PAPA'S 2016 bye week mock

[Tall Glass Of Jeffery]

I'm all for Smith in the first. Love Cash as well, but I'm with you...he could very well end up a first rounder. LB, Secondary, and OL are probably the 3 positions I'm looking at with our top 3 picks.

 

[WindyCity]

No pass rush.

That is going to be a crippling issue for the defense.

 

[WindyCity]

This is just another mock without a big picture plan. Its just an exercise to fill holes as opposed to a strategy to become a dominant team. Windy's mocks seem to have the same problem.

Here is the plan,

1. Sign younger free agents, even if you have to over pay for what the have done. They have to be good in 2-3 years to have value.
2. Draft pass rush because the free agent class sucks
3. Draft CBs early because the Bears have none and they want to play press man
4. Throw the late round picks at the defense and hope 1-2 turn into something.

 

[PAPABEAR77]

Because you fail at looking at his overall skill set and how similar players have been taken much earlier then your silly 6th round protection. It won't happen. Why do need a link when the evidence is Damning? Go ahead, feel free to do some homework on the subject at hand. I don't need to fish for links for you. I already know better. As does everybody else in this thread.

You've already attempted to change your argument. Silly is right

you talk about damming evidence and you don't bring it. I hope you are not a lawyer cause I don't think you could win a case. I am not the one that needs to homework when you cant prove your own debate. if you prove that Paxton is a first or second round pick on any creditable mock draft board then show the link otherwise your debate as no merit.

 

[Runruffshod75]

I would love to see Smith as the first round pick. All I would change though is a QB in the second. Nice mock though.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Aaron Lemming @AaronLemmingNFL
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[PAPABEAR77]

No pass rush.

That is going to be a crippling issue for the defense.

like I said we cant fix all our holes in one draft

This is just another mock without a big picture plan. Its just an exercise to fill holes as opposed to a strategy to become a dominant team. Windy's mocks seem to have the same problem.

yea we get faster and more versatile with the ILB position,most physical in the secondary and add more talent and depth in the trenches were games are usually won and lost

 

[PAPABEAR77]

Aaron Lemming @AaronLemmingNFL
You guys want a good laugh? Check out the mockdraft down by PAPABEAR on chicitysports.com

thanks can you make it more realistic though

 

[Wild_x_Card]

you talk about damming evidence and you don't bring it. I hope you are not a lawyer cause I don't think you could win a case. I am not the one that needs to homework when you cant prove your own debate. if you prove that Paxton is a first or second round pick on any creditable mock draft board then show the link otherwise your debate as no merit.

Ahhhh this is where you're lost. I never claimed him to be a first or second round pick. While any of those could happen. I don't see him ever getting out of the 3rd round. The Evidence is in the past drafts when looking at players of similar skill sets and physical traits. How you're oblivious to this is mind boggling. Everybody else knows it.

I'll tell you again, for the last time, I will not do your homework for you. I'll point you in the right direction and the rest is on you. Go ahead and Google "Paxton Lynch draft stock". You'll find articles, videos and even podcasts all from various sources talking about his ", Rising draft stock"

 

[WindyCity]

Mel Kiper has Lynch as his 10th overall player in the draft.

Matt Miller has him as a top 5 QB.

Most people have Lynch in the 1st round or moving in that direction.

 

[PAPABEAR77]

Ahhhh this is where you're lost. I never claimed him to be a first or second round pick. While any of those could happen. I don't see him ever getting out of the 3rd round. The Evidence is in the past drafts when looking at players of similar skill sets and physical traits. How you're oblivious to this is mind boggling. Everybody else knows it.

I'll tell you again, for the last time, I will not do your homework for you. I'll point you in the right direction and the rest is on you. Go ahead and Google "Paxton Lynch draft stock". You'll find articles, videos and even podcasts all from various sources talking about his ", Rising draft stock"

your right I misread your fisrt post it was greg23 who posted that however that's still no prof. his stock is rising though I have not been googling his name I been watching games and following a few mock draft sites that don't even have him on their board like walter and cbs sports draft days that have posted mocks

Mel Kiper has Lynch as his 10th overall player in the draft.

Matt Miller has him as a top 5 QB.

Most people have Lynch in the 1st round or moving in that direction.

that's proof thanks windy

 

[Warden of the Northeast]

No more VT corners please.

 

[WindyCity]

your right I misread your fisrt post it was greg23 who posted that however that's still no prof. his stock is rising though I have not been googling his name I been watching games and following a few mock draft sites that don't even have him on their board like walter and cbs sports draft days that have posted mocks

that's proof thanks windy

I think he will climb into a solid 1st round pick, size and ability plus need.

I also think my man Sudfield will climb up as well.

Where the Bears choose to take a QB will be very interesting story line to follow. If early, I am cool with that, get the next guy in here.

 

[knoxville7]

Paxton lynch will be back at Memphis next year

 

[dreadpirateroberts]

No pass rush.

That is going to be a crippling issue for the defense.

That's why I have them taking Noah Spence in the third round in mine.

 

[PAPABEAR77]

I think he will climb into a solid 1st round pick, size and ability plus need.

I also think my man Sudfield will climb up as well.

Where the Bears choose to take a QB will be very interesting story line to follow. If early, I am cool with that, get the next guy in here.

I didn't think he was a 6th round either but the mock sites I was looking at didn't have him rising that fast the first I heard of him was a couple weeks ago cause Memphis was rising up the boards.

the ole miss game had me convinced that he could play we shall see how this plays out I just don't know if we will draft a QB in the first unless cutler starts to lay a epic egg this year and Paxton just plays his way into the playoffs or a Heisman finalist

 

[greg23]

All you have to know is he's a qb

Teams always draft qbs higher than every othet position because of its importance.

If he comes out, I could easily see him as a one of the top 3 qb taken because of his measurables.

Go check kipers big board; not the be all end all gospel but a 6th rounf pick means a player is in the 170-200 range.....hes nowherr near that low and I think in the top 10 or 20 currently.

 

[Matt Suhey]

Here is the plan,

1. Sign younger free agents, even if you have to over pay for what the have done. They have to be good in 2-3 years to have value.
2. Draft pass rush because the free agent class sucks
3. Draft CBs early because the Bears have none and they want to play press man
4. Throw the late round picks at the defense and hope 1-2 turn into something.

This is perhaps a plan but it is not what I would call an overall strategy.

IMO a draft strategy starts with which unit is going to be the team’s money unit . Then you start allocating resources based on that. For the Bears I would say that should be the offense because they have the most talent there at this point. Then you strategize which parts of the defense are most important. For the Bears and most teams in this era IMO that starts with pass rush followed closely by the secondary then run defense.

This is what I mean by strategy. You have finite resources so you start with an overall philosophy then list priorities based on that. The top priorities get the most resources then you work down from there.

Part of why I my strategy as described, was watching JA and Lovie focus on defense and treat the oline like the stepchild in the family. If those two drafted less safeties and had committed to drafting and developing more olinemen the Bears probably would have played more playoff games when they ran things in Halas Hall.

 

[Tall Glass Of Jeffery]

I think he will climb into a solid 1st round pick, size and ability plus need.

I also think my man Sudfield will climb up as well.

Where the Bears choose to take a QB will be very interesting story line to follow. If early, I am cool with that, get the next guy in here.

Hey...don't try to take credit for Sudfeld haha. I've been singing his praises and saying he's one of the best QBs in this draft for quite some time now. Glad someone is with me!

 

[PAPABEAR77]

This is perhaps a plan but it is not what I would call an overall strategy.

IMO a draft strategy starts with which unit is going to be the team’s money unit . Then you start allocating resources based on that. For the Bears I would say that should be the offense because they have the most talent there at this point. Then you strategize which parts of the defense are most important. For the Bears and most teams in this era IMO that starts with pass rush followed closely by the secondary then run defense.

This is what I mean by strategy. You have finite resources so you start with an overall philosophy then list priorities based on that. The top priorities get the most resources then you work down from there.

Part of why I my strategy as described, was watching JA and Lovie focus on defense and treat the oline like the stepchild in the family. If those two drafted less safeties and had committed to drafting and developing more olinemen the Bears probably would have played more playoff games when they ran things in Halas Hall.

So throw most of the teams money of the offense and pick and choose where the defense is weak and fix as you go? what I don't get that have a list based on what philosophy ?

I think it really starts with a culture that we have lacked for years and it not just winning. Its a atmosphere that players and coaches etc ,not just for the money just for the pure love of the game and to be able to make a difference to others with the history of this franchise we should be the ones other look at. we should be the cornerstone and that starts with Top and this don't just happen by throwing money around and making lists that's not a true strategy in any business.

Its not like lovie and JA didn't try and address the oline they just didn't do a good job in the draft and the teams was getting older. Emery and Tressman tried a quick fix and made more problems than it fixed.Time will tell if pace can turn this thing around.

I think you have it backwards you win games in the trenches stop the run first than work on the secondary and pass rush. if they can run the ball on you the its a one demetional team that you can game plan for.