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Interesting, Ive heard a different Padres pitcher...Michael King...either one would be a solid pickup
Cease is a FA after this season and his salary is 13.75 for this season.
 

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Caissie and Assad.

They have nothing in the works ATM but it would cost a top 100. Assad would make sense as he would gain a legit fan base here in San Diego. They love Mexican players. Plus born in TJ. That is a plus for the fan base that goes south of the border.
 

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Rumor is Preller is demanding Shaw

**** him. Cubs are not in a dire need situation where they give away all of their top 100 for rentals.

Hard no and **** Preller.

He wants Wicks and Assad then I can see that. 1 year to get Horton ready I get and those 2 are expendable.
 

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Cease is gaining traction.

Preller wants to shed to add a bat?

The highest deal that I would go with is a 3 for 1.

#1 has to be a top 100. Alcantara would start in LF on opening day. He has less current value to Caissie but might have a higher ceiling.

#2 is a MLB SP. Wicks and Assad should be on the table. Maybe both if the center piece is Alcantara. It deepens their rotation beyond King and Yu. Plus it removes payroll.

If Jed did this deal I am 100% fine with it. It pushes Brown into a late inning roll along side Hodge. Over all it puts the Cubs into October
 

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Dodgers fleeced the Cubs in the Busch trade. Cubs gave up Ferris and HOPE, and they are both currently listed as top 100 prospects in baseball now

meanwhile, cubs got a league average player at 1B...yay!
 

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Dodgers fleeced the Cubs in the Busch trade. Cubs gave up Ferris and HOPE, and they are both currently listed as top 100 prospects in baseball now

meanwhile, cubs got a league average player at 1B...yay!

We don't know that yet. Rookie years have little to do with a carrier trajectory.

11.1% walk rate. 28.6% SO rates are not bad for a first full year.

.322 BABIP is a bit high. Projections has that falling back to .305.

22 HR seems to be his projection.

So as a player it is not bad. As a 1B it leaves much to be desired.

I would wait a year. If he turns out expendable it is fine. Vlad Jr will be a F/A to lessen the pain from not paying Tucker.

TBH I would be fine with Them targeting Vlad Jr and moving Busch back to 2B. Those projections look solid at 2B.
 

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Dodgers fleeced the Cubs in the Busch trade. Cubs gave up Ferris and HOPE, and they are both currently listed as top 100 prospects in baseball now

meanwhile, cubs got a league average player at 1B...yay!
Wasn't he like the 9th best 1b last year as a rookie? That is a major win for guys that are still unproven.
 

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Wasn't he like the 9th best 1b last year as a rookie? That is a major win for guys that are still unproven.
If Busch is the 9th best 1B last year, I’d be curious as to what metric they gauge that by?

As that would be a sign that 1B is a bit weak in MLB currently

Also, let’s stop the whole, “for a rookie” narrative. While yes, he was a rookie…he’s 27 years old already. He isn’t some super young raw unfinished product. It’s much more likely that who he is is already here
 

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If Busch is the 9th best 1B last year, I’d be curious as to what metric they gauge that by?

As that would be a sign that 1B is a bit weak in MLB currently

Also, let’s stop the whole, “for a rookie” narrative. While yes, he was a rookie…he’s 27 years old already. He isn’t some super young raw unfinished product. It’s much more likely that who he is is already here
I was going off of fangraphs WAR. And yes even old rookies don'y play as if they are seasoned vets. If we can expect last years numbers for what we got in the trade, it is a good trade.
 

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I was going off of fangraphs WAR. And yes even old rookies don'y play as if they are seasoned vets. If we can expect last years numbers for what we got in the trade, it is a good trade.
not really, no. giving up 2 top 100 prospects for a 27 year old rookie Busch is not a good trade.

maybe ill be wrong and Busch will blow up this year...but i doubt it. thing is, he is likely at or near peak production as it is
 

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not really, no. giving up 2 top 100 prospects for a 27 year old rookie Busch is not a good trade.

maybe ill be wrong and Busch will blow up this year...but i doubt it. thing is, he is likely at or near peak production as it is
Yeah Busch is pretty meh and it was a bad trade if he doesn't improve. I wouldn't be against including him in a trade for pitching which would allow Ballesteros bat in the cubs lineup which I think will be an upgrade from busch.
 

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Yeah Busch is pretty meh and it was a bad trade if he doesn't improve. I wouldn't be against including him in a trade for pitching which would allow Ballesteros bat in the cubs lineup which I think will be an upgrade from busch.
busch is appealing only due to him hitting left handed. cubs could still use that left handed bat, but id prefer it be of better quality
 

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busch is appealing only due to him hitting left handed. cubs could still use that left handed bat, but id prefer it be of better quality
Luckily Ballestroes is a lefty too! Problem solved. Bye bye Busch.

I do think Ballestroes has potential to be a very good bat. He's just blocked by Busch at 1b, Suzuki at dh and Amaya a C. Idk that he can play C everyday at the big league level, so he probably either gets traded or you could move Busch to make room for him. (I also didn't realize he's only 5'8" apparently but his bat is going to be good)
 

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Cubs put a 4 year offer out to Bregman. Seems to be front loaded with opt out options every year.

They, basically, got creative and offered a similar contract without the length and his ability to have options.
 

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Cubs have made some under the radar moves that I think are really going to pan out.

This is the best off season in 10 years.
I think if the cubs get bregman and trade Hoerner which sounds like it may happen the cubs will be really fun to watch next year. But jed is also creating a 1 year window (in his contract year) but also doesn't appear to have financial flexibility to also add a TOR guy to truly be able to compete in this 1 year window
 

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not really, no. giving up 2 top 100 prospects for a 27 year old rookie Busch is not a good trade.

maybe ill be wrong and Busch will blow up this year...but i doubt it. thing is, he is likely at or near peak production as it is
I don't think you realize how rare it is for a top 100 prospect to become a top ten at their position, which is what we need to compare to Busch as that is what he is.
 

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