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Bears Trade in Latest PFF Mock

AND... with the #10 pick in the 1st round... The Chicago Bears... TRADE...

With the Cleveland Browns, for Myles Garrett. Cleveland also gets the Bears 2026 first round pick as part of the deal...


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Defense carries young QBs. This defense is closer to being an elite unit than the offense.

That worked so well for all the other bears QB's in our history

You know what actually helps young QB's? A dominant OL, good weapons, and a coach with a brane. Bears seem to have two but bears fans dont care about the first one and think you can just fix it easily.
 

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That worked so well for all the other bears QB's in our history

You know what actually helps young QB's? A dominant OL, good weapons, and a coach with a brane. Bears seem to have two but bears fans dont care about the first one and think you can just fix it easily.

Are we really using history of Bears QBs like some kind of Magic 8ball?

Losing one pick from this draft isnt going to make or break the Oline. They can easily draft all Oline with every other pick if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
 

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Are we really using history of Bears QBs like some kind of Magic 8ball?

Losing one pick from this draft isnt going to make or break the Oline. They can easily draft all Oline with every other pick if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.

1) its going to take a lot more than #10

2) That pick should be used to build the future of this bears roster. Caleb and this bears team is not ready to compete at the highest level, so what, you have a 32-33 year old myles garrett on the back end of his career when we are? Stupid. He's already about to be in year 9
 

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1) its going to take a lot more than #10

2) That pick should be used to build the future of this bears roster. Caleb and this bears team is not ready to compete at the highest level, so what, you have a 32-33 year old myles garrett on the back end of his career when we are? Stupid. He's already about to be in year 9
1. Reading is FUNdamental. PFF suggested #10 + next years first.

2. Myles Garrett is a known hall of fame caliber commodity. Draft picks are boom or bust projections.

I personally think two 1's is a lot, but its probably what it will take.
 

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There is no pick that will be universally loved by Bears fans.

If we take the top DL at 10 half the fan base will be upset and if we take the top OL I think a good portion will think we're overdrafting whoever that ends up being.

Gonna be a blast.
 

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Defense carries young QBs. This defense is closer to being an elite unit than the offense.
So rather than building up the offense in order to find out whether or not Caleb is worth $50-million per season you want to invest in a pass rusher who you hope will carry the team.

This statement is so Bears.

Basically what you're saying without saying it is you don't have faith in Caleb Williams so you're hoping the defense be molded into a top-5 unit with one trade to carry the Bears to the playoffs.
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COE has become the rallying call around here. It means Caleb over everything.
 

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1. Reading is FUNdamental. PFF suggested #10 + next years first.

2. Myles Garrett is a known hall of fame caliber commodity. Draft picks are boom or bust projections.

I personally think two 1's is a lot, but its probably what it will take.

Myles garrett is also about to be 30 and in his 9th season

Thats a dumb move to make when your QB is still an unknown commodity. Caleb was the worst QB in the nfl over 10 yards last year. We should be focused on figuring out how to make him good, not how to make the defense good.
 

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So rather than building up the offense in order to find out whether or not Caleb is worth $50-million per season you want to invest in a pass rusher who you hope will carry the team.

This statement is so Bears.

Basically what you're saying without saying it is you don't have faith in Caleb Williams so you're hoping the defense be molded into a top-5 unit with one trade to carry the Bears to the playoffs.
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COE has become the rallying call around here. It means Caleb over everything.

I actually agree with you

This is a trade you make in a year or two when you know caleb is in that joe burrow, mahomes, allen, lamar category and you need a player to take you over the hump(Like the lions could use right now).

Hell, if caleb comes out lighting the NFL on fire trade for a guy at midseason. You dont need a DPOTY to have a good defense, not one player on the eagles is DPOTY caliber and they fielded the best defense in the NFL.
 

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So rather than building up the offense in order to find out whether or not Caleb is worth $50-million per season you want to invest in a pass rusher who you hope will carry the team.

This statement is so Bears.

Basically what you're saying without saying it is you don't have faith in Caleb Williams so you're hoping the defense be molded into a top-5 unit with one trade to carry the Bears to the playoffs.
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COE has become the rallying call around here. It means Caleb over everything.
Lol. Trading the #10 pick does not prevent the Bears from finding out if Caleb is worth $50M 4 years from now.

Myles Garrett + Montez Sweat in the hands of Dennis Allen will be devastating. If you want to take pressure off your young QB how about a defense that keeps the other team from scoring over 21 points a game.

The offense has weapons, but yes they will still need to add more help to the offensive line but they have plenty of draft capital and cap space to do it.
 

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Its not the worse thing the Bears could do, but I personally wouldnt do this for that cost. NO knock on Garrett or his fantastic career, but how much time does he left playing at his current level, and when does the Caleb Williams led offense start playing at a competitive level? We dont know the answer to either of those questions, but given what we've seen from both the '24 Bears O and previous stud DEs level of play into their 30s, its a likely possibility that either the timelines dont match between these 2 or that the overlap would be a very small window. This seems like the type of move the team should make after a 10 win season where the O proves it worth, I think it would be a huge gamble to make it now. Garret would be a huge upgrade at DE but the teams biggest issue isn't their pass rush, even though that is an issue.
 

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I’d rather go after Mack or Josh Sweat. They’re cheaper and we don’t have to give up draft picks. They won’t be the best player on the team, but they will fill a hole.
 

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Garret would be a huge upgrade at DE but the teams biggest issue isn't their pass rush, even though that is an issue.
I beg to differ because Garrett is the super charged version of Montez Sweat. He plays the run as well as the pass. He actually makes Sweat better because he will always be the one getting double teamed.

Teams won't easily run around either edge. Our DBs wont have to worry about QBs holding the ball for 5 seconds and finding wide open targets.

If Ben Johnson cant figure out how to get average production from Caleb/DJ/Rome/Kmet/Swift... then he isnt the brilliant offensive guru he has been labled as.
 

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If Ben Johnson cant figure out how to get average production from Caleb/DJ/Rome/Kmet/Swift... then he isnt the brilliant offensive guru he has been labled as.
That's a real possibility, or it may take him more than 1 season to get the O to be competitive. Trading 2 1st round picks for a HoF DE that turns 30 during the upcoming season puts an artificial timer on BJ turning the O around basically now, which I think is an expectation based on hype if we dont even have a single snap in '25 to see how close they are. No doubt Garrett upgrades the D as I mention multiple times in my post, but I've heard "theres no way the next coach cant fix the O, the biggest issue was Nagy/Getsy/Waldron/etc." and yet here we are. Just my opinion, but I think its a different conversation for a younger stud pass rusher (like Parsons) or if we're talking about a midseason trade for Garrett after watching a few games and the O is as good as advertised.
 

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If it were anyone but Ryan Poles picking I might feel differently but I'd take the known commodity in Garrett.

Great chance Poles drafts another loser at that spot imo
 

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If it were anyone but Ryan Poles picking I might feel differently but I'd take the known commodity in Garrett.

Great chance Poles drafts another loser at that spot imo

Poles has drafted a good player in every pick in the first 2 rounds.

Thats not true for the majority of other NFL gms
 

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Lol. Trading the #10 pick does not prevent the Bears from finding out if Caleb is worth $50M 4 years from now.

Myles Garrett + Montez Sweat in the hands of Dennis Allen will be devastating. If you want to take pressure off your young QB how about a defense that keeps the other team from scoring over 21 points a game.

The offense has weapons, but yes they will still need to add more help to the offensive line but they have plenty of draft capital and cap space to do it.
I mean adding 2 of Trey Smith, Drew Dalman, Ronnie Staley and then using the 2nd rd picks to draft either Wyatt Milum, Donovan Jackson, Jonah Savaiinaea would be a massive revamp of the OL. you can still do all of this while making a huge trade to add someone like Myles Garrett, Maxx Crosby, or even Micah Parsons
 

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