PAGANO OUT!

[Nelly]

Thats cool, Eddie Jackson and quinn are god awful. Danny T is old and unathletic, We have 2 corners and no SS.

Hicks is only getting older.

You can blame the scheme all you want, but the players did not come to play this season.

I have no faith they will next season either.

WE all know this defensive unit would start a decline soon, seems like it's happening now. Funny thing is the majority of fans knew we had a window and instead of blaming players decide to just blame the DC.

What's your take on Eddie Jackson? Was he never good or did he just stop playing after getting a big pay day?

 

[Bearly]

Rosenfels made some really good points in that discussion. He said Nagy's offensive game plan against the Saints was one of the worst he has ever seen. He talked about Nagy designing a system that relies on the QB being great and the rest of the league are designing offenses that simplify things for the QB, so they are part of the team but not depended on to be the team. And knowing Mitch's limitations, it's even worse that he expects him to succeed in that offense. He said Nagy needs to be replaced immediately.

Sounds right but obviously doesn't excuse Mitch's limitations.

 

[Luke]

This but he wasn't the worst DC and his 1st 3 years as HC, he was 11-5 in all 3. At least the Colts had a reason to keep him around.

I heard something on the radio yesterday that had me thinking. It was just a moment of listening but, I think it was, Sage Rosenfels said that Mitch was really let down by Nagy. This is not excuse making for Mitch but he stated that guys that aren't natural readers tend to catch on by seeing the same thing repeatedly and that Nagy's inconsistency has hurt Mitch be all he can be, whatever that is. That makes perfect sense to me. That was all I got but it pissed me off.

Lazor's O, keeping it simple for stupid, was a godsend for Mitch and a good coach could see why. Mitch sure was a lot less tentative. Why TF would you deviate from it in the 2 most important games of the year after that success. Tougher D's and it may not have been much different but it couldn't have been worse and ego over results is a very poor 'quality' for any leader.

Nagy tries something out of desperation, remarkably, it works and then he thinks that he can do it better. His sequencing sucked as he either did something to a fault or abandoned it without setting up a D outside the one play to Wims. His Nagy added plays sucked with the same caveat but maybe his insistence to use Wims is the fly in that ointment. His clock management sucked. There's a theme here.

Rosenfels said a lot more than that.
He literally went play by play detailing what a terrible job Nagy did play calling and putting the offense in shitty situations.
He detailed how Nagy put both the OL and Mitch in bad situations and what the result was.
He wasn't a Mitch apologist but he did say that Mitch didn't play terrible.
He did say that if he was the Bears that he'd be looking for a HC today.

 

[tcmtrinity]

What's your take on Eddie Jackson? Was he never good or did he just stop playing after getting a big pay day?

Seems he took note of Leno’s strategy after signing a generational wealth contract and implemented the same.

 

[Nelly]

Seems he took note of Leno’s strategy after signing a generational wealth contract and implemented the same.

I know that after Amos left, Pagano seemed to enjoy shuffling his safeties, with HHCD and Gipson both being more rangy cover guys than more stay at home safeties who can play in the box. That means Jackson isn't always in that ballhawking position. Could it be that he's be disenfranchised by his role in the offense as well?

I'm no X's and O's expert though. I'm sure there's people here who know a lot more about the ins and outs of safety play.

 

[run and shoot]

You just made me think of this tool again

I feel your pain. ? I just want nagy gone. That Pagano move was a b.s. deception. He wasn't to blame for are offense.

 

[Aquineas]

Now if they could get rid of Phillips.

 

[roadwarrior_joe]

Hey Chuck. Here is your pay plus a little extra for you to retire so we don’t have to fire you and make the fan base think what they already know, you are the fall guy so we can justify keeping the other two turds.

 

[Midwaymonster75]

Next season is likely the last season this defense has a chance to play at a high level. We need to get out of the 3-4 because our lbs just arent talented enough for it. We need a front 4 that can put pressure on the qb.