OT: Justin Fields’ Destination Thread, Steelers and other teams reportedly want him to sign new multi-year contract

[Moses Moreno]

Is it clear? To me, they just want someone who can compete with him, doesn't matter style.

Maybe you mean something else?

Just in terms of caliber of player.

No matter what, Indy is going to prefer Richardson because of the contract situation. Somebody is going to go there and they'll have a chance to play on a decent to good situation but they'll always give the reigns back to Richardson to justify their drafting of him..

Fields and Darnold are going to go to a landing spot where they're unquestionably the guy next year and have a great shot at being it long-term. The demand is high and the QB market is lackluster.

 

[Payton34Sayers40]

It’s becoming clear that this is turning into a Fields market. In a copycat league it also helps that a QB like Jalen Hurts just won the Super Bowl. In many ways, Fields has the potential to be better than Jalen Hurts — he just needs proper coaching. It also helps that Caleb Williams put the Bears QB development dysfunction on full display last season — in case anyone forgot.

From the looks of it, Fields will be able to come in as QB1 in:
1. Pittsburgh
2. One or possibly both NY teams
3. Possibly the Raiders
4. Possibly the Rams
5. Possibly the Saints
6. And I am likely forgetting someone (the Browns maybe?) and I am sure another team will emerge.

JFields bout ta get paid!!!

Crash out on that haters

 

[dennehy]

Just in terms of caliber of player.

No matter what, Indy is going to prefer Richardson because of the contract situation. Somebody is going to go there and they'll have a chance to play on a decent to good situation but they'll always give the reigns back to Richardson to justify their drafting of him..

Fields and Darnold are going to go to a landing spot where they're unquestionably the guy next year and have a great shot at being it long-term. The demand is high and the QB market is lackluster.

Gotta imagine Ballard is on the hot seat though. I think rolling with Richardson as 1, even as 1A, is really risky for him. I think essentially criticizing the QB in public is a pretty signfiicant indication that he doesn't like him, even if it was worded less harshly. They also have a decent amount of cap space.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

It’s becoming clear that this is turning into a Fields market. In a copycat league it also helps that a QB like Jalen Hurts just won the Super Bowl. In many ways, Fields has the potential to be better than Jalen Hurts — he just needs proper coaching. It also helps that Caleb Williams put the Bears QB development dysfunction on full display last season — in case anyone forgot.

From the looks of it, Fields will be able to come in as QB1 in:
1. Pittsburgh
2. One or possibly both NY teams
3. Possibly the Raiders
4. Possibly the Rams
5. Possibly the Saints
6. And I am likely forgetting someone (the Browns maybe?) and I am sure another team will emerge.

JFields bout ta get paid!!!

Crash out on that haters

There is no fields haters here. Only people that don't have the same undying defense of him as you do. Quit being weird

 

[DefNextYear]

He's a fan now and made it extremely clear in the season that he preferred Justin over Russell.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1889743576298303743

With that wording it's pretty clear they won't be in the Fields market but they'll be going after a Winston type.

Is he a fan? If so, lots of good that did him. He got benched and the team didn’t even make a strong push to extend him. Also, “preference” doesn’t mean he’s a fan. I can say if you prefer to lose 1000 bucks or 2000 bucks… the answer doesn’t mean you’re a fan of losing money.

As for the tweet, I’d say the exact opposite. I think that tweet means Fields can go there and take the job. Ballard can actually save his job, even with a bust, if he finds the replacement. It’s very short sighted to dig your feet in, with no alternative option, and pray to the heavens it works out. That’s what gets your fired. That’s like saying the Niners should’ve have given up on Lance for Purdy. No one cares that they did. Colts represent as good an option as it can be for Fields.

 

[Payton34Sayers40]

Give Fields Philly’s Oline and weapons, and I believe he is better than JHurts without a doubt. Bigger, stronger, faster, better arm, better natural thrower of the football. Hurts has ALL-DAY behind that massive line. From Day 1 Fields has always had to run for his life. That continued in Pitt with that makeshift Oline.

Moreover, Fields could only dream about having the weapons and support that Caleb had last season — lest we forgot that for much of his time here, Mooney was his best and, pretty much, only weapon. Fricken Mooney — a 2 or a 3 was his #1.

 

[Payton34Sayers40]

Steelers Have Major Competition for Justin Fields

The Pittsburgh Steelers may face heavy competition as they look to retain Justin Fields. The 25-year-old has always felt more likely than Russell Wilson to ret

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Once Fields hits free agency in March, however, all bets are off. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, he's already generating quite the market.

“Returning to Pittsburgh remains a possibility for Russell Wilson, as it does for Justin Fields, the other (Steelers) quarterback,” Schefter said on Postseason NFL Countdown. “The Steelers have made it very clear they’d like to bring back one of those two quarterbacks. They’ve spoken to Russell. They’ll be talking to Justin Fields, but there will be a market for Justin Fields. A number of teams (are) interested in him and we’ll see whether or not that includes Pittsburgh in his future.”

 

[Moses Moreno]

Is he a fan? If so, lots of good that did him. He got benched and the team didn’t even make a strong push to extend him. Also, “preference” doesn’t mean he’s a fan. I can say if you prefer to lose 1000 bucks or 2000 bucks… the answer doesn’t mean you’re a fan of losing money.

As for the tweet, I’d say the exact opposite. I think that tweet means Fields can go there and take the job. Ballard can actually save his job, even with a bust, if he finds the replacement. It’s very short sighted to dig your feet in, with no alternative option, and pray to the heavens it works out. That’s what gets your fired. That’s like saying the Niners should’ve have given up on Lance for Purdy. No one cares that they did. Colts represent as good an option as it can be for Fields.

I'm not going to dig through the quotes or articles but there's a lot out there regarding Smith's thoughts on the Steelers offense. The Steelers beat think that Fields is option A right now - so we'll see if they come to terms. Personally the Steelers are a good fit in the sense that he'll pretty much always be playing meaningful football which isn't something he was doing much while here - but from a development standpoint and cash standpoint he might be better served going elsewhere.

And you're 100% that it could save Ballard's job but the reality is - they'd have to give Fields more money and more of an opportunity than what he'd be able to get elsewhere and given the market - I don't see them being the highest bidder on what most publications think is the second most coveted QB on the market. And from Fields perspective - given there are going to be so many open jobs - why choose the one with the dude on the roster who's physical ceiling matches yours? You go where you have a coaching staff that sees a future for their franchise with you as the dude for it. From a fit - it absolutely makes sense but Richardson looms too large for a marriage to happen there.

One thing that Breer said yesterday that I can't figure out - the Rams are looking to potentially move on from Stafford to get younger at the position to fit the rest of the their core. Who the hell are they targeting?

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[TL1961]

"Bigger, faster, better arm".....

It is abundantly clear that we have a couple posters who will simply never learn that QB play is far more than the physical.

I just watched a clip of Brady today where he discusses that he "never snapped the ball without knowing what WR would be open". Fields snaps the ball and tries to look for guys, and fails at it. He has no clue pre-snap what the D will do.

I would like to see him mature and develop. If he succeeds somewhere, good for him. But let's be realistic.

We have two posters here who repeatedly tell us "it's clear Fields will be the guy" at his next stop (though every GM in the NFL has indicated the opposite) and "Fields is better" than the Super Bowl MVP!

And they think those who have seen and evaluated realistically are nothing but "haters'.

Nothing that happens in front of their eyes has swayed them. Clearly nothing we say will either.

 

[TL1961]

I'm not going to dig through the quotes or articles but there's a lot out there regarding Smith's thoughts on the Steelers offense. The Steelers beat think that Fields is option A right now - so we'll see if they come to terms. Personally the Steelers are a good fit in the sense that he'll pretty much always be playing meaningful football which isn't something he was doing much while here - but from a development standpoint and cash standpoint he might be better served going elsewhere.

And you're 100% that it could save Ballard's job but the reality is - they'd have to give Fields more money and more of an opportunity than what he'd be able to get elsewhere and given the market - I don't see them being the highest bidder on what most publications think is the second most coveted QB on the market. And from Fields perspective - given there are going to be so many open jobs - why choose the one with the dude on the roster who's physical ceiling matches yours? You go where you have a coaching staff that sees a future for their franchise with you as the dude for it. From a fit - it absolutely makes sense but Richardson looms too large for a marriage to happen there.

One thing that Breer said yesterday that I can't figure out - the Rams are looking to potentially move on from Stafford to get younger at the position to fit the rest of the their core. Who the hell are they targeting?

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The Steelers are a good fit only in the sense that they try to win games with their defense, not their offense.

 

[baselman1974]

"Bigger, faster, better arm".....

It is abundantly clear that we have a couple posters who will simply never learn that QB play is far more than the physical.

I just watched a clip of Brady today where he discusses that he "never snapped the ball without knowing what WR would be open". Fields snaps the ball and tries to look for guys, and fails at it. He has no clue pre-snap what the D will do.

I would like to see him mature and develop. If he succeeds somewhere, good for him. But let's be realistic.

We have two posters here who repeatedly tell us "it's clear Fields will be the guy" at his next stop (though every GM in the NFL has indicated the opposite) and "Fields is better" than the Super Bowl MVP!

And they think those who have seen and evaluated realistically are nothing but "haters'.

Nothing that happens in front of their eyes has swayed them. Clearly nothing we say will either.

It took Brady 6 years to be Tom Brady. He didn’t hit over 4000 passing yards in a season until his 6th season in 2005. His numbers were good but we as fans weren’t saying he was the GOAT at that time. NE Defenses , and good running contributed more to first 3 SBs.

The tuck rule helped Brady against the Raiders. That was a fumble.

 

[DefNextYear]

I'm not going to dig through the quotes or articles but there's a lot out there regarding Smith's thoughts on the Steelers offense. The Steelers beat think that Fields is option A right now - so we'll see if they come to terms. Personally the Steelers are a good fit in the sense that he'll pretty much always be playing meaningful football which isn't something he was doing much while here - but from a development standpoint and cash standpoint he might be better served going elsewhere.

And you're 100% that it could save Ballard's job but the reality is - they'd have to give Fields more money and more of an opportunity than what he'd be able to get elsewhere and given the market - I don't see them being the highest bidder on what most publications think is the second most coveted QB on the market. And from Fields perspective - given there are going to be so many open jobs - why choose the one with the dude on the roster who's physical ceiling matches yours? You go where you have a coaching staff that sees a future for their franchise with you as the dude for it. From a fit - it absolutely makes sense but Richardson looms too large for a marriage to happen there.

One thing that Breer said yesterday that I can't figure out - the Rams are looking to potentially move on from Stafford to get younger at the position to fit the rest of the their core. Who the hell are they targeting?

2025 NFL Free Agents

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www.spotrac.com

You're not wrong in that he'd have to beat out Richardson, but we know he will. The Colts have shown over and over that they lack confidence in Richardson. The only reason they still have him is they have no alternative. It's not if, but when... but you're right... If he picks a place with an open job, he's going to get a chance no matter what. However, those jobs mostly suck. The Colts can be an all around great opportunity when you bundle an offensive minded coach, who coached Hurts to a hell of a year... plenty of weapons with JT and tons of talented WRs... a decent OL (top 15)... borderline playoff team. The gamble would pay off there in my opinion.

No clue about the Rams, but they're in rebuild mode. I'd not be surprised if they flat out tank for a QB from the next class and give away players for anything they can get. If they can get anything like what they Jets gave for Rodgers, they'll be alright.

 

[inchibearfan]

I do not understand the obsession with a former Bears now backup QB.

 

[TL1961]

I believe I just read a post in which someone is suggesting Justin Fields is like a young Tom Brady. There’s no point in going on in this discussion.

 

[Moses Moreno]

I do not understand the obsession with a former Bears now backup QB.

Most of this thread is talking about the QB market across the NFL. He just happens to be a free agent this off-season and there's interest from some posters, including myself in where people wind up.

I believe I just read a post in which someone is suggesting Justin Fields is like a young Tom Brady. There’s no point in going on in this discussion.

Nobody is saying he's Tom fucking Brady - just that Tom Brady needed to DEVELOP to become Tom Brady. And absolutely - if you're unable to comprehend that simple point you probably should sit this and most threads out. But rather than a weirdo dipshit I'll just ask you this - include Rodgers, Kirk and Stafford and go through that Spotrac list of QBs and let's see you rank the FAs as both short-term (1 year) and longer term (the next 3 years).

You're not wrong in that he'd have to beat out Richardson, but we know he will. The Colts have shown over and over that they lack confidence in Richardson. The only reason they still have him is they have no alternative. It's not if, but when... but you're right... If he picks a place with an open job, he's going to get a chance no matter what. However, those jobs mostly suck. The Colts can be an all around great opportunity when you bundle an offensive minded coach, who coached Hurts to a hell of a year... plenty of weapons with JT and tons of talented WRs... a decent OL (top 15)... borderline playoff team. The gamble would pay off there in my opinion.

No clue about the Rams, but they're in rebuild mode. I'd not be surprised if they flat out tank for a QB from the next class and give away players for anything they can get. If they can get anything like what they Jets gave for Rodgers, they'll be alright.

I think Pitt (they'll always be good), Vegas (I like what Carroll has done for QBs' confidence in the past + scheme fit + intriguing weapons), Jets (good defense, intriguing weapons) and Rams (elite coaching, elite weapons) are all as good of landing spots without the worry of major competition.

I highly doubt the Rams look to tank - they took the Eagles to the limit in the playoffs and if it's just Kupp and Stafford they're replacing - they'll probably be fine because McVey is a damn genius. But I can't get a read on who they're comfortable with if they are in fact looking to get younger at QB but still stay competitive.

 

[--CyBear--]

I said when it happened that I didn’t understand why anyone thought the Steelers would be a good place for Fields. Weapons kinda suck... Tomlin turned over his entire QB room cause he didn't help develop anyone... and I don't like Arthur Smith either. Also, Arthur Smith reportedly didn't even like Fields before.

Fields apparently wanted there. Now, that was before they signed Wilson but even that had Fields sitting behind the man he claimed he modelled his game after. Maybe he just likes Tomlin and who knows, perhaps his game will be better next time we see him. He hasn't played since Wilson started and JF got to see it 1st hand.

I know some will say that Wilson played worse that Fields due to record but he didn't. He just ran into buzzsaw schedule at the end of the year. Eagles, Raven, Chiefs and Bengals. Wilson lost to 1 under 500 team in 9 games and Fields lost to 2 of those in 8. Too close overall to claim one was much better than the other but Wilson did not play worse, (I thought he played better overall) even though some will point to their records as proof.

 

[--CyBear--]

Just in terms of caliber of player.

No matter what, Indy is going to prefer Richardson because of the contract situation. Somebody is going to go there and they'll have a chance to play on a decent to good situation but they'll always give the reigns back to Richardson to justify their drafting of him..

Fields and Darnold are going to go to a landing spot where they're unquestionably the guy next year and have a great shot at being it long-term. The demand is high and the QB market is lackluster.

If they sign a QB for $8-9m per and 3 years, he's making the same as Richardson for the same duration. Justin is currently projected to sign for between $8 and $9m per. They could have both with a still cheap QB room, let it playout and retain one with a 2nd contract when the time comes. Would also be a good fit in terms of style of play. It would be great to have 3 guys with almost equal amounts of minutes inside.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1890026847645434086

 

[Zvbxrpl]

Some of these continued defenses for Justin Fields are just pathetic...

We get it, the guy was likable. We all wanted him to do great here (except @ILoveDick), and it didn't work out. It's okay to admit it.

But now, all of a sudden, if you put him where Hurts was, he'd be better than the guy who just won a SB? Nonsense.

The guy's about to be on his 3rd team in 5 years for a reason. If he’s so good, why hasn’t Pittsburgh locked him up?

It's not because he got screwed. It's not because the league has it out for him. There's no conspiracy--Fields has proven nothing as a starting QB in the NFL. He's had ample opportunity, and yeah--when the stars align, he can sling a beautiful deep ball or make your jaw drop with a 50 yard TD run, but the former just didn't happen enough.

The OL sucked here, true--but he also had plays where he had time and the open guy and he just didn't see it. We could see it and say it with Mitch, but we can’t do it with Fields why?

 

[Moses Moreno]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1890026847645434086

I mean, Luka just got stolen from Dallas so it's worth a call.

Some of these continued defenses for Justin Fields are just pathetic...

We get it, the guy was likable. We all wanted him to do great here (except @ILoveDick), and it didn't work out. It's okay to admit it.

But now, all of a sudden, if you put him where Hurts was, he'd be better than the guy who just won a SB? Nonsense.

The guy's about to be on his 3rd team in 5 years for a reason. If he’s so good, why hasn’t Pittsburgh locked him up?

It's not because he got screwed. It's not because the league has it out for him. There's no conspiracy--Fields has proven nothing as a starting QB in the NFL. He's had ample opportunity, and yeah--when the stars align, he can sling a beautiful deep ball or make your jaw drop with a 50 yard TD run, but the former just didn't happen enough.

The OL sucked here, true--but he also had plays where he had time and the open guy and he just didn't see it. We could see it and say it with Mitch, but we can’t do it with Fields why?

Mitch got 4 years and clearly regressed from year 2-3 and clearly had less physical abilities.

Fields is 8-4 in his last 12 starts - with Russ the Steelers went 6-5 and the Bears went 5-12 with Caleb. Want to know why Justin and Caleb sucked? Because the interior of the offensive line has been dismal and they were young QBs who at the time hadn't fully figured the NFL game out yet.

Fields is going to have a strong market this off-season because he's got a load of talent and there's not a lot of viable options on the market but a whole lot of teams looking to get a new QB.