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From everything I've read and heard, Bill Wirtz was a very good man.....away from the Blackhawks. When Rocky took over he also seemed like a very good guy......

There is something about being the owner of this team that turns good people into assholes.
 

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There's too much hyperbole in your post. Hossa last played in 2016--6 years ago. Sharp retired in 2018--4 years ago.

Ryan Sandberg last played in 1997. Dan Hampton retired in 1990. You're talking 25 and 30 years vs. 4 and 6. One of these things is not like the other. The 'hawks Hossa and the 'hawks sharp (1st go-around) would both be just fine in the league today

Any good manager (and I know there's aren't many) will always seek council if they need input on something that is not their forte. Daniel is not a hockey mind. If he wants hockey minds in on the decision, all the better. And maybe you're right that it is a snowjob and they're just using it to insulate themselves, but let's be real here: Both Sharp and Hossa were the type of players who became great by knowing the ins-and-outs of the game at the fundamental level and executing as opposed to relying on a skill or a talent that they had which no one else did. They aren't like Kane in that respect.

Even if Hossa is a scant 6 years out of the league, he's closer to the modern game that Scotty Bowman--ditto for Sharp and his scant 4 years out of the game. The game has barely changed in that time.
Agreed. If you want input from current Hawk players, Sharp is a perfect choice -- the guy is best friends with like what, half the team, including Kane, Toews, and Debrincat, etc. He's pretty much their representative. Hossa -- there are far worse people you can assign than a first-ballot hall-of-famer, 3x Cup champion, whose work ethic on the ice was unparalleled and respected league-wide.

As I said before, the only way I'll be pissed at this committee, is if they hire Chelios. Then I will think it was all for show and only to make the news easier for hard-core fans to swallow. But until then, there is nothing to complain about. Let's see what happens.
 
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I say we poach Caley Chelios from NBC and name her GM.

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I say we poach Caley Chelios from NBC and name her GM.

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Her pressers would be legend.

Either she says absolutely nothing or talks about tequila.
 

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In all honesty, I think the guy they have now will be the guy stuck. After that I don’t see any real GM coming here to salvage this sinking ship.

And I really question 18 year old draftees if this is the environment they want to be a part of.

If my kid was going to be drafted I would tell him **** no to this team if they drafted him and I’d pay to send him to college.
 

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I say we poach Caley Chelios from NBC and name her GM.

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In all honesty, I think the guy they have now will be the guy stuck. After that I don’t see any real GM coming here to salvage this sinking ship.

And I really question 18 year old draftees if this is the environment they want to be a part of.

If my kid was going to be drafted I would tell him **** no to this team if they drafted him and I’d pay to send him to college.
Caley might be the only person in line at this point...after last night and a 3rd John Doe pending, anyone who could actually right the hockey part of this isn't coming within 100 miles of Chicago....hard enough to build a team without the kind of extracurriculars the Hawks have going on right now.
 

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No, it has.

Hockey evolves quicker then other sports considering there’s multiple schemes in this day and age that, depending on the skill set and talent you have, can be successful. You just have to have the entire team on the same page.

Vegas wasn’t supposed to be this good from the jump. They are because they have a system in place that works for their skill set. The Hawks are a joke because they don’t have an identity outside of being a league wide laughing stock further down the ladder after the complete stupidity of their entitled owner yesterday, and that’s the problem.

Four years out this league right now is like 10. The speed of the league with the influx of younger talent is five times faster then four years ago. I really can care less who the next GM is after yesterdays fiasco, but if I was invested, I would be asking current players instead of relics from yesterday what direction they want this team to go in, and weigh my options with that knowledge instead of guys who won Cups seven years ago.

Sorry, I don’t think these guys offer any more insight then a fan would. Gretzky is the GOAT and has failed at everything else but playing hockey. Same with Jordan in basketball. I would no doubt want them on my team but have no say so in picking a person to general manage it.
Gretzky is the prototypical type of player who relied on pure unabated talent and not on knowing the game inside and out, so using him as an example is a poor one. I think you could say the same for Jordan but I don't follow basketball. Plus, it's not like there weren't multiple schemes back when the 'hawks were winning cups. The 2010 'hawks were different than the 2011 Bruins which were different than the 2012 Kings which were different than the 2013 'hawks which were different than the 2014 Kings which were different than the 2015 'hawks...and so on and so forth.

Kane would make a poor coach for the same reasons than Gretzky sucked as a coach. He relied so much on his innate skill and less on reading the game. That was the forte of guys like Hossa and Sharp. Guys like Datsyuk could read the game as well.
 

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TSN is reporting Peter Chiarelli is Interviewing for the GM job.
 

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Chia gonna burn this franchise into ashes.

Calling it now;

Hawks win the lottery next year, get Bedard who either refuses to play here or goes to college, then Chia trades him for two 34 year old defenseman with toughness and a second round pick.
 

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Damn. This is the kind of garbage they're gonna attract.....he's not exactly someone I keep close tabs on but I do remember some of the worst trades and contracts he offered when he was in Edmonton. The Lucic contract was very Bowmanlike.

Bowman Pt2?
 

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Gretzky is the prototypical type of player who relied on pure unabated talent and not on knowing the game inside and out, so using him as an example is a poor one. I think you could say the same for Jordan but I don't follow basketball. Plus, it's not like there weren't multiple schemes back when the 'hawks were winning cups. The 2010 'hawks were different than the 2011 Bruins which were different than the 2012 Kings which were different than the 2013 'hawks which were different than the 2014 Kings which were different than the 2015 'hawks...and so on and so forth.

Kane would make a poor coach for the same reasons than Gretzky sucked as a coach. He relied so much on his innate skill and less on reading the game. That was the forte of guys like Hossa and Sharp. Guys like Datsyuk could read the game as well.
Well….

Three former players with no executive or general managing experience pull Chia out of moth balls.

Fancy that
 

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Scott Mellanby was also interviewed. I have no clue what this guy's front-office track record is, but I always kinda liked him as a player, very hard-nosed, no-nonsense type of guy.
 

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Scott Mellanby was also interviewed. I have no clue what this guy's front-office track record is, but I always kinda liked him as a player, very hard-nosed, no-nonsense type of guy.
I looked him up. Indeed a long time player....like 20 years. He has some FO experience. His last job was in Montreal as Asst GM. He resigned last November. I know Montreal is in bad shape but they can't be any worse than here.....why would he want to jump in and try to fix Bowman's mess after walking away from another in Canada?

Actually.....why it the world would anyone with any smarts want to deal with the mess in Chicago?
 

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I looked him up. Indeed a long time player....like 20 years. He has some FO experience. His last job was in Montreal as Asst GM. He resigned last November. I know Montreal is in bad shape but they can't be any worse than here.....why would he want to jump in and try to fix Bowman's mess after walking away from another in Canada?

Actually.....why it the world would anyone with any smarts want to deal with the mess in Chicago?
I know the Hawks are in a world of shit right now, but I have to believe that someone will want the job.

I just heard on this podcast that the Hawks are only planning on interviewing 6 candidates for GM total, and 4-5 have already been leaked, so that's leaves 1 more suitor only. I was shocked to hear this, considering the names already out there. Shit, they may as well just roll with Davidson.

Evidently, Jeff Greenberg is being rumored. Yes, that Jeff Greenberg, from the Cubs.

Tulsky sounds a decent choice, but other than that, I'm not so sure about these selections. I'd assume it's between Tulsky and Davidson, at least right now.


Some random Fansided article I found on Tulsky. Not sure of the credibility of the writer, just thought I'd sure if anyone's curious: Carolina Hurricanes: The meteoric rise of Eric Tulsky
 

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I know the Hawks are in a world of shit right now, but I have to believe that someone will want the job.

I just heard on this podcast that the Hawks are only planning on interviewing 6 candidates for GM total, and 4-5 have already been leaked, so that's leaves 1 more suitor only. I was shocked to hear this, considering the names already out there. Shit, they may as well just roll with Davidson.

Evidently, Jeff Greenberg is being rumored. Yes, that Jeff Greenberg, from the Cubs.

Tulsky sounds a decent choice, but other than that, I'm not so sure about these selections. I'd assume it's between Tulsky and Davidson, at least right now.


Some random Fansided article I found on Tulsky. Not sure of the credibility of the writer, just thought I'd sure if anyone's curious: Carolina Hurricanes: The meteoric rise of Eric Tulsky
Interesting. But if this Tulsky is the latest wunderkid, why here? If it's me, I bide my time, avoid the moving hassle and take over the Cane's job. A better run organization and doesn't lead the league in *** trainers.
 

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If the Hawks could really pull off Tulsky, it would be the biggest coup since signing Hossa.

The guy is a draft genius and teams use his draft pick value chart.

He drafts bpa, and it would mean the end of Kelly having any influence come draft day if they actually keep the guy around.

I don’t think the Canes let him go. I think they get rid of Waddle instead of letting Tulsky leave. He’s 100% analytics, which means the high flying days will be over.

Don’t think it happens. I see Greenberg or Davidson being GM
 

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Interesting. But if this Tulsky is the latest wunderkid, why here? If it's me, I bide my time, avoid the moving hassle and take over the Cane's job. A better run organization and doesn't lead the league in *** Sexually menacing trainers.
Fixed it for you. Being *** and being a sexual predator have nothing to do with each other.

Tulsky should be the one they target--no ifs, ands, or buts.
 

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Actually.....why it the world would anyone with any smarts want to deal with the mess in Chicago?
Agree...it's hard enough to try to sort out a professional sports franchise that's gone awry in terms of just the management of the draft, minor leagues, development, coaches, players, etc. and get things on a winning path. Now throw in one of the uglier scandals of late, spice it with one of the worst PR events in sports history by the owner, and garnish with three more lawsuits pending, and no one worth anything is coming here. I doubt the Hawks will be relevant again in the next 10-15 years minimum.
 

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