People forget how close Rex Grossman came to beating Peyton Manning in Super Bowl

[nvanprooyen]

As silly as it gets sometimes w/ the Cutler stuff....those Rex vs. Kyle days were really bad on the CBMB.

 

[Mitchapalooza]

Should we setup a Rex & Kyle subforum?

Make BOB the Mod for that section as well.

 

[malcore]

What's weird is the OP was a veiled Cutler thread, but the push pull of the sex cannon/arm punter proved to be too much.

 

[remydat]

Colts tooled it back late. It could have been worse. We gave up more rush yards to a team that couldn't rush for the very same reason, to soft, not normal C2. By the way, do you think we win the AZ game that year by playing D like we did in the SB? We're basically playing prevent from behind and continue to ignore conditions which should have limited production, a lot. So you ignore the run stats and the conditions and cherry pick some stats, some of which are out of context to show we weren't playing softer than usual and that over 38 minutes time of possession had to do with 1 extra turnover by the Bears and a short field.

Crappy secondary? Really? Chris Harris and Nathan Vasher the year after a ProBowl and before he got slowed with that injury. Yah, what a crappy secondary besides Tillman. Brown missed most of the season. How'd we ever win a game?

When are you claiming they tooled it back? If the O had scored a TD on that early 4th quarter, it would have been 24-22. Are you suggesting it was tooled back before or after the pick 6?

Arizona didn't have Manning, Harrison, and Wayne so why would they play soft against the legendary Matt Linehart? Larry Fitz didn't even play so it was just Anquan Boldin and scrubs. So against a crappy QB with just one WR, Boldin somehow managed 12 catches and 136 yards yet you think that is a good game to point out that we should not play soft? Or did you forget the year before when Steve Smith torched us in the playoffs for 189 yards or something like that?

And who said we were not playing softer than usual? I am saying it was the right game plan period. What I find odd is this notion of yours that playing tighter and stopping the run would not have created holes for Manning and Co to exploit as if Manning was incapable of throwing the ball in the rain or exploiting the Bears secondary like how Linehart and Boldin did or Delhomme and Smith did the year before. Oh and Dallas Clark went for 136 yards the week before against the Pats who were one spot behind the Bears D in yards and ahead of them in points against.

So yes I try to limit Manning, Wayne, Harrison, and Clark and if that means giving up something in the run game or having Addai catch dump offs then so be it. The problem was the Bears O didn't get the memo. They should have been running the ball and eating up clock which their 5.8 YPC against the Colts should have allowed them to do. Instead they were wasting drives throwing the ball and giving it back to the Colts.

 

[nvanprooyen]

What's weird is the OP was a veiled Cutler thread, but the push pull of the sex cannon/arm punter proved to be too much.

the force is strong with that one

edit> and I literally lol'd at "arm punter"

 

[malcore]

the force is strong with that one

edit> and I literally lol'd at "arm punter"

An Ole69ism, I believe.

 

[nvanprooyen]

If it was, I missed it at the time and that's brilliant Ole....

 

[KittiesKorner]

I was pretty enamored of it at the time, lol

 

[nvanprooyen]

I still am. Shot out a little beer through my nose when I read it. I'm adding it to my permanent football vernacular to describe noodle armed QBs.

 

[KittiesKorner]

by all means lol.

I'm flattered malcore remembered it

 

[Bearly]

Should we setup a Rex & Kyle subforum?

How about 'Remy's Rambles"

 

[remydat]

Or Bearly's Bullshit.

 

[FrenchieBully]

You really have no clue what your talking about, do you! Bears were down by 5 in the 4th and Rex throws a pick 6. Lot closer than the final score.
Besides, do you realize how CLOSE your Ravens were to not getting a ring last year? One major **** up by a Bronco safety. Change that one play and the Ravens exit the playoffs early again and the media is all over Flacco for his 5 INT game last sunday.

 

[malcore]

How about 'Remy's Rambles"

Or Bearly's Bullshit.

Vash's Vitriol

Spartan's Sparrings

Bearmick's Baitings



Rodney's Wrong

 

[Bearly]

Or Bearly's Bullshit.

Brown nose.

 

[Teddy KGB]

Vash's Vitriol

Spartan's Sparrings

Bearmick's Baitings



Rodney's Wrong

Like Teddy's Tirade myself.

 

[malcore]

Like Teddy's Tirade myself.

Vainglorious Basterd


; )

 

[Bearly]

When are you claiming they tooled it back? If the O had scored a TD on that early 4th quarter, it would have been 24-22. Are you suggesting it was tooled back before or after the pick 6?

Arizona didn't have Manning, Harrison, and Wayne so why would they play soft against the legendary Matt Linehart? Larry Fitz didn't even play so it was just Anquan Boldin and scrubs. So against a crappy QB with just one WR, Boldin somehow managed 12 catches and 136 yards yet you think that is a good game to point out that we should not play soft? Or did you forget the year before when Steve Smith torched us in the playoffs for 189 yards or something like that?

And who said we were not playing softer than usual? I am saying it was the right game plan period. What I find odd is this notion of yours that playing tighter and stopping the run would not have created holes for Manning and Co to exploit as if Manning was incapable of throwing the ball in the rain or exploiting the Bears secondary like how Linehart and Boldin did or Delhomme and Smith did the year before. Oh and Dallas Clark went for 136 yards the week before against the Pats who were one spot behind the Bears D in yards and ahead of them in points against.

So yes I try to limit Manning, Wayne, Harrison, and Clark and if that means giving up something in the run game or having Addai catch dump offs then so be it. The problem was the Bears O didn't get the memo. They should have been running the ball and eating up clock which their 5.8 YPC against the Colts should have allowed them to do. Instead they were wasting drives throwing the ball and giving it back to the Colts.

Wait, so now it was coaching and not all Rex's fault? Thanks.

 

[ijustposthere]

thats not saying much. We were pretty set to lose unless we got like 5 turnovers.

Not saying it's something to brag about, but anyone who thinks the Bears would've won that game with Griese/Orton is completely fooling themselves. We would've ripped the Colts a new asshole if Brown and Harris had played. We may have survived Brown being out with Harris still playing at the level he was playing at. The two of them out, however, basically led to the Bears' demise, regardless of who was QB.

 

[airtime143]

I'll be honest from the get-go, I have no inclination to get into a deep play by play conversation about the entire second half of a football game I watched 7 years ago and have never (and will never) watched again.

My answer to your main question (what would I have done differently) is I would have called mostly runs and short passes instead of putting Rex in deeper drops. The defense couldn't get off the field. They were gassed and couldn't stop the run to save their lives. Turner called exactly the right kind of game to get them back out on the field as quickly as possible.

yes- the Defense was trotted back out due to shit execution by Grossman.
His picks and his fumbles were just hideous... not great defensive plays.

BUT- Turner was keeping the chains moving. Grossman made some nice plays for first downs, but he also crapped his pants and threw some bad passes that ultimately cost the game.

We can agree to disagree on this because i know you have Grossman love for some reason.
Since you are unwilling to get in to a discussion about an offense that was moving the chains fairly well against a resurgent Colts defense except for the fumbles and poorly thrown passes, then I cannot really take your opinion seriously.

I am seriously dumbfounded that with the fumbles and the very poorly thrown interceptions that you can place the offensive woes on anything but execution.