Official Prince Fielder Thread ( Rumors, News, ETC )

[Captain Obvious]

1) ok, again going off of WAR. he isnt worth 25 million dollars....just because your subjective non stat states his so called "wins" doesnt mean his actual worth is 25 million.

2) ok, theo wasnt on board....but he still signed him. He was also pimped by cashman when the yanks had zero interest in crawford, but wined and dined him to drive the price up and tho took the bait.

3) didnt you want dunn last year? wasnt he the guy who you thought was coming to the cubs? .......remember....the sig bet.

Okay, fine, don't use WAR. Use something else and tell me how much he is worth.

Yeah, Theo signed him because his boss John Henry told him to. Derp.

Yeah, I did want Dunn. But it looks like Jimbo was smart enough to stay away. Can't say the same for KW.

 

[Captain Obvious]

2012 Contract Status: Signed thru 2017, 7 yrs/$142M

so worth it

Yep. He was. Because ya know, 1/7th through the contract you can say that with out a doubt he wasn't worth it. Righto.

 

[DewsSox79]

Okay, fine, don't use WAR. Use something else and tell me how much he is worth.

Yeah, Theo signed him because his boss John Henry told him to. Derp.

Yeah, I did want Dunn. But it looks like Jimbo was smart enough to stay away. Can't say the same for KW.[/QUOTE]

yeah, thats what it was, it was jim hendry...he knew something that KW didnt. haha ok CO. If he was that good, he wouldnt be sitting at home without a job. you moron.

 

[DewsSox79]

Yep. He was. Because ya know, 1/7th through the contract you can say that with out a doubt he wasn't worth it. Righto.

ok, keep thinking he is worth the money. a 30 year old player signed through 2017.....!

 

[DewsSox79]

so back to the topic, I cant wait for my 2nd straight year of winning a sig bet....time to come up with the next flavor for next offseason.

 

[Captain Obvious]

Okay, fine, don't use WAR. Use something else and tell me how much he is worth.

Yeah, Theo signed him because his boss John Henry told him to. Derp.

Yeah, I did want Dunn. But it looks like Jimbo was smart enough to stay away. Can't say the same for KW.[/QUOTE]

yeah, thats what it was, it was jim hendry...he knew something that KW didnt. haha ok CO. If he was that good, he wouldnt be sitting at home without a job. you moron.

ok, keep thinking he is worth the money. a 30 year old player signed through 2017.....!

Are you dense? I'm not saying it is a good signing. I'm not saying he is going to be worth the money at all. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that the 7 years prior to signing the 7 year contract, he was worth the money he is receiving. That is all that I am saying. And if you think that that is a knock on Theo, you're wrong. Theo didn't want to sign that contract, Henry did and Henry is the one with the checkbook.

Now with that being said, I'm curious as to how much you think CC is worth. Please back your argument up with something.

 

[DewsSox79]

Are you dense? I'm not saying it is a good signing. I'm not saying he is going to be worth the money at all. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that the 7 years prior to signing the 7 year contract, he was worth the money he is receiving. That is all that I am saying. And if you think that that is a knock on Theo, you're wrong. Theo didn't want to sign that contract, Henry did and Henry is the one with the checkbook.

Now with that being said, I'm curious as to how much you think CC is worth. Please back your argument up with something.

ROFL. not 7/142 thats for sure.

Oh, Henry: Red Sox owner ‘opposed’ Carl Crawford signing - Big League Stew - MLB

 

[Captain Obvious]

ROFL. not 7/142 thats for sure.

Oh, Henry: Red Sox owner ‘opposed’ Carl Crawford signing - Big League Stew - MLB

You're not understanding what I am saying. I am saying that in the previous 7 years he was worth 142MM. Not that he was worth a 7 year 142 million dollar contract.

I was thinking that Theo was against, Henry was for. Looks like I was wrong.

 

[DewsSox79]

You're not understanding what I am saying. I am saying that in the previous 7 years he was worth 142MM. Not that he was worth a 7 year 142 million dollar contract.

I was thinking that Theo was against, Henry was for. Looks like I was wrong.

either way, baseball has to stop with these large contracts for past performance. its killing the league.

 

[Rice Cube]

The large contracts are more of a rarity than the norm. But it does skew competitiveness towards the guys who have more money.

 

[brett05]

Kinda on topic. Who are sOme of the recent guys that should have gotten big contracts but had to settle? Juan Gonzalez, Vlad Guerrero, etc

 

[nwfisch]

Kinda on topic. Who are sOme of the recent guys that should have gotten big contracts but had to settle? Juan Gonzalez, Vlad Guerrero, etc

I agree that some have had to settle persay, but I couldn't think of a bigger name like Fielder who had to settle on a deal.

I don't think Fielder will settle like Guerrero did a year ago with the Orioles.

 

[dabynsky]

I agree that some have had to settle persay, but I couldn't think of a bigger name like Fielder who had to settle on a deal.

I don't think Fielder will settle like Guerrero did a year ago with the Orioles.

I am not sure, but I believe brett is referring to the contract Vlad got from the Angels than Baltimore. He was one of if not the premier free agents that year, but due to the market correcting itself after the ARod deal, Vlad really had to settle for a pretty small deal comparatively.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Kinda on topic. Who are sOme of the recent guys that should have gotten big contracts but had to settle? Juan Gonzalez, Vlad Guerrero, etc

i'll be surprised if fielder doesnt get some large deal...even if he resigns he may get a high per year amount

but ya those massive 5-10 year 120+(up to a rod and pujols) deals are exclusive for a few of the best...its not the norm

 

[Rice Cube]

Remaining Free Agent Power Hitters: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Using ISO is kind of iffy, but the point is that Carlos Pena is still available and it might make sense to a contending team like Texas (and not the Cubs) to pay less money for Pena than to blow it all on a Boras-sized Fielder contract.

 

[FirstTimer]

Looks like I was wrong.

Typical

 

[AddisonStation]

Remaining Free Agent Power Hitters: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Using ISO is kind of iffy, but the point is that Carlos Pena is still available and it might make sense to a contending team like Texas (and not the Cubs) to pay less money for Pena than to blow it all on a Boras-sized Fielder contract.

how is ISO iffy? It's pretty cut-and-dry. High ISO = High percentage of hits are XBH.

 

[Rice Cube]

how is ISO iffy? It's pretty cut-and-dry. High ISO = High percentage of hits are XBH.

They are power hitters when they connect. It's how often they connect that causes me to think "iffy" :lol: I think it's fine that they decided to rank it by ISO but a lot of the players on that list have flaws that outweigh the reward of their power hitting.

 

[Rice Cube]

Destinations For The Ten Best Remaining Free Agents: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

Apparently the Cubs and Mariners are the current favorites according to Heyman.

 

[AddisonStation]

They are power hitters when they connect. It's how often they connect that causes me to think "iffy" :lol: I think it's fine that they decided to rank it by ISO but a lot of the players on that list have flaws that outweigh the reward of their power hitting.

Fair enough. I'd like to see a couple other stats/metrics included in some of these tables too.