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napo55

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FYI, 75% of 1st round QB's don't pan out in the long run. Bust rate is nearly 60%, and there are another additional 10-15% that make a probowl to become trash(Mitch, for example, so he wouldn't be in the 60%)

Its the hardest position to scout and succeed in. Very few of those 75% failed mostly due to their situation, they failed cause they cant read a defense and avoid pressure.

If justin is bad this year it won't be because of his oline or wideouts, it will be because he's not one of the 15-20 guys in a given year that are capable of being NFL caliber QB's.

Would you say the same thing if Darnell Mooney is injured in game one and is out for the season? You do need somebodyto throw to.
 

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That is just a list of bad QBs. Now you have to go show us that it was the lack of talent on the team that caused them to fail, not their own problems or lack of their own talent as QBs.

Yes, Carr was on a team with a lack of talent but that could be expected from a new franchise.

Now show us that the rest failed because of a lack of talent.
Ummmmmm no. If you can't figure it out yourself then just don't believe it. I'm fine with that.
 

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Was curious about the patriots, but really since I missed the HoF game, tomorrow night will be my first time taking in real NFL football. I'm sure I'll just tune on for a quarter.
I wanna see some starters and the only team that i've heard out of those 4 that will play their starters some is the Giants.

I'm curious to see what Dabol can do with D.Jones. I know he's been average but he's done some good things, if he can't show some kind of turn around this year then he'll probably be heading elsewhere after this year.
 

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If no starters are playing I’ll dump the tickets.

half of the WR department is hurt...i might just sell now and buy back in for me and my wife and leave during the 3rd quarter.

Other than Mooney can you really tell the difference in our wr? Not exactly show stoppers lol. I would like to see Velus before he retires though.
 

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Was curious about the patriots, but really since I missed the HoF game, tomorrow night will be my first time taking in real NFL football. I'm sure I'll just tune on for a quarter.
I said that about the HOF game and I just wanted to watch ANY football so bad, I watched the whole thing. It was so damn one sided though.
 
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So, you are just spouting out lies?

Someone named Dabears70 needs to be banned from this thread for talking a bunch of bullshit that has nothing to do with reality and, thus, is not football talk.
I feel like meta discussions about best to keep this thread as a safe haven in the sea of sewage fall within the realm of acceptable postings. Honestly, the guy invites disaster everywhere he goes and instead of ignoring it he feeds it. Ruins this thread teebeeeych.
 

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I feel like meta discussions about best to keep this thread as a safe haven in the sea of sewage fall within the realm of acceptable postings. Honestly, the guy invites disaster everywhere he goes and instead of ignoring it he feeds it. Ruins this thread teebeeeych.
If you've got a problem with someone, just ignore it. No one needs to hear your commentary on what you think about another poster, and create opportunities for more ankle biting comments that have nothing to do with training camp.

3 day thread reply ban.
 

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