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DE - Hmm trade away two all pro edges and now you have a need, good play.

Immediate needs as per the fozzybear OL/DL
 

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I like the rankings, but I think WR is a bigger need, because we need a true #1 WR. That's going to require either a huge investment in free agency(which I don't think exists for 2023), a trade where we send future assets to a team, or a high draft pick.

We should be drafting a WR in round 1 or 2 imo.

I know the oline and the front 7 needs a lot of help. I think it behooves the Bears to focus more on offense going forward considering the QB that we have. Make the offense insane for defenses to deal with(not just Justin Fields, which is where we're basically at now). And elevate the defense to average.

I think at least for the tenure of Justin Fields, if we have a decision to use resources on offense or defense, we should be focusing on offense.
 

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I like the rankings, but I think WR is a bigger need, because we need a true #1 WR. That's going to require either a huge investment in free agency(which I don't think exists for 2023), a trade where we send future assets to a team, or a high draft pick.

We should be drafting a WR in round 1 or 2 imo.

I know the oline and the front 7 needs a lot of help. I think it behooves the Bears to focus more on offense going forward considering the QB that we have. Make the offense insane for defenses to deal with(not just Justin Fields, which is where we're basically at now). And elevate the defense to average.

I think at least for the tenure of Justin Fields, if we have a decision to use resources on offense or defense, we should be focusing on offense.

Completely agree with a lot of this. The WR market this year in FA is bad, and any upgrades would take a round 1 or 2 investment. I think this is a big reason why Poles made the trade for Claypool.

However, the DE and DT is bad. The bears could use a 3T, DT, and a #1 edge rusher. There is a decent market for DT, but the DE market is barren. If the bears want to actually upgrade the DL it is going to take a FA and at least 1 of the top 2 picks. Depending on how high the bears 1st round pick is BPA will be far and away DL. Not to mention the secondary continues to be a mess despite spending both 2nd round picks on it this last year.

Secondly, no point in investing that highly in the WR position if the OL can't block for pass plays. Use this year to improve the OL, try to get velus jones involved in some way ... then in 2024 can look to draft WR in round 1 with a 15-32 ranked first round pick.
 

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I like the rankings, but I think WR is a bigger need, because we need a true #1 WR. That's going to require either a huge investment in free agency(which I don't think exists for 2023), a trade where we send future assets to a team, or a high draft pick.

We should be drafting a WR in round 1 or 2 imo.

I know the oline and the front 7 needs a lot of help. I think it behooves the Bears to focus more on offense going forward considering the QB that we have. Make the offense insane for defenses to deal with(not just Justin Fields, which is where we're basically at now). And elevate the defense to average.

I think at least for the tenure of Justin Fields, if we have a decision to use resources on offense or defense, we should be focusing on offense.

So come on down Myles Murphy?

IDK what they are gonna do at DE. Clowney is on a down year and may go for a really reasonable amount, but hes also nearing 30. Is Poles gonna go older stop gap?

Im sure some of the following fodder will come up and be looked at.

Zach Allen, Rasheem Green, Smoot, Omenihu,

As far as DT, Da'ron Payne is my #1 priority FA if he hits the market. Id be throwing all the bags at him. Good ol George can meet him at the airport too.. Id probably debate adding Hargrave at 3T too, even if he is older.. Jones/Hargrave rotating at 3T. Payne can rotate over there too. Definitely getting the Fat A Donald from Nevada late to sit behind Jones/Hargrave
 
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Completely agree with a lot of this. The WR market this year in FA is bad, and any upgrades would take a round 1 or 2 investment. I think this is a big reason why Poles made the trade for Claypool.

However, the DE and DT is bad. The bears could use a 3T, DT, and a #1 edge rusher. There is a decent market for DT, but the DE market is barren. If the bears want to actually upgrade the DL it is going to take a FA and at least 1 of the top 2 picks. Depending on how high the bears 1st round pick is BPA will be far and away DL. Not to mention the secondary continues to be a mess despite spending both 2nd round picks on it this last year.

Secondly, no point in investing that highly in the WR position if the OL can't block for pass plays. Use this year to improve the OL, try to get velus jones involved in some way ... then in 2024 can look to draft WR in round 1 with a 15-32 ranked first round pick.
Defensive line is a huge problem. I would actually have no issue with 3T/Edge with our 1st round pick. But our 2nd should probably be a WR.

It's also going to depend on what we can do in free agency. I'm hoping a LOT of help for the DL/OL is going to come out of free agency.

We probably have more needs than resources, so some talent acquisition is going to have to be in 2024. In my opinion, get the offense now, fix as much of the DL as you can, and focus more on defense in 2024.

I just think with what we've seen with Fields and the offense, going in that direction will make us a better team overall.
 

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Tier 1:

DT
Center
DE

These positions need significant investment. I expect them to be high draft picks or biggest FA signings. No way the bears can go into next year without addressing these positions.

Tier 2:

RT
WR

Bears need difference makers at these positions. They need a WR that can make plays with the ball in his hands, or someone that can consistently separate. Mooney ain’t it. I like his route running but I’ve seen many short passes or WR screens and he hasn’t been able to break any tackles or get yards. He’s a good WR but not a dynamic playmaker. They need a WR that the defense will have to be aware of and scheme for.

I rank RT in this tier but I see the bears playing themselves out of the running for the top 2 DL in the draft. If they do I hope they draft a top LT and try Jones at RT or he’s a high level swing tackle, sign a RT like Conklin.

Tier 3:

Cb
LB
LT

The bears should spend some money on a mid level LB, and I fully expect 1 to be signed on FA. That being said I think figuring out the secondary is slightly more important. Is Gordon going to be full time nickel, or can he play outside? Vildor has been serviceable but I expect a mid to late round pick, or FA at CB.

I put LT here but like I said I actually hope they address in round 1, or in FA and give Jones a shot at RT.

RB
OG

I think the bears should keep whitehair at least next year. He’s been one of the best OL on this team, and there are holes all over the place. No reason to make another hole that needs to be fixed. If they can spend on a center, I think whitehair - FA/2nd round - Jenkins is a solid interior. Depending on how the draft falls the OL could be Skoronsky- whitehair - FA - Jenkins - jones.

RB depends on what they do with Montgomery. Wouldn’t mind a 5th round addition depending on what they do with the other positions.

Tier 1-
OL
(C/OT/G ( 2 upper level FA at 2 of 3 positions)
I think they should sign top FA OT and center available and then draft OG.

( DT/ DE) Sign Noticeable FA somewhere on Dline and then draft Dline in top part of draft

(Linebacker) sign Noticeable FA at linebacker position and then draft linebacker in top part of draft

WR sign noticeable FA Wr

Tier 2-
NT
OG
DE
WLB
SLB
TE
 

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I like your approach, but for me, I place CB in the Tier 2 and RT in Tier 3, because I like you hope that they find a LT that is good enough to allow them a chance to place Jones on the right

It’s really hard to judge this secondary because the front 7 is made up of a bunch of rotational players
 

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Tier 1-
OL
(C/OT/G ( 2 upper level FA at 2 of 3 positions)
I think they should sign top FA OT and center available and then draft OG.

( DT/ DE) Sign Noticeable FA somewhere on Dline and then draft Dline in top part of draft

(Linebacker) sign Noticeable FA at linebacker position and then draft linebacker in top part of draft

WR sign noticeable FA Wr

Tier 2-
NT
OG
DE
WLB
SLB
TE
So I'm presuming you mean they draft Dline round 1, then OG round 2?

The issue with this premise is who is available. Definitely possible to sigh a RT and a C....

The issue is the Bears arguably need a 3Tech, DT, and a DE. Imo just signing 1 is not enough unless you are going to draft in the top 2 rounds.

Other issue is there are no notable WR FA's in the upcoming class.
 

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1A - Left Tackle
1B - 3 tech

These are self explanatory. Braxton Jones is hot garbage when he has to pass block. Don’t @ me with ‘but he can run block.’ Justin Jones I’d like to keep because he can penetrate at times but to run Flus’ defensive scheme, the 3 tech needs to dominate the B gap. He does not do that.

3 - DE. Want to see Gipson or Robinson turn something around by the end of the year and stop running into blocks before they’re taken out of the play.

4 - Center. Self explanatory. Get Sam Mustipher off my television.

5 - CB2. Wasn’t wow’d by Vildor, but he has made a couple solid plays. With lots of cash to play around with, you should be able to buy someone better than Kindle and let Gordon not look like a lost puppy playing Nickel where he was doing well enough.

6 - RT. This one can be flexed up or down depending on what happens. Riley Reiff is solid at RT, so I’m okay with bringing him back, but if he’s gone—it’ll be a need higher than 6.

7 - WR 3. Keep esb for wr4/5 and blocking specialist, but out of Pringle, Pettis, Harry, and everyone else after Mooney/Claypool could be replaced. They’re unremarkable.

8 - Mike/Will. Nick Morrow sucks and looks a lot worse without Quan. I don’t know what Sanborn will be playing full time next year, so if he keeps it up, whichever LB spot he’s not is the need.

9 - RB. This one could be no problem at all or moved higher depending on what the bears do with
So I'm presuming you mean they draft Dline round 1, then OG round 2?

The issue with this premise is who is available. Definitely possible to sigh a RT and a C....

The issue is the Bears arguably need a 3Tech, DT, and a DE. Imo just signing 1 is not enough unless you are going to draft in the top 2 rounds.

Other issue is there are no notable WR FA's in the upcoming class.
So I'm presuming you mean they draft Dline round 1, then OG round 2?

The issue with this premise is who is available. Definitely possible to sigh a RT and a C....

The issue is the Bears arguably need a 3Tech, DT, and a DE. Imo just signing 1 is not enough unless you are going to draft in the top 2 rounds.

Other issue is there are no notable WR FA's in the upcoming class.
There are so many holes on this team.

So sign OT and center in FA.
Sign noticeable FA on Dline and at linebacker,
how realistic is that is cap wise.

Draft
1st dline or linebacker
2nd linebacker or dline
3rd OG
4th NT

The front 7 is garbage
 

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As far as I can tell, he didn't bring in any high quality free agents either before or during the season.
team had salary cap issues. it would be counterproductive, during a planned rebuild season, to cut a bunch of good players and spend a bunch of money on players that won't be around when the rest of the team catches up. (as they will need to get paid big money again) I personally think Poles is just doing good business. also what @Spitta Andretti said. if there was anyone else good right now, they're locked up with the teams they were already with.

expectations of the Bears winning a lot of games this season or any big splash moves on a wasted year... all foolish.
 

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T: Browns: Conklin(I don't want to see Borom, let him be backup swing)

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Tier 1:

DT
Center
DE

These positions need significant investment. I expect them to be high draft picks or biggest FA signings. No way the bears can go into next year without addressing these positions.

Tier 2:

RT
WR

Bears need difference makers at these positions. They need a WR that can make plays with the ball in his hands, or someone that can consistently separate. Mooney ain’t it. I like his route running but I’ve seen many short passes or WR screens and he hasn’t been able to break any tackles or get yards. He’s a good WR but not a dynamic playmaker. They need a WR that the defense will have to be aware of and scheme for.

I rank RT in this tier but I see the bears playing themselves out of the running for the top 2 DL in the draft. If they do I hope they draft a top LT and try Jones at RT or he’s a high level swing tackle, sign a RT like Conklin.

Tier 3:

Cb
LB
LT

The bears should spend some money on a mid level LB, and I fully expect 1 to be signed on FA. That being said I think figuring out the secondary is slightly more important. Is Gordon going to be full time nickel, or can he play outside? Vildor has been serviceable but I expect a mid to late round pick, or FA at CB.

I put LT here but like I said I actually hope they address in round 1, or in FA and give Jones a shot at RT.

RB
OG

I think the bears should keep whitehair at least next year. He’s been one of the best OL on this team, and there are holes all over the place. No reason to make another hole that needs to be fixed. If they can spend on a center, I think whitehair - FA/2nd round - Jenkins is a solid interior. Depending on how the draft falls the OL could be Skoronsky- whitehair - FA - Jenkins - jones.

RB depends on what they do with Montgomery. Wouldn’t mind a 5th round addition depending on what they do with the other positions.
I agree with just about everything, but ...

Skoronsky is not a scheme fit. He is too unathletic to play the outside zone. He is glacier slow.

Check out this video at 4:26 (if it does not automatically go there for you). It shows the side view and then the back view. Who is he even trying to block and what were the chances of him getting to anyone and blocking them?

 

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As far as DT, Da'ron Payne is my #1 priority FA if he hits the market. Id be throwing all the bags at him. Good ol George can meet him at the airport too..
Come on Fozzy! Why don't you go pick up Payne at the airport. After all, you are just a fan, like George.

Payne would probably enjoy the music you listen to than the Tony Bennett playing in George's car.
 

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