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I still remember when Peyton Manning had concerns going into the draft lol
If I remember correctly it was pretty heavily debated whether him or Ryan leaf should go #1, right?I still remember when Peyton Manning had concerns going into the draft lol
I remember a LOT of people on these forums were high on Mac after his rookie year.His takes on Mac Jones are comical.
He’s so awful
He's GENERATIONAL. Just like Trevor Lawrence.I mean the thing is there are plenty of valid criticisms of Caleb Williams.
The idea that he can't play within an offense is just stupid and can be disproved by simply watching any of his games beyond his highlights. Now, you can argue he needs to play more within the offense. That's valid, and sometimes he's going to have to work on in the NFL. But to say he doesn't run an offense or for some reason isn't capable of running an offense is just dumb. It means all you've done is watch his highlights.
He has all the same question marks as all QBs do when it comes to transitioning from a simple college offense to an NFL offense and in terms of his ability to diagnose and read defenses.
He's also a uniquely talented passer, as good a pure passer as has entered the draft in a long time.
Wasn't it Orlovsky who had Fields pegged as an MVP candidate before the season began?
It's a rather large book, dude. Ain't nobody gots time fo dat!Why don’t you check your Fields burn book?!
Gotcha. I was genuinely curious with so many "experts" out there these days.He said he thought Fields would play MVP like football this year but not that he'd actually be in the actual MVP race.
Only by the media reallyIf I remember correctly it was pretty heavily debated whether him or Ryan leaf should go #1, right?
Yes but he was still high on him during this yearI remember a LOT of people on these forums were high on Mac after his rookie year.
TruthWasn't it Orlovsky who had Fields pegged as an MVP candidate before the season began?
Very true.This is why I don’t listen to pundits, whether their views align with my own or not. They’re so clearly full of shit.
He didn’t say that. He said Justin would be in the discussionTruth
He had Justin as an MVP.
Same guy who said Fields would be in the MVP conversation this season. Fields is looking more and more like Marcus Mariotta at this point
I’ve never really cared for his takes and I still don’t.
This is why I don’t listen to pundits, whether their views align with my own or not. They’re so clearly full of shit.
Manning the better QB...........Leaf the more athletic QB. Great college quarterbacks between the white lines. These QB's are a perfect example of why it so important for GMs to go beyond just what they see on tape.If I remember correctly it was pretty heavily debated whether him or Ryan leaf should go #1, right?
He probably had a different opinion every week based on how Fields playedWasn't it Orlovsky who had Fields pegged as an MVP candidate before the season began?
I think Caleb is like Field's, in that they are both great athletics, but hold the ball too long. Maybe waiting for the perfect play to develop, or wanting to go deep all the time? I think they are both slow at processing and making good decisions. Then when the play breaks down, they get sacked, or escape and make an incredible play. I agree with Dan, 90% on his take. Justin had all day, at OSU, to make a throw. There is not that much time in the NFL, even with a good offensive line.I mean the thing is there are plenty of valid criticisms of Caleb Williams.
The idea that he can't play within an offense is just stupid and can be disproved by simply watching any of his games beyond his highlights. Now, you can argue he needs to play more within the offense. That's valid, and sometimes he's going to have to work on in the NFL. But to say he doesn't run an offense or for some reason isn't capable of running an offense is just dumb. It means all you've done is watch his highlights.
He has all the same question marks as all QBs do when it comes to transitioning from a simple college offense to an NFL offense and in terms of his ability to diagnose and read defenses.
He's also a uniquely talented passer, as good a pure passer as has entered the draft in a long time.
After the Bryce Young debacle, I really don't see anybody giving away the farm for Caleb.While no GMs decision is going to be based on Orlovsky, there are valid criticisms of him. Orlovsky does bring some up and they are probably concerns to teams.
Williams has incredible deep accuracy when he has time to throw. There is no question about it and he will most likely be drafted 1 by someone unless there is some massive behind the scenes issues with negotiations.
Williams isn't slow at processing. That is an objective fact. What you'll see from him continuously is going through his progressions on time and choosing to pass on the layups (sometimes) to hold on for a bigger opportunity.I think Caleb is like Field's, in that they are both great athletics, but hold the ball too long. Maybe waiting for the perfect play to develop, or wanting to go deep all the time? I think they are both slow at processing and making good decisions. Then when the play breaks down, they get sacked, or escape and make an incredible play. I agree with Dan, 90% on his take. Justin had all day, at OSU, to make a throw. There is not that much time in the NFL, even with a good offensive line.