OT: Justin Fields Signs With NY Jets, Darnold/Seahawks, Stafford/Rams, Geno Smith/Raiders, Carr/Saints

[Moses Moreno]

Good. He should and I hope he does but it doesn't change the past.

Two things make up a players trade value:
1. Their perceived value around the league
2. The pricetag their team puts on them

The cost for Fields last off-season was too high - it's in part because of both 1 & 2 but the fanbase only wants to talk about 1 because 2 makes the Bears look bad.

Rams, Steelers, Vikings among teams with QB questions heading into 2025 NFL offseason

Good article on the QB market - doubt Rodgers wants to do all of the work of going through OTAs in NY so I could see them moving on. No team is trading for Kirk and ATL would be stupid to keep him - I'd bet that one of those two guys winds up with the Steelers if & when they hit FA.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Two things make up a players trade value:
1. Their perceived value around the league
2. The pricetag their team puts on them

The cost for Fields last off-season was too high - it's in part because of both 1 & 2 but the fanbase only wants to talk about 1 because 2 makes the Bears look bad.

Rams, Steelers, Vikings among teams with QB questions heading into 2025 NFL offseason

Good article on the QB market - doubt Rodgers wants to do all of the work of going through OTAs in NY so I could see them moving on. No team is trading for Kirk and ATL would be stupid to keep him - I'd bet that one of those two guys winds up with the Steelers if & when they hit FA.

The biggest thing that impacts a players trade value/market is the available supply which was the biggest issue in trading fields last year. There was at least 3 qbs that teams preferred in FA and another 6 that teams preferred un the draft, so obviously there wasn't much market for fields unfortunately

 

[--CyBear--]

Two things make up a players trade value:
1. Their perceived value around the league
2. The pricetag their team puts on them

The cost for Fields last off-season was too high - it's in part because of both 1 & 2 but the fanbase only wants to talk about 1 because 2 makes the Bears look bad.

Rams, Steelers, Vikings among teams with QB questions heading into 2025 NFL offseason

Good article on the QB market - doubt Rodgers wants to do all of the work of going through OTAs in NY so I could see them moving on. No team is trading for Kirk and ATL would be stupid to keep him - I'd bet that one of those two guys winds up with the Steelers if & when they hit FA.

The price is what the market will Bear. Original (rumored) asking price doesn't matter especially by the time Pitt traded for him which was within 2 days of the Cousins , Wilson, Darnold, Brissett and Minshew signings. All these teams had plenty of time to negotiate like the Steelers. I also thought he had at least a 3rd round value (hoping for more) and Poles took less to accommodate him.

Wright or wrong. teams did not see him as a long term solution and that part I understand. For him to be most effective (based on previous play), you're running an option O and if you want to establish a system for a heir apparent it would be better to do so with a guy that's more proficient in what you want to run which is a lot less option in most of the NFL. I suspect his reluctance to throw to open guys in the middle of the field consistently on time was also an issue in the film rooms. Mooney's production of last year would indicate that your take on where that issue lied was a bit off base.

The problem was more perennial starter projection than his ability to play. I think he'll get another shot to start somewhere and I hope his OC runs something appropriate to take advantage of what he does well but his return on investment had nothing to do with asking price. Lay off that excuse as it's simply a lame argument.

He played better in Pitt with a better team around him so it should improve his value. Will be fun to see where he goes and what he gets paid. I hope it's somewhere that has a proficient versatile OC and he's the #1.

 

[Moses Moreno]

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Steeler. Gotta think they'd take Adams too.

And with that - another potential landing spot for Fields in New York. His best games (outside of 2022 @ Detroit) happened against the Lions and Wilson and him have chemistry. They're clearly not going to go for Darnold and aren't exactly in a spot to draft one.

 

[Payton34Sayers40]

There is speculation that the Rams may now be in the mix. That is a new one - completely off radar - that offers a lot of intrigue. I can see their coach truly unlocking JFields — could be a monster under him.

Yet another reason to slow play the Steelers. Keep that door open but be open to what else is out there.

 

[GoDJtop10]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1888659312526127389

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Steeler. Gotta think they'd take Adams too.

And with that - another potential landing spot for Fields in New York. His best games (outside of 2022 @ Detroit) happened against the Lions and Wilson and him have chemistry. They're clearly not going to go for Darnold and aren't exactly in a spot to draft one.

Also, the new head coach for the Jets was the DC for the Lions when Fields was terrorizing them.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

There is speculation that the Rams may now be in the mix. That is a new one - completely off radar - that offers a lot of intrigue. I can see their coach truly unlocking JFields — could be a monster under him.

Yet another reason to slow play the Steelers. Keep that door open but be open to what else is out there.

He'd be smart to go somewhere like that and learn from a great coach while backing up Stafford instead of going somewhere like the Jets with a new OC and bad organization to completely bury his career

 

[DefNextYear]

He'd be smart to go somewhere like that and learn from a great coach while backing up Stafford instead of going somewhere like the Jets with a new OC and bad organization to completely bury his career

Yea, and in an offense that doesn't play to his strengths. They'd probably need to re-envision the offense that they had in Detroit.

The next stop for Fields will be a massive factor in the direction of his career. It is definitely a high risk to place that trust in a new OC that never called plays or developed anyone.

 

[Moses Moreno]

Yea, and in an offense that doesn't play to his strengths. They'd probably need to re-envision the offense that they had in Detroit.

The next stop for Fields will be a massive factor in the direction of his career. It is definitely a high risk to place that trust in a new OC that never called plays or developed anyone.

The Raiders are the obvious best fit to me - IMO they're not paying Chip Kelly $6m/yr to pay Sam Darnold $40m/yr.

I agree with y'all on the fit with the Jets OC but Hall, Wilson, Allen, the PSU LT they drafted last year and they'll probably go offense in the first round again - that's not exactly the worst situation in the NFL. They'd be shedding so much with the Rodgers and Adams contracts that the initial expectations for that team would be low -meaning they'd most likely have to offer more years to entice somebody.

 

[DefNextYear]

The Raiders are the obvious best fit to me - IMO they're not paying Chip Kelly $6m/yr to pay Sam Darnold $40m/yr.

I agree with y'all on the fit with the Jets OC but Hall, Wilson, Allen, the PSU LT they drafted last year and they'll probably go offense in the first round again - that's not exactly the worst situation in the NFL. They'd be shedding so much with the Rodgers and Adams contracts that the initial expectations for that team would be low -meaning they'd most likely have to offer more years to entice somebody.

All things considered, I think the Colts still. I think he'd displace Richardson at some point, if not immediately. Raiders are difficult for me to gauge cause they changed so much. Considering the options, they probably do rank pretty high on appeal. Maybe the OSU ties help him and Chip get together.

 

[Toast88]

Rodgers to the Steelers isn’t possible. They’re already going to give a multi-year deal to Wilson/Fields, or something.

I can’t wait for Fields to prove everyone wrong and launch himself into superstardom at his next stop! Wherever that is!!

 

[Payton34Sayers40]

He'd be smart to go somewhere like that and learn from a great coach while backing up Stafford instead of going somewhere like the Jets with a new OC and bad organization to completely bury his career

Nah, he is a starter. The spec was that the Rams are moving on from Stafford and JF would come in as starter. JF had his red-shirt year this past season - where he goes next he will be QB1.

Flushing that idea out fully, the Rams would likely be just another team boosting his stock, driving up his price - I doubt JF signs there. Like Moses M pointed out, his best fit will likely be the Raiders — or the Colts if they decide to move on from ARich.

 

[GoDJtop10]

Nah, he is a starter. The spec was that the Rams are moving on from Stafford and JF would come in as starter. JF had his red-shirt year this past season - where he goes next he will be QB1.

Flushing that idea out fully, the Rams would likely be just another team boosting his stock, driving up his price - I doubt JF signs there. Like Moses M pointed out, his best fit will likely be the Raiders — or the Colts if they decide to move on from ARich.

Most of these guys here are still carrying their “We Hate Justin Fields” battle flag from 2023/2024, so they want to continue their talking point that Justin is only good enough to be a career backup.

This thread that’s clearly signaling that Fields will be a NFL starting quarterback on a brand new multi-year contract next season is making some of these people crash out LOL.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Nah, he is a starter. The spec was that the Rams are moving on from Stafford and JF would come in as starter. JF had his red-shirt year this past season - where he goes next he will be QB1.

Flushing that idea out fully, the Rams would likely be just another team boosting his stock, driving up his price - I doubt JF signs there. Like Moses M pointed out, his best fit will likely be the Raiders — or the Colts if they decide to move on from ARich.

Colts aren't moving on from Richardson. If Fields goes there, he'll take the job in season.

Raiders would be an okay option for him, but I don't see Brady wanting to bring him in. Brady emphasized the importance of pre snap recognition recently and fields struggles mightily in that regard. I could be wrong on what the Raiders will do though, well see in about a month.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Most of these guys here are still carrying their “We Hate Justin Fields” battle flag from 2023/2024, so they want to continue their talking point that Justin is only good enough to be a career backup.

This thread that’s clearly signaling that Fields will be a NFL starting quarterback on a brand new multi-year contract next season is making some of these people crash out LOL.

You're a fucking loser and are busy gargling fields man juices and have no clue of reality. You've blocked out the last year plus of what has happened to create a delusional safe space. Stfu.

 

[GoDJtop10]

You're a fucking loser and are busy gargling fields man juices and have no clue of reality. You've blocked out the last year plus of what has happened to create a delusional safe space. Stfu.

Your troll game is weak as ****

 

[Moses Moreno]

Colts aren't moving on from Richardson. If Fields goes there, he'll take the job in season.

Raiders would be an okay option for him, but I don't see Brady wanting to bring him in. Brady emphasized the importance of pre snap recognition recently and fields struggles mightily in that regard. I could be wrong on what the Raiders will do though, well see in about a month.

I wonder if Brady believes that this is a skill that can be developed.

And if we're looking at Fields' tenure, the 2024 Bears season and last night's Super Bowl - there's one commonality throughout it: you will not get competent QB play with an OL that's consistently overwhelmed. The best QB of this generation looked like Fields/Caleb at their worst because that's what happens when the DL causes an insane pressure rate. No pre snap recognition could save Mahomes last night and it wasn't his fault.

 

[Les Grossman]

Rodgers to the Steelers isn’t possible. They’re already going to give a multi-year deal to Wilson/Fields, or something.

I can’t wait for Fields to prove everyone wrong and launch himself into superstardom at his next stop! Wherever that is!!

Steelers are the early betting favorites for the next Aaron Rodgers destination

Pittsburgh, Tennessee currently make the most sense.

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[--CyBear--]

I suspect Fields returns to the Steelers but whether he starts for them is another issue. I could see the Steelers sign him and be OK with him being the #1 but continue shopping for someone like Rodgers.

 

[DefNextYear]

I suspect Fields returns to the Steelers but whether he starts for them is another issue. I could see the Steelers sign him and be OK with him being the #1 but continue shopping for someone like Rodgers.

Anyone that takes any of these available QBs should be thinking they need to continue shopping. The exception could be Darnold, given the money he can get… but I’d still draft a QB given the history there.