**Official** Training Camp News & Scheisse [Football Talk Only]

[JoJoBoxer]

He was treating Ro with family rules to start. When Ro went hardball business then Poles started treating him like a business adversary instead of family. That's just dealing with his shit like he should IMO. If he didn't I'd wonder about him.

Well, family rules can suck too.

I once saw one of my brothers sell the watch of another brother to a third brother who was visiting for a week from another state. He sold a $100 watch for 25 cents and the visiting brother took the watch and never looked back.

Since Poles offered Roquan several contracts, it is safe to say that they were all different.

Do you honestly think that Poles first offered Roquan a 30 million per year contract but Roquan then refused it because he saw that it would adversely affect the Bears cap in the future and then later contracts went from 28, 26, 24, 22 and finally the 20 million per year latest contract? Of course not.

So Poles was low-balling Roquan in his previous contracts which upset Roquan. This upset Roquan and would upset anyone of us (with realistic changes to the money amounts).

Because he chose to be his own agent, he used how he felt as a way to put pressure on the team.

Now the calling other teams seems stupid and illegal unless the Bears gave Roquan as Roquan's agent the ability to call other teams for a trade. Seeing that the front office again seems to be extremely secretive, I wouldn't put it past them to tell teams that Roquan can call them as his own agent without telling the press. It would be a way of letting Roquan find out that there really isn't a market for him getting 20 million.

Just my thoughts on a gameday morning.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558222731010887680

But then he ended the interview with, "with all the stress about suspensions and lawsuits, I could really use a happy ending to this interview".

 

[remydat]

Before, did you say seasons or off-seasons?

Honestly, not sure but that would be a game changer one way or another.

He said seasons and then got mad when I pointed it out as if it was my fault he didn't say what he meant.

 

[JoJoBoxer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558290346966122496

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558241278550220800

Sometimes the Prima Donnas get paid even if they are head cases.

 

[remydat]

A year earlier and 2 years of meh will certainly limit his deal. I already addressed this regarding AR. He could have got more from the Bear contract than the $15m he's making now. In Quans case, his tag # is lower than the average salary he's looking for and if he loafs, it will be less the next year, wherever he plays, just like AR.

But my point is not about what Quan gets. It is about what the Bears get. At the end of the day I am a Bears fan and getting shitty production and no comp from good to great players doesn't help the team.

The fact ARob fucked himself as well is irrelevant as his doing so doesn't mean Goodell is going to step in and give us a draft pick because of it.

Of course still plenty time for a positive outcome.

 

[Bearly]

But my point is not about what Quan gets. It is about what the Bears get. At the end of the day I am a Bears fan and getting shitty production and no comp from good to great players doesn't help the team.

The fact ARob fucked himself as well is irrelevant as his doing so doesn't mean Goodell us going to step in and give us a draft pick because of it.

Seems a little like both sides of a candle.

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558242367966175232

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558141022458318848

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558141028221206529

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558141043391995905

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558141087277015040

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558141092066988032

 

[Dejo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558438295088107522

 

[remydat]

Seems a little like both sides of a candle.

Well I would say MAD ie Mutually Assured Destruction where there are only losers and no winners.

 

[remydat]

@Dejo
That analysis of non-QB talent us interesting but would be more useful at end of the season given there are so many unknowns with the Bears.

 

[Bearly]

Well I would say MAD ie Mutually Assured Destruction where there are only losers and no winners.

I suppose but it's Roquan pulling the pin. Let's see if he puts it back or releases the lever.

 

[remydat]

I suppose but it's Roquan pulling the pin. Let's see if he puts it back or releases the lever.

Well that is why I said Pace will probably have to de-escalate. In this scenario Quan is Russia and Bears are US. Expecting the rogue actor to calm things down is probably not a good idea.

 

[Bearly]

Well that is why I said Pace will probably have to de-escalate. In this scenario Quan is Russia and Bears are US. Expecting the rogue actor to calm things down is probably not a good idea.

This will be interesting. I wonder how concerned Poles is with setting precedent.

 

[Dejo]

@Dejo
That analysis of non-QB talent us interesting but would be more useful at end of the season given there are so many unknowns with the Bears.

It will be a moving target year to year outside of the few elites at each position. Seems like a high volatility exercise.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

This will be interesting. I wonder how concerned Poles is with setting precedent.

They should also worry about the precedent they don’t take care of their best players. Mooney contract is up for extension next season. The way the wr market is if everyone here is turned off by the process over smith can’t wait for next years fireworks lol

 

[Bearly]

They should also worry about the precedent they don’t take care of their best players. Mooney contract is up for extension next season. The way the wr market is if everyone here is turned off by the process over smith can’t wait for next years fireworks lol

When it comes to FA, money talks. It's not like there's much negotiating.

 

[Dejo]

Funny, Pickens’ game reminded me of B-Marsh

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1558165542376280065

 

[Chicago4Life]

They should also worry about the precedent they don’t take care of their best players. Mooney contract is up for extension next season. The way the wr market is if everyone here is turned off by the process over smith can’t wait for next years fireworks lol

I don't think that will be as much of a concern unless mooney decides to fire his agent and represent himself. Roquan's level of greed seems insanely high, firing his agent to likely save on commission and then thinking it wouldn't be hard to do it himself.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Cmon man. Can you all just be adults? All you are doing here is inviting personal bullshit into this thread, which I'm trying hard to squash while remaining fair.

I don't like banning people, and frankly, I've got more important things to do with my time than chasing down reports trying to figure out who started what, where. My patience is running thin though. I'm gonna start banning anyone who even remotely baits, trolls or otherwise brings these threads off track.

Please be better.

cc: @Anytime23 @dabears70

And I mean that genuinely.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

I don't think that will be as much of a concern unless mooney decides to fire his agent and represent himself. Roquan's level of greed seems insanely high, firing his agent to likely save on commission and then thinking it wouldn't be hard to do it himself.

So when poles tries to sign Mooney for 15 mil a year and won’t budge while the rest of the league is paying 20-30 mil for wrs you don’t think there will be an issue next offseason? Can’t wait for all the easy to replace posts when fans again take management over players side