OT: Tim Thomas considering not playing in 2012-13

[HawkWriter]

It doesnt matter to their cap.

If you read all the articles about the Bruins instead of having knee jerk reactions to something so stupid you would see the marc savard exemption issued.

Why are you getting your butt hurt over this?

What does Marc Savard have anything to do with this? Completely different scenario.

I believe (someone can double check the age, which may be necessary) that Tim Thomas was 35 years old when he signed his multi-year contract extension. If in fact he was 35 years old, and if in fact he sits out/retires, then it will definitely count against the cap of the Bruins because of the 35/over rule on multi-year contracts.

 

[DewsSox79]

What does Marc Savard have anything to do with this? Completely different scenario.

I believe (someone can double check the age, which may be necessary) that Tim Thomas was 35 years old when he signed his multi-year contract extension. If in fact he was 35 years old, and if in fact he sits out/retires, then it will definitely count against the cap of the Bruins because of the 35/over rule on multi-year contracts.

They will be using the salary cap hit exemption on him which would cover a lot of the cap hit if Thomas did do this.

 

[DewsSox79]

though the B’s can compensate for most of it by using Marc Savard’s $4.007 million long-term injury exemption

not hard to actually read the articles and get full story.

 

[HawkWriter]

They will be using the salary cap hit exemption on him which would cover a lot of the cap hit if Thomas did do this.

The exemption that isn't for sure yet.

That would not cover Thomas' cap hit at all though.

Savard's cap hit is $0 right now because he is on the LTIR. Cap Bonus penalties do count but it is a minimum.

The Bruins did not have a cap hit with Savard last year. If Thomas does retire/take a year off then it will cost the Bruins a cap hit of $5mil because Thomas was 35 years old when he signed a multi-year deal with the Bruins.

 

[HawkWriter]

not hard to actually read the articles and get full story.

Which you clearly aren't understanding.

The Bruins already did that as of this last year.

If all of a sudden Thomas retires, then they have a cap hit of $5mil to deal with. Savard means nothing to them because there is no cap hit associated with him because of his LTIR status.

 

[DewsSox79]

The exemption that isn't for sure yet.

That would not cover Thomas' cap hit at all though.

Savard's cap hit is $0 right now because he is on the LTIR. Cap Bonus penalties do count but it is a minimum.

The Bruins did not have a cap hit with Savard last year. If Thomas does retire/take a year off then it will cost the Bruins a cap hit of $5mil because Thomas was 35 years old when he signed a multi-year deal with the Bruins.

the exemption would cover most of thomas' cap hit. im just going by what the media is going by. maybe you should contact them and let them know that they are publishing false info to the public.

 

[DewsSox79]

Which you clearly aren't understanding.

The Bruins already did that as of this last year.

If all of a sudden Thomas retires, then they have a cap hit of $5mil to deal with. Savard means nothing to them because there is no cap hit associated with him because of his LTIR status.

if he retires nothing happens. if he sits out the cap hit is active.

 

[HawkWriter]

the exemption would cover most of thomas' cap hit. im just going by what the media is going by. maybe you should contact them and let them know that they are publishing false info to the public.

The exemption doesn't matter when talking about Savard!

If they use the exemption on Savard, it will save the team $0 cap hit because Savard already has a $0 cap hit because he is on LTIR.

If they used the exemption on Thomas, then the cap hit would stay the same because Savard is already on LTIR but does not want to retire, probably so he can keep collecting a check or hoping he can make a come back.

 

[HawkWriter]

if he retires nothing happens. if he sits out the cap hit is active.

Who is he? Thomas?

If Thomas, that is inaccurate if in fact Thomas was 35 when he signed his last contract. If he was 35, then the Cap hit would still count against the Bruins.

 

[DewsSox79]

Who is he? Thomas?

If Thomas, that is inaccurate if in fact Thomas was 35 when he signed his last contract. If he was 35, then the Cap hit would still count against the Bruins.

if he retires after july 1 than it wont count against the cap per boston herald.

though the B’s can compensate for most of it by using Marc Savard’s $4.007 million long-term injury exemption

^^^^ they must be wrong. please write an article correcting all the misinfo. k? thanks.

 

[HawkWriter]

if he retires after july 1 than it wont count against the cap per boston herald.



^^^^ they must be wrong. please write an article correcting all the misinfo. k? thanks.

They are completely wrong about him retiring and it not counting and as are you for backing up their statements. Open up your eyes and look into it and you will see that since Thomas was 35 years old when signing a multi-year contract, if he retires during that contract then the cap hit will count against the Bruins. We aren't talking about him getting suspended, we are talking about if he retires.

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Tim Thomas $5 million annual cap hit will be charged to the Bruins even if he doesn't play.

Yes they can put Savard on LTIR and that will get rid of Savard's cap hit, but Savard was already on LTIR reserve last year so they can't all of a sudden do it again this year and it will magically absorb Thomas' cap hit. Savard would be $0 again and Thomas would be $5mil again but Thomas wouldn't be playing. They have to replace both of those players so it isn't about absorbing.

 

[DewsSox79]

They are completely wrong about him retiring and it not counting and as are you for backing up their statements. Open up your eyes and look into it and you will see that since Thomas was 35 years old when signing a multi-year contract, if he retires during that contract then the cap hit will count against the Bruins. We aren't talking about him getting suspended, we are talking about if he retires.

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Yes they can put Savard on LTIR and that will get rid of Savard's cap hit, but Savard was already on LTIR reserve last year so they can't all of a sudden do it again this year and it will magically absorb Thomas' cap hit. Savard would be $0 again and Thomas would be $5mil again but Thomas wouldn't be playing. They have to replace both of those players so it isn't about absorbing.

if he just sits out the cap takes a hit. If he formally announces he is done with hockey and is retiring they will not be charged the cap hit.

 

[DewsSox79]

cap hit if he is suspended or goes on hiatus. Again If he hangs up the skates and calls it quits for good there is no cap hit.

And why is this even a big deal? who gives a **** about what tim thomas does? Like chicagofan said earlier, this is just dumb.

He wants to be out west, he is probably pushing for a trade. If he isnt he will probably retire and go into politics, his other major interest.

The whole issue in this thread is the hate for him.

Shouldnt we wait until we see what actually happens, i mean thats what everyone said about Kane, or is this different because he isnt on the hawkz?

 

[HawkWriter]

if he just sits out the cap takes a hit. If he formally announces he is done with hockey and is retiring they will not be charged the cap hit.

Yes they will and you have failed to comment on my reasoning.

In the CBA it states that if a player is 35 years or older while signing a multi-year contract, and if they retire after the second year of that contract, that the team will be charged the cap hit if they retire. This was done to stop teams from doing up front contracts to get the cap hit down and then having the player retire. Obviously guys like Keith/Hossa do not fall into this category because they were under 35 years old when signing.

I am pretty damn sure Thomas was 35 when he signed but am on my phone.

So please, comment on this because I know the 35+ rule is 100% accurate. So how will Thomas' cap hit not count if he retires?

 

[DewsSox79]

Yes they will and you have failed to comment on my reasoning.

In the CBA it states that if a player is 35 years or older while signing a multi-year contract, and if they retire after the second year of that contract, that the team will be charged the cap hit if they retire. This was done to stop teams from doing up front contracts to get the cap hit down and then having the player retire. Obviously guys like Keith/Hossa do not fall into this category because they were under 35 years old when signing.

I am pretty damn sure Thomas was 35 when he signed but am on my phone.

So please, comment on this because I know the 35+ rule is 100% accurate. So how will Thomas' cap hit not count if he retires?

just going by the outlets right now. If you are right about it than you are right. I dont know what else to tell ya kid. If being right on this makes your weekend, than sweet for you!

 

[DewsSox79]

The Bruins could place Marc Savard on long-term injured reserve to absorb most of Thomas’s cap hit. Savard has a $4,007,143 annual cap hit. The Bruins have not had to place Savard on long-term IR previously because they never exceeded the cap by the center’s number.

^^^^^^^^ please let them know that you are right and they are wrong.

 

[HawkWriter]

just going by the outlets right now. If you are right about it than you are right. I dont know what else to tell ya kid. If being right on this makes your weekend, than sweet for you!

It all depends on him being 35 or not when signing the agreement. He was either 35 or 34 depending on when he signed the contract if I c an remember correctly. If 34, no cap hit. If 35, cap hit. That is what I'm trying to stress.

 

[DewsSox79]

It all depends on him being 35 or not when signing the agreement. He was either 35 or 34 depending on when he signed the contract if I c an remember correctly. If 34, no cap hit. If 35, cap hit. That is what I'm trying to stress.

I have no idea when it was inked. if the outlets are not reporting this properly than you are right. I would assume the writers know the CBA but than again who knows.

 

[HawkWriter]

I have no idea when it was inked. if the outlets are not reporting this properly than you are right. I would assume the writers know the CBA but than again who knows.

All I am trying to stress is that it all depends on when he signed it. I just looked up two different things and saw both 34/35 when signed, so who knows.

The herald says it won't count but the globe says it will. All depends on the contract age, not about being right, all about the 35 and over rule which i can't seem to get a straight answer on.

 

[DewsSox79]

if he goes on hiatus than its a dick move but whatta gonna do.

They did mention trading him to a team that needs to get to the cap floor.

if he is doing this to get traded, than ask for a trade.

the whole thing is weird