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I agree with Kelly Dwyer that having John Salmons as your PF isn't ideal. But that's not really a pro Tyrus argument to me. Basically we needed a PF, Tyrus is on the bench but his coach doesn't trust him enough to put him out there. That to me reflects pretty badly on Tyrus.
 

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anorexorcist wrote:
I'll say just one thing, had Tyrus been in at the end of the game 5 instead of Miller, the Bulls would ahve won this series.

Agh, i came here to get away from all the Tyrus bashing, and I come here and it's the same thing.

Sure, we should trade him for Bosh, but I still wouldn't trade him for Amare and quite frankly, Vinny didn't put him in during the game when he should have. Kelly Dwyer from yahoo sports really breaks down why we lost this game and the series, Tyrus wasn't on the court enough:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...ton-moves-on?urn=nba,160765#remaining-content

Not with Tyrus Thomas on the bench, pulling in more rebounds (five) than his replacement "power forward" (John Salmons) did in 42 minutes. I don't care if Thomas makes mistakes. I don't care if he takes possessions off. I don't care if the Bulls should have drafted Brandon Roy or LaMarcus Aldridge. Thomas' flighty, typical play is still better than an injured shooting guard having to play power forward in a Game 7 on the road.
The stats for Thomas are modest, though pretty solid per-minute. Four points, five rebounds, two blocks, two steals, two assists, one turnover in about 17 minutes. That's not the point. The point is that you need a power forward out there to cover the rim. To rebound. To play his role. You don't ask Salmons or Rose or Gordon or Hinrich to try that out. Not in any playoff game, much less this one.

This is a perfect article that every Bulls fan should read. Vinny Dell Bickerstaff was the difference. Truthfully I would keep the core and just add someone like a Reggie Evans or a muscle guy. Other than that, sign Gordon and wait till the trade deadline next year. Everyone needs to shut up about Tyrus they just don't know ball. Vinny couldve atleast tried a big lineup, c'mon. Great Article everyone read it!!!!
 

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Hendu0520 wrote:
anorexorcist wrote:
I'll say just one thing, had Tyrus been in at the end of the game 5 instead of Miller, the Bulls would ahve won this series.

Agh, i came here to get away from all the Tyrus bashing, and I come here and it's the same thing.

Sure, we should trade him for Bosh, but I still wouldn't trade him for Amare and quite frankly, Vinny didn't put him in during the game when he should have. Kelly Dwyer from yahoo sports really breaks down why we lost this game and the series, Tyrus wasn't on the court enough:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...ton-moves-on?urn=nba,160765#remaining-content

Not with Tyrus Thomas on the bench, pulling in more rebounds (five) than his replacement "power forward" (John Salmons) did in 42 minutes. I don't care if Thomas makes mistakes. I don't care if he takes possessions off. I don't care if the Bulls should have drafted Brandon Roy or LaMarcus Aldridge. Thomas' flighty, typical play is still better than an injured shooting guard having to play power forward in a Game 7 on the road.
The stats for Thomas are modest, though pretty solid per-minute. Four points, five rebounds, two blocks, two steals, two assists, one turnover in about 17 minutes. That's not the point. The point is that you need a power forward out there to cover the rim. To rebound. To play his role. You don't ask Salmons or Rose or Gordon or Hinrich to try that out. Not in any playoff game, much less this one.

This is a perfect article that every Bulls fan should read. Vinny Dell Bickerstaff was the difference. Truthfully I would keep the core and just add someone like a Reggie Evans or a muscle guy. Other than that, sign Gordon and wait till the trade deadline next year. Everyone needs to shut up about Tyrus they just don't know ball. Vinny couldve atleast tried a big lineup, c'mon. Great Article everyone read it!!!!

The reason Vinny went small was because Tyrus wasn't bringing anything. Vinny was putting the best players out there that's all Vinny was doing. Tyrus has a lot to learn and people need to understand that it's not just blocking shots and dunking the ball

Tyrus made a lot of strides this off season and played 28 minutes in the postseason which is a good amount of minutes but he has to continue to work on the jumper but also work on his rebounding and decision making.

Tyrus has all the tools but he doesn't do the little things well that if he starts doing them he'll be better

For example Noah knows his role and he's said it he can have two points but impact a game. His defends, rebounds blocks shots and bring energy every play. Makes the smart plays

Tyrus is still learning which is fine but he's has to improve.
 

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I think people are overreacting. Tyrus still has a ways to go but he has gotten significantly better since last season. I can't believe people really want Big Baby. He won't even be in the league in four years and if he is he will be rotting on the bench. Guys with his body type don't last longer than 5 years in the league typically.
 

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J-Mart wrote:
I think people are overreacting. Tyrus still has a ways to go but he has gotten significantly better since last season. I can't believe people really want Big Baby. He won't even be in the league in four years and if he is he will be rotting on the bench. Guys with his body type don't last longer than 5 years in the league typically.

Tyrus has made a lot of strides and I hope he will continue to make them. I wouldn't mind Davis to have a Tyrus/Davis pairing but I wouldn't get rid of Tyrus for him
 

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Ralphb07 wrote:
Hendu0520 wrote:
anorexorcist wrote:
I'll say just one thing, had Tyrus been in at the end of the game 5 instead of Miller, the Bulls would ahve won this series.

Agh, i came here to get away from all the Tyrus bashing, and I come here and it's the same thing.

Sure, we should trade him for Bosh, but I still wouldn't trade him for Amare and quite frankly, Vinny didn't put him in during the game when he should have. Kelly Dwyer from yahoo sports really breaks down why we lost this game and the series, Tyrus wasn't on the court enough:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...ton-moves-on?urn=nba,160765#remaining-content

Not with Tyrus Thomas on the bench, pulling in more rebounds (five) than his replacement "power forward" (John Salmons) did in 42 minutes. I don't care if Thomas makes mistakes. I don't care if he takes possessions off. I don't care if the Bulls should have drafted Brandon Roy or LaMarcus Aldridge. Thomas' flighty, typical play is still better than an injured shooting guard having to play power forward in a Game 7 on the road.
The stats for Thomas are modest, though pretty solid per-minute. Four points, five rebounds, two blocks, two steals, two assists, one turnover in about 17 minutes. That's not the point. The point is that you need a power forward out there to cover the rim. To rebound. To play his role. You don't ask Salmons or Rose or Gordon or Hinrich to try that out. Not in any playoff game, much less this one.

This is a perfect article that every Bulls fan should read. Vinny Dell Bickerstaff was the difference. Truthfully I would keep the core and just add someone like a Reggie Evans or a muscle guy. Other than that, sign Gordon and wait till the trade deadline next year. Everyone needs to shut up about Tyrus they just don't know ball. Vinny couldve atleast tried a big lineup, c'mon. Great Article everyone read it!!!!

The reason Vinny went small was because Tyrus wasn't bringing anything. Vinny was putting the best players out there that's all Vinny was doing. Tyrus has a lot to learn and people need to understand that it's not just blocking shots and dunking the ball

Tyrus made a lot of strides this off season and played 28 minutes in the postseason which is a good amount of minutes but he has to continue to work on the jumper but also work on his rebounding and decision making.

Tyrus has all the tools but he doesn't do the little things well that if he starts doing them he'll be better

For example Noah knows his role and he's said it he can have two points but impact a game. His defends, rebounds blocks shots and bring energy every play. Makes the smart plays

Tyrus is still learning which is fine but he's has to improve.

Ok Ralph good points but were you watching this last series or anytime we played this year. You can't stick with a 4 guard lineup 3 pg's for the ENTIRE GAME ALMOST, way too much. How many minutes were Miller, Noah, and Thomas on the floor at the same time. Even you would have tried it.
 

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Hendu0520 wrote:
Ralphb07 wrote:
Hendu0520 wrote:
anorexorcist wrote:
I'll say just one thing, had Tyrus been in at the end of the game 5 instead of Miller, the Bulls would ahve won this series.

Agh, i came here to get away from all the Tyrus bashing, and I come here and it's the same thing.

Sure, we should trade him for Bosh, but I still wouldn't trade him for Amare and quite frankly, Vinny didn't put him in during the game when he should have. Kelly Dwyer from yahoo sports really breaks down why we lost this game and the series, Tyrus wasn't on the court enough:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...ton-moves-on?urn=nba,160765#remaining-content

Not with Tyrus Thomas on the bench, pulling in more rebounds (five) than his replacement "power forward" (John Salmons) did in 42 minutes. I don't care if Thomas makes mistakes. I don't care if he takes possessions off. I don't care if the Bulls should have drafted Brandon Roy or LaMarcus Aldridge. Thomas' flighty, typical play is still better than an injured shooting guard having to play power forward in a Game 7 on the road.
The stats for Thomas are modest, though pretty solid per-minute. Four points, five rebounds, two blocks, two steals, two assists, one turnover in about 17 minutes. That's not the point. The point is that you need a power forward out there to cover the rim. To rebound. To play his role. You don't ask Salmons or Rose or Gordon or Hinrich to try that out. Not in any playoff game, much less this one.

This is a perfect article that every Bulls fan should read. Vinny Dell Bickerstaff was the difference. Truthfully I would keep the core and just add someone like a Reggie Evans or a muscle guy. Other than that, sign Gordon and wait till the trade deadline next year. Everyone needs to shut up about Tyrus they just don't know ball. Vinny couldve atleast tried a big lineup, c'mon. Great Article everyone read it!!!!

The reason Vinny went small was because Tyrus wasn't bringing anything. Vinny was putting the best players out there that's all Vinny was doing. Tyrus has a lot to learn and people need to understand that it's not just blocking shots and dunking the ball

Tyrus made a lot of strides this off season and played 28 minutes in the postseason which is a good amount of minutes but he has to continue to work on the jumper but also work on his rebounding and decision making.

Tyrus has all the tools but he doesn't do the little things well that if he starts doing them he'll be better

For example Noah knows his role and he's said it he can have two points but impact a game. His defends, rebounds blocks shots and bring energy every play. Makes the smart plays

Tyrus is still learning which is fine but he's has to improve.

Ok Ralph good points but were you watching this last series or anytime we played this year. You can't stick with a 4 guard lineup 3 pg's for the ENTIRE GAME ALMOST, way too much. How many minutes were Miller, Noah, and Thomas on the floor at the same time. Even you would have tried it.

I've watched every single game this whole season all 89 of them. You go with the cards your dealt with. Don't think Vinny woke up every morning and said well I wanna play small everyday. Look no further then his comments about us needed interior help which he said today.

Kirk plays Pierce well for some reason and we needed to use Salmons out side shooting and since Tyrus gets killed on the boards he's better off letting Salmons get killed on them but providing the spacing we need on offense
 

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Did you read this article you are just wrong, and Pierce just shot nice an comfortably over Kirk a lot. It is a 48 min game, switch the lineup. I've never seen a team go smaller when they are getting killed on the boards. Vinny didn't play all of his cards, he didn't try.
 

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