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man..this entire era has just gone down the drain..i dont even know what to think now. Is any superstar clean now? I want to believe my boy Pujols is but who knows
man..this entire era has just gone down the drain..i dont even know what to think now. Is any superstar clean now? I want to believe my boy Pujols is but who knows
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I don't know, I actually believe the guy. As he's said, they've been testing for awhile now and he's always been clean, so I give him a little credibility.
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Gammons just said it wasn't steroids but a medical thing. He prescribed a drug by a doc that was on the banned substances list. He could take it if he had permission but apparently he didn't. Funny, you would think he would be a stickler for the details.
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ryguy24 wrote:
I don't buy it really. Why would you see anyone but a team physician? Why would you not run past anything you were taking with people in baseball? How many people have been busted for "stuff they didn't know about" now? The list is long enough that you'd find out before taking something I would think.
You place one call to your agent, and that's done for you. A superstar just knows better at this point.
I don't buy it really. Why would you see anyone but a team physician? Why would you not run past anything you were taking with people in baseball? How many people have been busted for "stuff they didn't know about" now? The list is long enough that you'd find out before taking something I would think.
You place one call to your agent, and that's done for you. A superstar just knows better at this point.
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Re:OT: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for juicin
anyone who believes him is completely insane. he passed the drug test first, and then they found evidence of him getting it, you know what that means? he tried to cover it up, there is nothing innocent about this. this was trying to cheat,and nothing else.
anyone who believes him is completely insane. he passed the drug test first, and then they found evidence of him getting it, you know what that means? he tried to cover it up, there is nothing innocent about this. this was trying to cheat,and nothing else.
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Re:OT: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for juicin
Pujols your next
I know you may bash me but trust me he will get caught soon.
Pujols your next
I know you may bash me but trust me he will get caught soon.
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Re:OT: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for juicin
P.S.
This suspension will cost Manny 8 million.
P.S.
This suspension will cost Manny 8 million.
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Re:OT: Manny Ramirez suspended 50 games for juicin
Yah it must not be something his Dr. just gave him he got 50 games, is that a 1st time offense standard?
Oh by the way Newskool had to sign off the other day, but yah I guess we are two of the only Bulls fan's left in New York. It was funny how many there were during the early 90's, now they are all Lakers fan's, pathetic. At least the Knicks suck now so I don't here it from my friends anymore, the Bulls will still get another Chip before they do, ha.
Yah it must not be something his Dr. just gave him he got 50 games, is that a 1st time offense standard?
Oh by the way Newskool had to sign off the other day, but yah I guess we are two of the only Bulls fan's left in New York. It was funny how many there were during the early 90's, now they are all Lakers fan's, pathetic. At least the Knicks suck now so I don't here it from my friends anymore, the Bulls will still get another Chip before they do, ha.
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Hendu0520 wrote:
Sorry to go OT, but yeah I live in Queens and people think I am a scout for the Bulls because they see me with all there gear lol. I kind of loved when we were bad because all thoke fake fans left.
As for Manny what he took seems to be a masking agent, weird how he wont appeal. Unlike JC Romero who was hell bent on proving he was innocent.
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Sorry to go OT, but yeah I live in Queens and people think I am a scout for the Bulls because they see me with all there gear lol. I kind of loved when we were bad because all thoke fake fans left.
As for Manny what he took seems to be a masking agent, weird how he wont appeal. Unlike JC Romero who was hell bent on proving he was innocent.
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It certainly wouldn't surprise me if he got busted, or if any star got busted. However, it also wouldn't surprise me if he was clean.
Newskoolbulls wrote:
It certainly wouldn't surprise me if he got busted, or if any star got busted. However, it also wouldn't surprise me if he was clean.
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what makes me wonder about him is how fast he went from single A all the way to the majors and he had that weird leg/hip injury two years ago that steroid users tend to have. When I herd Any Pettite took it i said to myself no one ever again will shock me.
dougthonus wrote:
what makes me wonder about him is how fast he went from single A all the way to the majors and he had that weird leg/hip injury two years ago that steroid users tend to have. When I herd Any Pettite took it i said to myself no one ever again will shock me.
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I don't understand how people still love baseball so much despite all the cheating going on. I'm surprised its still more popular than basketball, but I guess i'm looking at it from a biased viewpoint.
I don't understand how people still love baseball so much despite all the cheating going on. I'm surprised its still more popular than basketball, but I guess i'm looking at it from a biased viewpoint.
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Its actually sad that basball has come to this that you cant trust anyone.
dougthonus wrote:
Its actually sad that basball has come to this that you cant trust anyone.
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I don't know if I have a problem with steroids if they would just admit to it. I give up, we can't ever know the truth so I just assume everyone's on it, I know that is not right it is quite sad but that's just how I feel. If we don't have a problem in football with it then I can't single out baseball, plus I like homeruns and 100 mile an hour fastballs.
It just sucks more in baseball because it has a direct effect. You can be fast and strong in football or basketball and still suck. Yes Larry Bird wouldve been better on steroids but he was able to outsmart people and still be one of the greatest of all time. In baseball you can't outsmart your way onto the base, so you get stronger you are going to get better.
I don't know if I have a problem with steroids if they would just admit to it. I give up, we can't ever know the truth so I just assume everyone's on it, I know that is not right it is quite sad but that's just how I feel. If we don't have a problem in football with it then I can't single out baseball, plus I like homeruns and 100 mile an hour fastballs.
It just sucks more in baseball because it has a direct effect. You can be fast and strong in football or basketball and still suck. Yes Larry Bird wouldve been better on steroids but he was able to outsmart people and still be one of the greatest of all time. In baseball you can't outsmart your way onto the base, so you get stronger you are going to get better.
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how do we still love basketball with the rule changes and garbage officiating?
charity stripe wrote:
how do we still love basketball with the rule changes and garbage officiating?
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Baseball is not more popular than basketball if you break it down. Baseball is not played by inner city kids black or white. There is a lot of youth that don't even care for baseball, it is the 3rd out of the major sports. TV might be ok for now, but I went to broadcast school and neilson ratings for things like baseball and golf aren't accurate because people use it like radio, Background noise and just leave the tv on while they do something else. The ads on tv and household names are all basketball players. Not to mention there is no College baseball, why because it is boring. Once the owners of media outlets become younger we will no longer have baseball shoved down our throats like golf. I can't watch a baseball game on tv at all.
Baseball is not more popular than basketball if you break it down. Baseball is not played by inner city kids black or white. There is a lot of youth that don't even care for baseball, it is the 3rd out of the major sports. TV might be ok for now, but I went to broadcast school and neilson ratings for things like baseball and golf aren't accurate because people use it like radio, Background noise and just leave the tv on while they do something else. The ads on tv and household names are all basketball players. Not to mention there is no College baseball, why because it is boring. Once the owners of media outlets become younger we will no longer have baseball shoved down our throats like golf. I can't watch a baseball game on tv at all.
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Not to mention that Basketball is more popular (2nd) world wide and is closing in on Soccer. Baseball just got cut from the Olympics and started a fake thing that no one cares about.
Not to mention that Basketball is more popular (2nd) world wide and is closing in on Soccer. Baseball just got cut from the Olympics and started a fake thing that no one cares about.
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The only intentional garbage officiating came from Donaghy and maybe Joe Crawford. Other than that the officiating was not blatant cheating that is/was rampant in baseball. Hundreds of players cheating for a long period of time is pretty different than a couple bad officials.
In baseball, anything impressive that the players do is tainted or looked upon with suspicion. In basketball, even with bad officials, you can still appreciate what the players do.
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The only intentional garbage officiating came from Donaghy and maybe Joe Crawford. Other than that the officiating was not blatant cheating that is/was rampant in baseball. Hundreds of players cheating for a long period of time is pretty different than a couple bad officials.
In baseball, anything impressive that the players do is tainted or looked upon with suspicion. In basketball, even with bad officials, you can still appreciate what the players do.
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Why is it that whenever I hear about baseball it's always about steroids? Is this seriously all baseball has reduced to? It seems like a majority of players who were really good were on the juice. It's a shame really.
Why is it that whenever I hear about baseball it's always about steroids? Is this seriously all baseball has reduced to? It seems like a majority of players who were really good were on the juice. It's a shame really.
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Yeah, you're just waiting for Pujols to get slammed now. The guy is just so good that you have to impagine that he is...he will go down as one of the best players in baseball history if he never gets caught, putting up these numbers in the steroid era.
Speaking of someone never busted for homeruns....
I think it's really unfair to Sammy for him to get thrown in with the roiders when there has never been any type of proof that he may have done them.
The corked bat thing, obviously looks bad, but why would a guy feel the need to cork a bat if he was roiding up?
Yeah, you're just waiting for Pujols to get slammed now. The guy is just so good that you have to impagine that he is...he will go down as one of the best players in baseball history if he never gets caught, putting up these numbers in the steroid era.
Speaking of someone never busted for homeruns....
I think it's really unfair to Sammy for him to get thrown in with the roiders when there has never been any type of proof that he may have done them.
The corked bat thing, obviously looks bad, but why would a guy feel the need to cork a bat if he was roiding up?
