PFF Mock - Post Superbowl

[Xplosive]

That's a real possibility, or it may take him more than 1 season to get the O to be competitive. Trading 2 1st round picks for a HoF DE that turns 30 during the upcoming season puts an artificial timer on BJ turning the O around basically now, which I think is an expectation based on hype if we dont even have a single snap in '25 to see how close they are. No doubt Garrett upgrades the D as I mention multiple times in my post, but I've heard "theres no way the next coach cant fix the O, the biggest issue was Nagy/Getsy/Waldron/etc." and yet here we are. Just my opinion, but I think its a different conversation for a younger stud pass rusher (like Parsons) or if we're talking about a midseason trade for Garrett after watching a few games and the O is as good as advertised.

This team as constructed already has a timer on it. In four years its best players will be in their 30s or close to it. Garrett isnt falling off a cliff unless he gets injured and that could happen to Parsons just as easily.

This should not be some slow steady rebuild where we play wait and see if the QB can play before we make a splash move imo.

I have complete confidence that Caleb will be at minimum a competent QB, that DJ and Rome will be good if not great receivers, and that Kmet and Swift can be at least average skill players.

Everything else depends on coaching, and the general manager being able to not be completely inept at finding offensive line help.

I like the odds and if they cant, we're screwed even if they don't trade for Garrett.

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Lol. Trading the #10 pick does not prevent the Bears from finding out if Caleb is worth $50M 4 years from now.

Myles Garrett + Montez Sweat in the hands of Dennis Allen will be devastating. If you want to take pressure off your young QB how about a defense that keeps the other team from scoring over 21 points a game.

The offense has weapons, but yes they will still need to add more help to the offensive line but they have plenty of draft capital and cap space to do it.

You don't seem to understand. Justin Fields only had 3 years, Caleb is on the same timetable. There's two more years to get this done.

If hits 3500 and 20 over the next two years and the Bears struggle to make the playoffs they're not extending him. The urgency is now.

 

[msadows]

I mean adding 2 of Trey Smith, Drew Dalman, Ronnie Staley and then using the 2nd rd picks to draft either Wyatt Milum, Donovan Jackson, Jonah Savaiinaea would be a massive revamp of the OL. you can still do all of this while making a huge trade to add someone like Myles Garrett, Maxx Crosby, or even Micah Parsons

Yea, adding multiples of the best players in FA happens a ton for most NFL teams, especially the bears.

LMFAO

 

[msadows]

You don't seem to understand. Justin Fields only had 3 years, Caleb is on the same timetable. There's two more years to get this done.

If hits 3500 and 20 over the next two years and the Bears struggle to make the playoffs they're not extending him. The urgency is now.

I'd say he is even on a shorter leash, because he was given much more to work with.

If caleb doesnt look drastically improved this year(particularly downfield) then we will have issues

But hey, at least we'll have a 31 year old Myles Garrett !!!

This is a move you make when you know your QB is very good, like the commanders and jayden daniels. Caleb put up a bunch of empty stats, we all watched the games and its clear he had massive holes in his game which we dont know if he can fix.

He was literally the worst QB in the nfl over 10 yards, but we're talking about improving the defense again? Chicago fans never learn

 

[msadows]

This team as constructed already has a timer on it. In four years its best players will be in their 30s or close to it. Garrett isnt falling off a cliff unless he gets injured and that could happen to Parsons just as easily.

This should not be some slow steady rebuild where we play wait and see if the QB can play before we make a splash move imo.

I have complete confidence that Caleb will be at minimum a competent QB, that DJ and Rome will be good if not great receivers, and that Kmet and Swift can be at least average skill players.

Everything else depends on coaching, and the general manager being able to not be completely inept at finding offensive line help.

I like the odds and if they cant, we're screwed even if they don't trade for Garrett.

If caleb is actually good you have a 15 year window

If he sucks you traded for an aging DPOTY and get to be the NFC version of the browns

 

[Xplosive]

I'd say he is even on a shorter leash, because he was given much more to work with.

If caleb doesnt look drastically improved this year(particularly downfield) then we will have issues

But hey, at least we'll have a 31 year old Myles Garrett !!!

This is a move you make when you know your QB is very good, like the commanders and jayden daniels. Caleb put up a bunch of empty stats, we all watched the games and its clear he had massive holes in his game which we dont know if he can fix.

He was literally the worst QB in the nfl over 10 yards, but we're talking about improving the defense again? Chicago fans never learn

Please step away from the coke bowl sir. Caleb had a pretty good rookie year. He took too many sacks OK we get it. Yes he needs to improve his deep ball accuracy, its not the end of the world.

Despite what your hallucinations are telling you this team is not in shambles. It wont require magic or prayers to heaven to get this offense to function.

 

[msadows]

Please step away from the coke bowl sir. Caleb had a pretty good rookie year. He took too many sacks OK we get it. Yes he needs to improve his deep ball accuracy, its not the end of the world.

Despite what your hallucinations are telling you this team is not in shambles. It wont require magic or prayers to heaven to get this offense to function.

He was literally the worst QB in the nfl past 10 yards, its not even "deep ball accuracy"

If you consider that good, you need to get your eyes checked

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Defense carries young QBs. This defense is closer to being an elite unit than the offense.

Sorry man, it isn't working that way anymore. At the very least, for the foreseeable future, the number 1 question that needs to be answered is, "How does this help Caleb?"

Trading away draft capital, when you're (frankly) not even close to a playoff berth, does not help Caleb.

 

[Xplosive]

He was literally the worst QB in the nfl past 10 yards, its not even "deep ball accuracy"

If you consider that good, you need to get your eyes checked

Do you huff stats for a living? I dont give a **** about what some random stat claiming he is the worst QB blah blah blah.

I simply WATCHED the games and can see that he struggled in some correctable areas. He also has tools that cant be taught. He is intelligent and wants to win. He isnt careless with the football. He will be OK at minimal and a star if he can put it all together.

 

[msadows]

Do you huff stats for a living? I dont give a **** about what some random stat claiming he is the worst QB blah blah blah.

I simply WATCHED the games and can see that he struggled in some correctable areas. He also has tools that cant be taught. He is intelligent and wants to win. He isnt careless with the football. He will be OK at minimal and a star if he can put it all together.

Yea, and if you watched him you'd see a guy who couldnt hit shit past 10 yards

How about we figure out if the QB is good before trading a haul for a 30 year old guy?

OK at minimal is not a QB you give up a ton of picks for an aging DE for, OK doesnt win a superbowl on a rookie contract

 

[Xplosive]

Sorry man, it isn't working that way anymore. At the very least, for the foreseeable future, the number 1 question that needs to be answered is, "How does this help Caleb?"

Trading away draft capital, when you're (frankly) not even close to a playoff berth, does not help Caleb.

It doesnt work that way anymore based on what? Are you thinking its coincidence that superbowl champs just so happen to be top 3 in defense?

 

[msadows]

It doesnt work that way anymore based on what? Are you thinking its coincidence that superbowl champs just so happen to be top 3 in defense?

How many DPOTY candidates did the eagles have?

Their defense is elite from a thing called the draft

 

[Xplosive]

OK at minimal is not a QB you give up a ton of picks for an aging DE for, OK doesnt win a superbowl on a rookie contract

OK so you are only a history buff when it fits your narrative. If I tell you Russell Wilson, Ben Rapelisburger, Eli Mediocre, and Tom Brady were all carried to superbowl wins by their defense when they were young QBs...

That history doesnt exist???

 

[Xplosive]

How many DPOTY candidates did the eagles have?

Their defense is elite from a thing called the draft

Zack Baun dpoty finalist #5 in voting

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

It doesnt work that way anymore based on what? Are you thinking its coincidence that superbowl champs just so happen to be top 3 in defense?

And the year before that it was all about the QB and play-caller. And the year before that it was all about the QB and play-caller. The year before that it was about the defense, but weirdly, the year before that it was the QB and play-caller. Etc, etc, etc...

I don't think things should be solely based on what the winning super bowl team did. That said, if you do want to base it off of what the Eagles have done, it's weird that you would want to trade away draft picks, as that team is one of the best at drafting and developing players.

 

[SugarWalls]

Remember all last year when you said the bears were definitely going for the HAUL ????

Also I read a great new article about bears fans basically being involuntarily celibate, check it out imo

 

[Xplosive]

And the year before that it was all about the QB and play-caller. And the year before that it was all about the QB and play-caller. The year before that it was about the defense, but weirdly, the year before that it was the QB and play-caller. Etc, etc, etc...

I don't think things should be solely based on what the winning super bowl team did. That said, if you do want to base it off of what the Eagles have done, it's weird that you would want to trade away draft picks, as that team is one of the best at drafting and developing players.

Im not basing anything just off of the Eagles. The 49ers were led by defense and a playcaller, the Rams are defense and a play caller, Broncos got there with defense, the eagles got there both times with defense. The Ravens won with defense. Buccaneers...

Having elite defense can take you all the way, especially with a young QB who is still learning.

 

[msadows]

And the year before that it was all about the QB and play-caller. And the year before that it was all about the QB and play-caller. The year before that it was about the defense, but weirdly, the year before that it was the QB and play-caller. Etc, etc, etc...

I don't think things should be solely based on what the winning super bowl team did. That said, if you do want to base it off of what the Eagles have done, it's weird that you would want to trade away draft picks, as that team is one of the best at drafting and developing players.

The eagles legit are good because they got a haul from a trade. His post makes no sense

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Despite what your hallucinations are telling you this team is not in shambles. It wont require magic or prayers to heaven to get this offense to function.

Why do you believe they can fix the offensive line in one year?

 

[msadows]

Why do you believe they can fix the offensive line in one year?

Easy, they will just get the 3 top OL on the market(Trey Smith, Dalman, Stanley) and pay them a combined 50 million

Nevermind the fact the bears have ever rarely gotten the top player in FA at one position, much less 3