QB Update: Will Levis declares for the draft and OFFICAIL TCU/K State IGT thread.

[nc0gnet0]

I follow TCU football and have for years. They’ve been down recently but when Dalton and Boykin went through the program they won a lot of games and beat the “big boys” almost every chance they had.

They did lose the Fiesta Bowl to an excellent Boise St. team in Dalton’s junior year. Dalton had beaten Boise St. the previous year in a lesser bowl. The next year, they went undefeated and beat JJ Watts’ Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl.

They were hosed in 2014 by the playoff committee and absolutely trucked Mississippi in their bowl game 42-3. All the SEC meatballs were saying the same shit then that I’m reading now. That team was built to beat anyone and dropped out of the third playoff spot after hanging 50 on Iowa St. the final weekend of the regular season.

They mixed in a bowl win against Oregon too.

They are not a perennial power, but they’re really focusing on the capturing the best players in the DFW area and that could pay dividends. Plus, they have one of the richest alumni groups in the country so NIL deals will be zero issue for TCU. They can offer premium numbers for recruits they target.

Duggan is a fucking warrior. That guy has so much grit and determination. He’s not a great QB but he’s a big, tough dude that puts it on the line to win regardless of the physical cost to him.

TCU is in and they’ll most likely stay at 3.

The only team in the playoffs that they stand no chance against is Georgia. They can play with anyone else.

I tend to disagree and think Michigan will anniliate them. TWT.

 

[knoxville7]

South Carolina with Big 12 reject Spencer Rattler says hello Mr. Knoxville.

Yeah, those Oklahoma QB’s that transfer elsewhere are sooooo poor, right??

 

[didshereallysaythat]

The real question - is there any team that can beat Georgia?

 

[nc0gnet0]

I am really curious to see how JJ McCarthy develops next year, I think he might be a QB to watch.

 

[knoxville7]

If they want to take the most talented teams, it will be Georgia, Michigan, Ohio St and Alabama. That also would produce the best ratings.

That said, TCU played a statistically harder schedule than Alabama and had one less loss. And their loss was in an extra game that Alabama was not good enough to play in their conference. So I could easily see TCU getting in over Alabama.

Last year, they intentionally avoided a rematch by making Alabama 1 and Georgia 3. They had Alabama leap 3 spots including Michigan who won to get to that top ranking. I wonder if they will avoid it this year by making Ohio St 4 and keeping Michigan at 2. They could easily just say that Ohio State did not play and does not deserve to go up 2 spots and ahead of TCU. But if it is Alabama that is chosen over TCU, then it has to be Ohio State 3 and Alabama 4 since they both did not play and Ohio State was already ahead of them.

Alabama is clearly better than TCU. But they have no one to blame but themselves if they don't get in because they lost 2 games and barely won 3 others against average teams. That is the part that people miss. If you are going to be impressed by Alabama's close losses, then you have to be unimpressed by their close wins. You can not have it both ways.

I agree with all of this except for the tougher schedule part. Bama played a tougher schedule IMO than TCU did

 

[nc0gnet0]

The real question - is there any team that can beat Georgia?

I am sure they would much rather play TCU then OSU.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

I agree with all of this except for the tougher schedule part. Bama played a tougher schedule IMO than TCU did

I think it is close. TCU played 5 teams that were ranked at the time of the game. It just so happens that Oklahoma, Ok St and Kansas ended up sucking hardcore after their games with TCU. But they did have momentum going into the TCU game. I do think that counts for something.

Alabama could say the same thing with Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas. Those teams were good on paper at the time of the game but faded. Especially A&M. And Auburn never was that good this year.

 

[bamainatlanta]

I think it is close. TCU played 5 teams that were ranked at the time of the game. It just so happens that Oklahoma, Ok St and Kansas ended up sucking hardcore after their games with TCU. But they did have momentum going into the TCU game. I do think that counts for something.

Alabama could say the same thing with Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas. Those teams were good on paper at the time of the game but faded. Especially A&M. And Auburn never was that good this year.

Auburn and Florida being dumpster fires is a big reason why the SEC won’t get 2teams in to the playoffs. Auburn is usually a decent team that you can’t overlook

 

[knoxville7]

Auburn and Florida being dumpster fires is a big reason why the SEC won’t get 2teams in to the playoffs. Auburn is usually a decent team that you can’t overlook

Auburn and floridas descents were replaced by the ascent of Tennessee and for a while Ole Miss(they started out 7-0)

They SEC is just as strong as ever IMO

You have Georgia being the dominant team bama used to be with a lot of really good teams in there

It’s still the best conference by a good bit.

 

[knoxville7]

I think it is close. TCU played 5 teams that were ranked at the time of the game. It just so happens that Oklahoma, Ok St and Kansas ended up sucking hardcore after their games with TCU. But they did have momentum going into the TCU game. I do think that counts for something.

Alabama could say the same thing with Texas A&M, LSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas. Those teams were good on paper at the time of the game but faded. Especially A&M. And Auburn never was that good this year.

Nobody thinks the Big 12 is anywhere close to on par with the SEC

So while I agree that TCU is a good team and deserves to be in the college playoff, nobody thinks they can actually win it. Whereas, people believe OSU or bama could win it if they get in

Kinda tells you all you need to know

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Nobody thinks the Big 12 is anywhere close to on par with the SEC

So while I agree that TCU is a good team and deserves to be in the college playoff, nobody thinks they can actually win it. Whereas, people believe OSU or bama could win it if they get in

Kinda tells you all you need to know

Sure, but they deserve the opportunity to prove them wrong based on the year they have had. I think we are in agreement there.

 

[DaaBears]

Nobody thinks the Big 12 is anywhere close to on par with the SEC

So while I agree that TCU is a good team and deserves to be in the college playoff, nobody thinks they can actually win it. Whereas, people believe OSU or bama could win it if they get in

Kinda tells you all you need to know

Well if you think that is true, and you love to gamble, you are gonna be given 2 "gifts". Not only can you bet against TCU in the playoffs, you can bet against Kansas State against Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

Well if you think that is true, and you love to gamble, you are gonna be given 2 "gifts". Not only can you bet against TCU in the playoffs, you can bet against Kansas State against Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

I think Kansas State will beat Alabama in that game. Alabama probably will not be extra motivated to play in anything other than the playoffs.

 

[knoxville7]

Well if you think that is true, and you love to gamble, you are gonna be given 2 "gifts". Not only can you bet against TCU in the playoffs, you can bet against Kansas State against Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

This was actually going to be my next point…

If you had to bet your house on bama or TCU if they played, who are you actually risking it on?

 

[knoxville7]

Sure, but they deserve the opportunity to prove them wrong based on the year they have had. I think we are in agreement there.

Absolutely. I have no issue with TCU getting in the playoff. They have EARNED it. But nobody actually thinks they are better than Alabama

Also, no way in hell TCU goes 12-1 in the SEC

 

[DaaBears]

I think Kansas State will beat Alabama in that game. Alabama probably will not be extra motivated to play in anything other than the playoffs.

I'm sure Alabama will be totally motivated for the Sugar Bowl. I like Kansas State as they just beat TCU with their backup QB, lost Knowles early and were missing 2 safeties and a corner. Martinez will be returning for the Sugar Bowl so look for Howard/Martinez two headed monster passing/running it at QB.

 

[bearsfan1977]

If Bama’s starters play, they will destroy K St.

TCU has had a commendable season. But they are a 3 loss team ( at a minimum) if they had to play in the SEC. But they have earned a spot in the playoffs. They will also get destroyed.

 

[dennehy]

TCU doesn't belong in the playoff, but really no one does other than Georgia and UM this year. As I mentioned in September this is just a bad year for CFB in terms of great teams.

Still, I would have put BAMA easily ahead of TCU in picking the four best teams, but that isn't how it works.

 

[playthrough2001]

Yeah, those Oklahoma QB’s that transfer elsewhere are sooooo poor, right??

Rattler was and then TN…

 

[knoxville7]

Rattler was and then TN…