I mentioned above, those are also premium pick values. For example, I’m guessing Poles could’ve had Carolina’s first this year instead of DJ, but Poles chose to get DJ instead. These are guys the franchise value very highly. The Bears have moneyballed every other position besides these and DB.

And as much as I like the linemen they brought in, Thuney isn’t young and Jackson has a recent history of being hurt a lot. Those are more or less similar to just signing Amari Cooper right now if they want another target. They can’t rely on them to give much more than a 2 year bridge.
$16M AAV says Dayo is an investment that deserves a year before even thinking about replacing him. Add him to Sweat who is still young & Booker who they traded up for and there is no way to say they haven't put enough into the DE position.

I'm 100% on team Replace Braxton, but not with a guard (Campbell) and possibly not with a LT that is as slow footed as a guard (Banks). That means Membou would be the round 1 target, and everyone knows he might not be there.

The Bears have 3 pro bowl caliber IOL, and a broken scapula on a freak accident doesn't make Jackson injury prone. Funny how Thuney goes from being an All-Pro with plenty of tread on the tire, to suddenly old and on his last legs as soon as he gets to the Bears.

That leaves DT as the only fair option on the DL, I'd be good with Grant at #10 but again the strength of this draft is at DT and they can just as easily grab one at 39 or 41, so there is no trench mandate for #10 in this draft.
 

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Biggs says he doesn’t think you can play Membou at LT.

I think Biggs might be @Xplosive. He loves Tyler Warren.
I think I've come to the realization that we probably won't be able to find that LT this year, which is fine I guess. An early look at next year appears to have substantially better guys. I'd almost like to find a way to turn a pick from this draft into a pick from next years to give us ammo to move up if we want to.
 

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So we are just listing anybody as weapons then, huh?
I'd think players that are the top performers on their offense are the playmakers on the team. Is Odunze, Swift, and Kmet "weapons"? Not really. But they are the offensive playmakers that the Bears have.
 

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