Offseason Stuff

[CSF77]

Rule V

Chicago Cubs (5)
2) Miguel Amaya, C
9) Zack Short, SS
12) Tyson Miller, RHP
22) Oscar De La Cruz, RHP
28) Trent Giambrone, INF/OF
No-brainers to protect: Amaya, Short, Miller
Could be intriguing to other clubs: de la Cruz

 

[Castor76]

You compared Bryant and Happs numbers as if that is a fair argument. Bryant plays everyday. Happ only plays when it is a favorable match up for him. Happ is far from a replacement for Bryant.

In saying all that TL is absolutely incorrect when he regurgitates trading Bryant is a bad move. If they keep Bryant and everyone else they are going to be the same team they’ve been the last few years. Competitive, but not a real contender and with zero financial flexibility. Also Bryant is leaving in free agency. A smart franchise recognizes their window closing and maneuvers to create a new window. Holding onto players to long is a mistake the cubs have made in the past

Let me say again, Happ is NOT better than Bryant. Bryant is also not so good he can't be traded. And for all the saying that Happ is put out there in favorable match ups, i.e. RHP, from 2017-2019, Bryant actually has a higher percentage of his PA versus RHP than Happ, 78.2% versus 74.5%, during that time. Defensively, by the WAR metric, they're very close. In RBI spots, Happ has been slightly better in rate those 3 years. And the PAs is about 380 for Bryant to Happ's 250ish, so it isn't a vast different there.

 

[CSF77]

BEST TOOLS

Hit: Nico Hoerner
Power: Brennen Davis
Run: Zach Davis
Arm: Nelson Velazquez
Field: Miguel Amaya
Best athlete: Brennen Davis

Fastball: Brailyn Marquez
Curveball: Chris Clarke
Slider: Keegan Thompson
Changeup: Kohl Franklin
Control: Cory Abbott

 

[anotheridiot]

whow, white sox sign Grandal to 4 year 73 million dollar deal.

I thought they had a pretty good kid at catcher.

 

[CSF77]

Why Cubs-Phillies Kris Bryant trade idea has merit

It’s time for Philadelphia Phillies general manager Matt Klentak to think outside the box. Here’s one idea to consider.

www.nj.com

 

[SilenceS]

Why Cubs-Phillies Kris Bryant trade idea has merit

It’s time for Philadelphia Phillies general manager Matt Klentak to think outside the box. Here’s one idea to consider.

www.nj.com

That would be a horrible trade.

 

[CSF77]

That would be a horrible trade.

Didn't have a opinion on it. Just on my feed and passed it on.

 

[CSF77]

Guess I would take it as a way to dump Heyward and get some pitching etc back.

I don't believe that they would because they are still in a window. This basic situation forces them to put out a winning product.

There was another one

Chicago Cubs Rumors: Would you do this Kris Bryant deal to the Dodgers?

Chicago Cubs Rumors: Kris Bryant has been in a lot of trades. Many, actually. Would you consider sending to the Dodgers for a package?

cubbiescrib.com

That one kinda makes sense.

 

[anotheridiot]

I know there will need to be a sweetener in any deal to take Heyward, just did not expect it to be Bryant

 

[beckdawg]

I don't get the hate for Heyward personally. I mean sure he's slightly over paid but people would have you believe his contract is a lead weight around the cubs neck. It's really not. He's making like $20-22 mil for the next several years. A 33 year old McCutchen got a 3 year $50 mil deal in the past offseason which is ~$16.7 mil a season. So, the 4/$86 mil for a 30 year old Heyward isn't that outrageous. The past 2 years McCutchen has put up 2.7 fWAR and 1.5 or roughly 2.1 fWAR a season. Heyward has put up roughly 2 fWAR the past 2 seasons.

Heyward is basically making about $5 mil more than market value for him a season. Obviously in an ideal world you wouldn't be over paying him but he would have been a tad more valuable last year if they would have been able to keep him in RF. He basically split 50/50 time in CF and RF and he was a -4.4 UZR in CF and a +5.3 in RF. Or conversely you could look at it as his value being more because if he hadn't played in CF you'd have Almora who was terrible last year.

 

[SilenceS]

Guess I would take it as a way to dump Heyward and get some pitching etc back.

I don't believe that they would because they are still in a window. This basic situation forces them to put out a winning product.

There was another one

Chicago Cubs Rumors: Would you do this Kris Bryant deal to the Dodgers?

Chicago Cubs Rumors: Kris Bryant has been in a lot of trades. Many, actually. Would you consider sending to the Dodgers for a package?

cubbiescrib.com

That one kinda makes sense.

Beck had it in another thread. I have truly believed it will be the Dodgers or we keep Bryant. I dont see anyone else offering up what we want and need for him.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Guess I would take it as a way to dump Heyward and get some pitching etc back.

I don't believe that they would because they are still in a window. This basic situation forces them to put out a winning product.

There was another one

Chicago Cubs Rumors: Would you do this Kris Bryant deal to the Dodgers?

Chicago Cubs Rumors: Kris Bryant has been in a lot of trades. Many, actually. Would you consider sending to the Dodgers for a package?

cubbiescrib.com

That one kinda makes sense.

Lux and Verdugo would actually be perfect fits. Then if you could move Contreras for a big arm or two we could be looking really good in 2021

 

[zack54attack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1198305605255081984

 

[CSF77]

Beck had it in another thread. I have truly believed it will be the Dodgers or we keep Bryant. I dont see anyone else offering up what we want and need for him.

I would get it if it was Lux at SS and Nico at 2B and Baez at 3B and extend Baez to a 10 year deal knowing 3B is less wear and tear on him going forward vs SS.

 

[CSF77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1198305605255081984

Depth move. 7.1 SO/9 is a bit low for my tastes.

But this is inline with the #5 being in competition and the losers being multi inning arms. He feels multi inning to me.

I believe Alozay is the front runner going in. Rae and Mills are fall back plans. This is more of a depth move.

 

[CSF77]

Lux and Verdugo would actually be perfect fits. Then if you could move Contreras for a big arm or two we could be looking really good in 2021

I don't like arming the enemy but this move would help the Cubs more so I'm ok.

Contreras is another issue all together. With Grandal off the market his market should start heating up.

But I wouldn't be shocked if more teams ask on Caratini because he is a more skilled catcher and his value is currently depressed due to being in Wilson's shadow.

Teams are always looking at situations like this where they can steal hidden gems. Wilson's value is inflated at the moment and teams know this fact.

 

[beckdawg]

Depth move. 7.1 SO/9 is a bit low for my tastes.

But this is inline with the #5 being in competition and the losers being multi inning arms. He feels multi inning to me.

I believe Alozay is the front runner going in. Rae and Mills are fall back plans. This is more of a depth move.

Cotton has good stuff. Obviously he was DFA'd for a reason but in the minors you're talking 10.2 k/9 and 2.6 bb/9. He's a guy I think you hope their pitch lab can work on. At the very least I think he's an interesting reliever option.

 

[Omeletpants]

I don't like arming the enemy but this move would help the Cubs more so I'm ok.

Contreras is another issue all together. With Grandal off the market his market should start heating up.

But I wouldn't be shocked if more teams ask on Caratini because he is a more skilled catcher and his value is currently depressed due to being in Wilson's shadow.

Teams are always looking at situations like this where they can steal hidden gems. Wilson's value is inflated at the moment and teams know this fact.

I would like to see Caratini lose 15 lbs, especially if he is going to be the every day catcher

 

[Castor76]

Here's another possible idea for trading Bryant. The Angels are going to be looking to make an impact. Money has them hard and heavy going after Garrett Cole and it makes sense. But with Joe now their manager, makes you wonder if he would mind a familiar face. The Angels have a top 100 CF prospect in their system. They also happen to have an all-time great currently there. Now they could slide someone to LF, but getting a former MVP still in his prime is a a big catch. Adell solves CF and possibly even lead off. Their other top 100 guy was Griffin Canning. He cracked the majors this year. Those two for Bryant might make a good deal.

 

[anotheridiot]

Cotton has good stuff. Obviously he was DFA'd for a reason but in the minors you're talking 10.2 k/9 and 2.6 bb/9. He's a guy I think you hope their pitch lab can work on. At the very least I think he's an interesting reliever option.

He almost was good enough to crack the Dodgers rotation, but they went for names, then he got hurt. He has not pitched in the majors for almost 2 years, last year lost after having hamstring surgery. Borderline rehab project, but he should be ready to go in March