QB success matters more to success than turnover ratio

[DanielCCSBears]

Just would like to point out that Ben Johnson is on the same wavelength as I've been preaching and said so in his press conference:

"It's clear that modern football in the NFL is quarterback driven. You can look at analytics, quarterback success is a higher predictor of winning and losing than turnover ratio and it's been that way for 20 years"

Indeed this goes exactly with what I said the Bears focusing so much on the turnover battle has been detrimental to the team winning.

The unhealthy obsession with forcing turnovers to win games

Your Chicago Bears are 4th in the NFL in turnover differential at a plus 10. This of course is supposed to equate to more wins. This is primarily why Matt Eberflus was hired was for the Bears to renew their Lovie Smith era ability take the football away, to the detriment of EVERYTHING else...

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[PrideisBears]

Just would like to point out that Ben Johnson is on the same wavelength as I've been preaching and said so in his press conference:

"It's clear that modern football in the NFL is quarterback driven. You can look at analytics, quarterback success is a higher predictor of winning and losing than turnover ratio and it's been that way for 20 years"

Indeed this goes exactly with what I said the Bears focusing so much on the turnover battle has been detrimental to the team winning.

Sure

 

[HeHateMe]

Just would like to point out that Ben Johnson is on the same wavelength as I've been preaching and said so in his press conference:

"It's clear that modern football in the NFL is quarterback driven. You can look at analytics, quarterback success is a higher predictor of winning and losing than turnover ratio and it's been that way for 20 years"

Indeed this goes exactly with what I said the Bears focusing so much on the turnover battle has been detrimental to the team winning.

The unhealthy obsession with forcing turnovers to win games

Your Chicago Bears are 4th in the NFL in turnover differential at a plus 10. This of course is supposed to equate to more wins. This is primarily why Matt Eberflus was hired was for the Bears to renew their Lovie Smith era ability take the football away, to the detriment of EVERYTHING else...

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I think that's great

 

[Forty-six]

I agree with this. Everything in the modern NFL is about the QB. If you have a top 12 guy you can win. If you don't you have no shot to win a championship. Why are the Commanders in the NFC Championship game after being awful for multiple years in a row? Because Jayden Daniels has been a rock star. He's the difference.

Yes, the turnover battle is important but it's more important to have a higher end QB.

 

[Anytime23]

One of the funniest CCS storylines in recent CCS history is the brane sergon OP who thinks he's the only one who knows the NFL is QB driven.

 

[BBBF]

One of the funniest CCS storylines in recent CCS history is the brane sergon OP who thinks he's the only one who knows the NFL is QB driven.

Can't wait for him to take credit for the next great QB getting into the H.O.F.

 

[HeHateMe]

One of the funniest CCS storylines in recent CCS history is the brane sergon OP who thinks he's the only one who knows the NFL is QB driven.

I didn't know this until Jake tweeted it out tbf

 

[greg23]

So when a qb isn't successful; throwing picks and fumbling; the team struggles?

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

Trent fricken Dilfer won a SB with his team leading the league in turnovers. Every year top top QBs lose in the playoffs. You need solid coaching and smart play. There are many ways to get the job done.

 

[SugarWalls]

If the eagles somehow win the Super Bowl does that mean Jalen hurts is a HOF qb since you’re the genius with the logic that being a HOFer means you win the Super Bowl, and not accepting that Super Bowl wins builds resume for HOF career?

 

[bamainatlanta]

This thread is like DiGiorno Pizza, it delivers!!!

 

[DanielCCSBears]

Trent fricken Dilfer won a SB with his team leading the league in turnovers. Every year top top QBs lose in the playoffs. You need solid coaching and smart play. There are many ways to get the job done.

So Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are...............Jayden Daniels is..............Jared Goff who consistently folds in the playoffs as a game manager.

Trent Dilfer beating Kerry Collins was. 80 percent of Super Bowl titles have been won by QBs in Hall of Fame.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

You obsession about this is unhealthy. Teams that don't turn the ball over and take the ball away tend to be successful. Are they always successful? Of course not. To tie it into QB success, I think its hard for a QB to be successful and not be safe with the football. Jordan Love had success the first half of the year, but when GBs defense stopped creating turnovers themselves to offset Love, the Packers became just an average team. It's much easier for a QB to be safe with the football and also not be successful.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

This thread is like DiGiorno Pizza, it delivers!!!

NO ONE OUTPIZZAS THE HUT!

 

[greg23]

NO ONE OUTPIZZAS THE HUT!

Speaking of Detroit

Pizza Pizza

 

[DanielCCSBears]

You obsession about this is unhealthy. Teams that don't turn the ball over and take the ball away tend to be successful. Are they always successful? Of course not. To tie it into QB success, I think its hard for a QB to be successful and not be safe with the football. Jordan Love had success the first half of the year, but when GBs defense stopped creating turnovers themselves to offset Love, the Packers became just an average team. It's much easier for a QB to be safe with the football and also not be successful.

All I did was quote the new head coach who used a fact.

 

[IBleedBearsBlood]

I agree with this. Everything in the modern NFL is about the QB. If you have a top 12 guy you can win. If you don't you have no shot to win a championship. Why are the Commanders in the NFC Championship game after being awful for multiple years in a row? Because Jayden Daniels has been a rock star. He's the difference.

Yes, the turnover battle is important but it's more important to have a higher end QB.

I agree. But QB and line protection is the key. You don’t have to be #1, but you have to win at the trenches more than lose. Not just the QB is enough. But a big part, yes. Helps when your QB is mobile too and can extend plays or take off.

 

[alswank87]

Isn’t turning the ball over a factor in qb success? Yeah, I guess I would rather have a qb with 40 tds and 10 ints than a qb with 10 tds and 0 ints.

 

[bamainatlanta]

NO ONE OUTPIZZAS THE HUT!

Let’s make this a more interesting thread and talk about pizza instead.

 

[Noonthirtyjoe]

So Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen are...............Jayden Daniels is..............Jared Goff who consistently folds in the playoffs as a game manager.

Trent Dilfer beating Kerry Collins was. 80 percent of Super Bowl titles have been won by QBs in Hall of Fame.

HOF QBs on top teams. No HOF QBs on bad teams ever won shit.