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Not unless you get pace to find a bunch of young rookies who can contribute, which is about a 0% chance.

We need another ILB, another DE, another edge rusher, another safety(maybe two) and another slot corner.

We also have zero cap.

ILB's are easy to find in a 3-4
They need a box safety that plays underneath and allows Jackson to play centerfield, again not hard to find
Get Quinn healthy
Slot corners aren't difficult to find either

Getting a better DC is more important than any other of those positions, quit being a cunt about everything because your boy Pagano sucked.

The offense is a much bigger issue, especially since there is no QB on the roster, and WR/T issues
 

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What kind of DC will the Bears be able to get for 1 year?

Every coach in the league knows that Nagy is going to get fired after next season

This isnt that uncommon. Someone eager to get a big break. Could work out
 

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Shit, now we may see 2 blitzes a games if they hire from within
 

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Chuck Pagano was the almost exact defensive version of Matt Nagy. He was a DC for only 1 season in a system that flourished before him and after he left. Then he became a head coach, where his offense had to carry the team because his defenses were the worst in the league.
 

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So who can this lame duck coach who didn’t realize he had a great DC a on his own staff get to come here now?
 

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More like PaGONEo

Amirite?
 

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Congratulations on the retirement Pags. Didnt work out here, but he still had an impressive coaching career and beat cancer - that's a badass accomplishment. Hope you bang bad bitches (or retire peacefully with your wife) and never shank off the tee. ?

yeah, it's borderline sad that he's retiring knowing all he's been through. I know full well he wasn't working with the Bears, but I'm glad he went out that way instead of getting fired outright. hopefully the Bears right that ship with someone legit.
 

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So who can this lame duck coach who didn’t realize he had a great DC a on his own staff get to come here now?
Nagy wont be lame duck Pace will be. Nagy had a 5 year deal.
 

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Nagy wont be lame duck Pace will be. Nagy had a 5 year deal.

ok maybe not literally but he is going to be. Perform the same as this year or worse and gone.
 

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ok maybe not literally but he is going to be. Perform the same as this year or worse and gone.
Im worried we will see a 1 year contract extension for Pace to align them.

I guess there is also the possibility the rumors of him taking Teddys job and Teddy retiring. Normally teams dont let GMs be lame ducks tho.
 

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This defense will be even worse next year.

This offense will probably be just as bad.

I have no faith towards next season unless they somehow pull off a move for watson or trade up to get fields/wilson.

How will the D be worse? We get Goldman back; Vildor and Jaylon will be better in second year .... Gipson may produce next year .... we lose no one to FA... we can get at least one
Player on D in the draft that will contribute Ellie year ..... Roquan was out in packers and saints game and he will be back producing at peak level .... hopefully Quinn’s issue was injury and If he can get back to what he’s done in his career I don’t see how we will be worse on D

On O both Mooney and KMet are legit and should be better in second year .... Daniels will be back and our interior OL is set with Bars Mustipher DanielsWhitehair ....if we get a OT in draft and that position is one where rookies playnall the time and re-sign ARob and Mitch how will the O be worse ?
 

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Not unless you get pace to find a bunch of young rookies who can contribute, which is about a 0% chance.

We need another ILB, another DE, another edge rusher, another safety(maybe two) and another slot corner.

We also have zero cap.
We have both shelley and vildor - no we don’t need another slot CB.... u have to trust the talent u picked and give them chance to grow .... they both flashed talent

geez i am glad u are not in charge of Bears ... or Fuller would have been gone after one year
 

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Chuck Pagano was the almost exact defensive version of Matt Nagy. He was a DC for only 1 season in a system that flourished before him and after he left. Then he became a head coach, where his offense had to carry the team because his defenses were the worst in the league.
This but he wasn't the worst DC and his 1st 3 years as HC, he was 11-5 in all 3. At least the Colts had a reason to keep him around.

I heard something on the radio yesterday that had me thinking. It was just a moment of listening but, I think it was, Sage Rosenfels said that Mitch was really let down by Nagy. This is not excuse making for Mitch but he stated that guys that aren't natural readers tend to catch on by seeing the same thing repeatedly and that Nagy's inconsistency has hurt Mitch be all he can be, whatever that is. That makes perfect sense to me. That was all I got but it pissed me off.

Lazor's O, keeping it simple for stupid, was a godsend for Mitch and a good coach could see why. Mitch sure was a lot less tentative. Why TF would you deviate from it in the 2 most important games of the year after that success. Tougher D's and it may not have been much different but it couldn't have been worse and ego over results is a very poor 'quality' for any leader.

Nagy tries something out of desperation, remarkably, it works and then he thinks that he can do it better. His sequencing sucked as he either did something to a fault or abandoned it without setting up a D outside the one play to Wims. His Nagy added plays sucked with the same caveat but maybe his insistence to use Wims is the fly in that ointment. His clock management sucked. There's a theme here.
 
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This but he wasn't the worst DC and his 1st 3 years as HC, he was 11-5 in all 3. At least the Colts had a reason to keep him around.

I heard something on the radio yesterday that had me thinking. It was just a moment of listening but, I think it was, Sage Rosenfels said that Mitch was really let down by Nagy. This is not excuse making for Mitch but he stated that guys that aren't natural readers tend to catch on by seeing the same thing repeatedly and that Nagy's inconsistency has hurt Mitch be all he can be, whatever that is. That makes perfect sense to me. That was all I got but it pissed me off.

Lazor's O, keeping it simple for stupid, was a godsend for Mitch and a good coach could see why. Mitch sure was a lot less tentative. Why TF would you deviate from it in the 2 most important games of the year after that success. Tougher D's and it may not have been much different but it couldn't have been worse and ego over results is a very poor 'quality' for any leader.

Nagy tries something out of desperation, remarkably, it works and then he thinks that he can do it better. His sequencing sucked as he either did something to a fault or abandoned it without setting up a D outside the one play to Wims. His Nagy added plays sucked with the same caveat but maybe his insistence to use Wims is the fly in that ointment. His clock management sucked. There's a theme here.
To only score 3 points in 59 minutes WITHOUT a turnover is unheard of.. Scared, bad, inept, whatever, the blame falls on the coach and playcaller. It's too common of a theme, he doesn't learn from his mistakes.

Even last Packers game, Mitch almost had 80% completion percentage. Nagy kept kicking FG's in the redzone while watching his defense get smoked. Literally, just throw the ball up to Jimmy or Cole, at least give your team a shot. . .
 

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To only score 3 points in 59 minutes WITHOUT a turnover is unheard of.. Scared, bad, inept, whatever, the blame falls on the coach and playcaller. It's too common of a theme, he doesn't learn from his mistakes.

Even last Packers game, Mitch almost had 80% completion percentage. Nagy kept kicking FG's in the redzone while watching his defense get smoked. Literally, just throw the ball up to Jimmy or Cole, at least give your team a shot. . .
Don't forget his clock and situational decisions. When you are a huge underdog, you are the team that needs to make something happen and be aggressive. He played to lose but not by as much in both those games and that doesn't mean a wild open Offense but don't grind yourself into the ground or sit on the ball at the end of halves etc and it's not just that. He still gets aggressive, but at the wrong times like the 4th and a foot where he rolls Mitch and it's dead before it starts. He's situationally impaired.

I've said it many times, the plays themselves are fine now that he's stepped back from all that presnap confusion but the sequencing and situational/ personnel considerations are horribly lacking. You'd think after 3 years, he'd get a handle on it but, nope.
 
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getting a decent DC is going to be tough with Nagy/Pace potentially gone next year......could only be a one year gig for DC
 

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This but he wasn't the worst DC and his 1st 3 years as HC, he was 11-5 in all 3. At least the Colts had a reason to keep him around.

I heard something on the radio yesterday that had me thinking. It was just a moment of listening but, I think it was, Sage Rosenfels said that Mitch was really let down by Nagy. This is not excuse making for Mitch but he stated that guys that aren't natural readers tend to catch on by seeing the same thing repeatedly and that Nagy's inconsistency has hurt Mitch be all he can be, whatever that is. That makes perfect sense to me. That was all I got but it pissed me off.

Lazor's O, keeping it simple for stupid, was a godsend for Mitch and a good coach could see why. Mitch sure was a lot less tentative. Why TF would you deviate from it in the 2 most important games of the year after that success. Tougher D's and it may not have been much different but it couldn't have been worse and ego over results is a very poor 'quality' for any leader.

Nagy tries something out of desperation, remarkably, it works and then he thinks that he can do it better. His sequencing sucked as he either did something to a fault or abandoned it without setting up a D outside the one play to Wims. His Nagy added plays sucked with the same caveat but maybe his insistence to use Wims is the fly in that ointment. His clock management sucked. There's a theme here.
Rosenfels made some really good points in that discussion. He said Nagy's offensive game plan against the Saints was one of the worst he has ever seen. He talked about Nagy designing a system that relies on the QB being great and the rest of the league are designing offenses that simplify things for the QB, so they are part of the team but not depended on to be the team. And knowing Mitch's limitations, it's even worse that he expects him to succeed in that offense. He said Nagy needs to be replaced immediately.
 

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