OT: Rooting for two Chicago Baseball Teams

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Have you a favorite team in Chicago? I am sure most of you do. And no, I am not talking about those that live in Chicago but root for a non-Chicago team. I am talking about those that root for Cubbie Blue or Good Guys Wear Black. To those that loved the sound of "Hey, Hey" or "Yes!" after homeruns.

At some point, most rooted for one team or the other. Perhaps it was their grandfather that rooted for one team, perhaps it was the ability to listen to day baseball on the transistor radio (if you don't know what a transistor radio is, I suggest you use the internet a bit less). In any event, you were presented with a team and more then likely you followed that team. At times, following them with blind passion. And the by-product of being loyal to your team was a dislike of the other team in Chicago. The question really is "Why?"

Why do we not root for both teams? Why is it an "either or" proposition? I don't understand. They both play the game we all love, baseball. They both sell food we like and drinks we sample. They both wear uniforms most of us wish we could fit in let alone play in. For some reason it is taboo to root for the two teams that play baseball in Chicago.

I was one of them. My father and grandfather took me to my first baseball game. It could have just as easily been to Wrigley Field instead of Comiskey Park. After I ate my hot dog, I was ready to go home. But I was told that the fireworks hadn't happened yet. So I took my coloring book with crayons (the night's giveaway) and turned my seat into a desk. When I heard the scoreboard go off, I looked at them and said can we go now? (It was only a home run.) I never did see the fireworks that night. I fell asleep changing the aformentioned desk to a bed. But a White Sox fan was born.

I remember visiting my grandparents and laying next to my grandfather on a pillow. We were watching a barely qualifying color television listening to the voices of the White Sox - Harry Carry and Jimmy Piersall. Rides home from the games with my Dad was another relaxing time listening to Piersall do wrap up. I never did follow the Cubs. I even disliked them.

The Cubs played the White Sox every year in an exhibition game. One year at Wrigley Field, the next at Comiskey Park. And that game meant a lot to Cubs and Sox fans. Neighbors would talk up a storm a week or two out and then the victor (usually the White Sox) would brag for another year. The White Sox would go to the playoffs in 1983, followed by the Cubs in 1984. (Side Note: I made my first bet in 1984 after the Cubs were up 2-0 against the Padres. I bet twenty five cents with my fifth grade teacher. He still owes me a quarter.) The Cubs would go in 1989 and the White Sox would go in 1993. The White Sox should have gone in 1994, but baseball needed time off to regroup. The battle raged on. The Cubs went again in 1998 and then in 2003. Still it wasn't until 2005 that a Chicago squad won a World Series in more then 85 years.

That should end the debate right? The White Sox won the World Series. But it doesn't. In reality, the debate never should have started.

Do you not follow your son in little league because you are a Cub fan? Of course not. Do you stop following the White Sox because you have a strong interest in your old high school's baseball team? Absolutely not. Most cities have more then one team in them. It's ok to root for teams in the same city, especially when they aren't even in the same league. And that's exactly what I am doing now. I root for both the Cubs and the White Sox. I can remember a promotion several years ago about a billboard that overlooked Lake Shore Drive when you were headed south. It simply read 10.4 miles to major league baseball. How true that sign was.

The Chicago Cubs aren't a major league team and thus it's ok to root for them. You can't have as many years of failures as they have and still be taken seriously. You can't have a stadium full of fans and only 50 of them know that the guy that played second base for them for most of the 80's was a man named Ryne Sandberg. You can't keep treading out announcers that are oblivious to the action on the field due to their drinking (Harry Carry) or their eyesight (Ron Santo). You can't have fans that say our team is better 'cause we have better attendance. Heck, Cubs fans would go out in December and comment that the game was great. You can for a non major league team though. So Chicagoans, there's nothing wrong with rooting for both teams. They play the same game, just one team plays it at a different level then the other.
 

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yeah, exactly. i want a chicago/chicago world series, that's my dream. plus ken griffey jr getting traded to a chicago team a decade ago...
 

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This guy has one of the most interesting blogs. He talks about nostalgia, brings up some of your best childhood memories, and even plays the whole father/son going to their first game card. You can almost smell your first ballpark hot dog. Kind of brings a tear to your eye. You keep reading because you agree so much with what he is saying, and cannot believe that there are true "baseball" fans left. Not just fans of a team, but true baseball fans that just love the actual game, and will watch any game just to get their basbeall "fix"!!!

Up until he makes an ass of himself in the last paragraph. I mean really, I had no idea it was a race to win the World Series!!! And Because the Sox won in 2005 means they are considered a major league team??? WHAT?!?!? So getting to the world series means nothing??? Not to mention how many times teams make the playoffs??? Cubs have been in 10 World Series. Basically you are saying the Yankees don;t qualify as a major league team because they have lost more World Series titles than they have won!!!

Anyway, the decision on your major league status is based off of one season in the past 92 years!!! Cubs were in the world series 6 times in the last 92 years, Sox 3 times and won once. You are telling me 1 title in 92 years makes your team better than mine or qualifies them witha certain status that mine does not have?!?!?? I don't think so...either way...I wish you well the rest of the season.

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Sorry buddy, you were doing fine until you showed your true colors in the last paragraph. And unfortunately it makes everything you said previous to it irrelevant. If you truly are for rooting for both teams, you wouldn't be putting back handed comments toward the Cub fan base at the end of your whole diatribe. It's comments like yours that make me dispise certain Sox fans. I say "certain" because I don't despise all Sox fans. But what I can't stand is that they win 1 WS title & it somehow erases the fact that your franchise has sucked as much as the Cubs, actually has sucked more, over their entire history.

What kills me is all the stereotypes on both sides. Cubs & Sox fans are virtually identical in every aspect (race, economic status, gender, etc.) yet all you hear is "Cub fans are brainless, frat boy yuppies" & "Sox fans are poor, inbred meat packers." It's all media hype bullshit.

If you want to root for both teams then good on ya. I root for the Cubs, but I don't wish the Sox or their fans any ill will, even if certain fans of them wish it on me.
 

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Rooting for both teams, yet calling one not a major league team seems like a hypocritical statement to me...

I root for both, but like the Cubs better. Never do I wish ill on a White Sox fan. I praised the White Sox when the won the World Series. Whenever they have success, I'm happy for them. Both teams have had some very embarrassing seasons in the past, both have had some recent success. Yes the Cubs still can't win in the postseason to save their lives, but that doesn't mean they're not a major league team. There are teams far worse than both of these teams.
 

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brett05 wrote:
I never said the Title makes the difference. I just point that the one team is better regardless of the Title in 2005

Chicago Cubs (1903-2009): 2 WS Titles, 10 Pennants, 16 Playoff appearances, & 39 HOFers.

Chicago White Sox (1902-2009): 3 WS Titles, 6 Pennants, 9 Playoff appearances, & 25 HOFers.

Seems to me the Cubs have had a little more success overall even though they are -1 in WS titles. Both teams sucked for long periods & now they are both finally playing well at the same time, something that hasn't happened in over 100yrs.

So you didn't point that one team was better regardless of the title. But that '05 title clouded your thinking into making a statement like this: "The Chicago Cubs aren't a major league team and thus it's ok to root for them. You can't have as many years of failures as they have and still be taken seriously." So then why should Cub fans take you seriously with a ridiculously hypocritical statement like that?
 

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brett05 wrote:
You can't keep treading out announcers that are oblivious to the action on the field due to their drinking (Harry Carry) or their eyesight (Ron Santo).

Says the fan of a team with Hawk Harrelson announcing.

Sox fans even make up hate sites for how homerific and trashy he can be.

http://www.heavethehawk.com/
 

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I was a fan of both teams, until I took it up a notch. In the 80s and 90s, I went to games galore on the North and Southside. My parents family all moved to the southside in the 70s, after living on the northside. So my family were Cubs fans, but I lived a few blocks away from Comiskey. I had to make my peace early, or get stuck in meaningless ***** and moan fests from kids and adults who don't know how to channel their anger away from other human beings.

But I took it up a notch. I don't care for either anymore. Both organizations are run like a total joke. Just because the Sox won in 2005, doesn't forgive the way they handle business. I have frozen my baseball interests until Chicago wakes up and actually has something worth rooting for. I don't even care if they win or lose, just get something interesting going. But I sure as hell wont be one of the reliable sheep who buy into the whole, hardcore fan, deal. If you really want to send a message to these teams to wake up, you need to receive their message first. They don't care about you.
 
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Ohh, horseshit. He said he was primarily a Sox fan. Damn, you guys want to divide yourselves so bad. You couldn't see an olive branch if it smacked you in the face.
 

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When I think of the White Sox, all I think of is baseball.

When I think of the Cubs, its more like a party, with baseball in the background.

I cheer for the Sox because every one in my family has been a Sox fan since I remember. But also I love baseball enough where when I go to a game, I want baseball to be the main focus. I actually really enjoy going to Cubs games because they always have good players and I can actually see NL teams. I have no problem paying full price for either. It the Sox I get baseball first and all the stuff they have at the stadium second. I like Wrigley cuz it always seems like a playoff atmosphere because its sold out and I can see the players up close in the concourse after the game. But the game is always over shadowed by Beer and Bleacher Bums and stuff like that.
 

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Proud to be wrong. Not that I watch Baseball, but they represent my Hometown.

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I love Chicago. It's dumb to hate a team from the city. One is NL, one is AL. They play six times a year. Other than those games, there is no "rivalry". Hating one or the other serves no purpose.
 

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