Report: Lakers’ Pau Gasol wants to play for Chicago Bulls

[houheffna]

yep you got some rather cufflink contracts upfront and then a large hole at SF

having boozer and gasol on the same team,all things considered, is a bit problematic

The hole at SF is not as big as the whole in the Bulls offense. Eventually, amnesty would be the answer, but for a season, this season most likely, they would most likely experiment as opposed to paying Boozer for 3 seasons to just leave.

 

[thechosenone]

As for the second paragraph, so you're not a Bulls fan now? :shrug: And the team would be better than the Lakers of the past 2 seasons. Why? Because we would have great low-post D w/ 2 7-footers, a bonafide #2 scorer to take pressure off Rose, & better cap flexibility for the future. And weren't you the one telling everyone that we would go all the way this year? I fail to see how losing a borderline all-star who can't create his own shot, & a solid role player OFF THE BENCH, would suddenly make the team incredibly worse when they are getting a PROVEN ALL-STAR & 2-TIME NBA CHAMPION in return. :smh:

And please don't attempt to give me a lesson on the Bulls. I've watched this team for over 27 years. I've seen MANY bad Bulls teams during that time. I'm well aware of how good this team is but I'm also well aware of the other good teams in the league that are better prepared for sustained championship runs. Unfortunately we are not one of those teams & this off season needs to be about correcting that.

No I am not that huge Bulls fan. I can live without the Bulls. I am not from there. I have told it so many times it is really annoying. The Bulls are the team I like to watch more the last two years and the team I liked the most back in the 90s. And yes I was the one telling that this Bulls team is the best team this year in the league. This team had a superstar PG, a pretty solid bench PG, an all star SF, a solid bench SF, a veteran SG a great pure shooter as the bench SG, a shitty PF who can score 20 points in any game , a solid PF as the bench PF, an all star level C and a great defensive C as a bench player. Let's count them again. 10 players. No holes. Do you want to count the second best team? The Spurs? You will understand that they are this kind of team too. No holes in every position.

You want to dig 3 holes in the team for a "proven" back in the days 2 times champion? Fine. Do it. You will be the 2012 Lakers fans next year. Go ask them about Gasol. And compare their feelings to the Chicago's fans feelings for Boozer. Just to remind you the Lakers are not a contender because they have KOBE(better than Rose)+BYNUM(Better than Noah)+GASOL(Better than Boozer) and some HUGE HOLES in their team.

Mine opinion again? Boozer+Brewer(+a second round pick) for Gasol and nothing more.

And sorry if you understood I tried to give you a lesson on the Bulls. That was not my intention. I feel the same about correcting the team but I want an ornithological correction. Not something that will create a worse team.

 

[JosMin]

Mine opinion again? Boozer+Brewer(+a second round pick) for Gasol and nothing more.

Salaries don't match.

 

[nwfisch]

Salaries don't match.

NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

:slap:

 

[JosMin]

NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

:slap:

I was mixing up Deng's salary with Boozer's :smh:

 

[BNB]

I was mixing up Deng's salary with Boozer's :smh:

that would work too though.

NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Wow. Well all I can really add to this is that there is one specific poster in this thread that when he gives his next intelligent basketball thought, it will be his first intelligent basketball thought.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

The hole at SF is not as big as the whole in the Bulls offense. Eventually, amnesty would be the answer, but for a season, this season most likely, they would most likely experiment as opposed to paying Boozer for 3 seasons to just leave.

i dont think getting gasol and getting rid of deng is a good move unless you get rid of boozer and get a solid SF..

in that case its a very good move; its all about what you do around the principal deal

i'm assuming that Rip would be put there in the scenario..but

A. he's old, not very quick,and not nearly the defender deng is on the perimeter

B. he would not log the same minutes at SF, so you need guys like korver and butler to really step up and be more active(this is not even taking into consideration that one or both of those guys could be included in the deal...because i doubt the lakers would do deng for pau straight up)...deng is much more concrete at that position

C. Rip is more naturally a SG, and he doesnt have the height nor length that deng has..and in quite a few cases...rip would be at a height disadvantage

pau gasol helps your offense in the post...but you lose significant offense with deng and superb defense with deng on the wing if that is not attended to in some other way than just plugging in rip

and if you plug in rip, what about the SG position? alot of issues to be considered here

you lose a chunk of 3 point shooting with deng gone too..about 20% of the total(this goes way up if guys like korver are considered up for trading)..and 3 pointing is an essential ingredient for offense...especially for spacing..which opens the inside for rose to drive and the big men to go to work easier

not to mention boozer is still going to get plenty of minutes..they're not gonna give pau 35 and go "fuck you boozer"..i mean the dude can still put up well over double figures

 

[thechosenone]

People forget that we are a very good team already. We mostly need more 3 point shooters and they want to get rid of some of the good ones we have for a player who will be a 34 years old 20M contract when Rose will be 100% healthy.

 

[houheffna]

i dont think getting gasol and getting rid of deng is a good move unless you get rid of boozer and get a solid SF..

in that case its a very good move; its all about what you do around the principal deal

i'm assuming that Rip would be put there in the scenario..but

A. he's old, not very quick,and not nearly the defender deng is on the perimeter

B. he would not log the same minutes at SF, so you need guys like korver and butler to really step up and be more active(this is not even taking into consideration that one or both of those guys could be included in the deal...because i doubt the lakers would do deng for pau straight up)...deng is much more concrete at that position

C. Rip is more naturally a SG, and he doesnt have the height nor length that deng has..and in quite a few cases...rip would be at a height disadvantage

pau gasol helps your offense in the post...but you lose significant offense with deng and superb defense with deng on the wing if that is not attended to in some other way than just plugging in rip

and if you plug in rip, what about the SG position? alot of issues to be considered here

you lose a chunk of 3 point shooting with deng gone too..about 20% of the total(this goes way up if guys like korver are considered up for trading)..and 3 pointing is an essential ingredient for offense...especially for spacing..which opens the inside for rose to drive and the big men to go to work easier

not to mention boozer is still going to get plenty of minutes..they're not gonna give pau 35 and go "fuck you boozer"..i mean the dude can still put up well over double figures

Some serious thought would have to go into filling the perimeter positions accordingly...but the greater need is someone who can create his own offense. The defense is anchored by the frontcourt and that would continue to be the case, especially with Deng not there.

But Deng is replaceable...just as they will have to replace him to start next season and probably for the first couple of months. I think the greater need is a second guy that can create over Deng.

 

[houheffna]

People forget that we are a very good team already. We mostly need more 3 point shooters and they want to get rid of some of the good ones we have for a player who will be a 34 years old 20M contract when Rose will be 100% healthy.

A 6'3" pg and a bunch of shooters won't win you a title. It has never happened before...

 

[scottiepippen1994]

A 6'3" pg and a bunch of shooters won't win you a title. It has never happened before...

And probably never will.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Some serious thought would have to go into filling the perimeter positions accordingly...but the greater need is someone who can create his own offense. The defense is anchored by the frontcourt and that would continue to be the case, especially with Deng not there.

But Deng is replaceable...just as they will have to replace him to start next season and probably for the first couple of months. I think the greater need is a second guy that can create over Deng.

look..im not saying that trading pau for deng is a bad idea...honestly..if you can somehow get rid of boozer and get a good 3 point shooting/solid defending SF to plug in...i think its a very good trade

but straight up..there are alot of issues

 

[Glide2keva]

Well Pau is a superstar with magical powers, so that's all that really matters.

 

[JosMin]

Well Pau is a superstar with magical powers, so that's all that really matters.

It's not about that, dude. None of us are saying that trading Pau for anyone = championship. We're saying that Pau gives us an element that this team lacks (low-post scoring). He'd also be the only player on our team, outside of Rip Hamilton, with championship experience. That's invaluable. Everyone keeps saying, "We need a floor spacer, a shooter, etc.) Well, Rip Hamilton is that guy -- Funny.... we don't cater our offense to fit his skills. Kind of self-defeating if you ask me.

Most of us have said that it'd be a much easier pill to swallow if we were able to ship out Boozer in a deal for any incoming "star," but if we had to give up Deng and the end result made us a better team on paper, then we certainly have to look at it. Again, you have to ask yourself -- which is easier to find, a low-post scorer or a wing defender? Granted, Deng is an elite defensive player, but his offensive game has still not taken that next step for the Bulls to consider him their second scoring option night in and night out.

I'd be hard pressed to believe that Pau couldn't be that guy, since he's been in the NBA for 12 years and has career averages of 19/8/3 with shooting clips of 52%/75%. He's also a deft passer and by all accounts, a good teammate. I don't look at this year him causing problems. Kobe just needed somebody to point the finger at because that team was poorly constructed and Mike Brown is the wrong coach for that team.

At the end of the day, it's the same thing as it is every year -- is there a deal out there that can make the Bulls better? If so, the FO needs to look at it.

 

[Sunbiz1]

Report: Lakers’ Pau Gasol wants to play for Chicago Bulls | SI Tracking Blog

We needed him with Gordon and Hinrich, now he isn't really even a fit for the team.

Thanks Pax, you're an idiot.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

No, he's the Paxanator.

If I was GM, I would trade the whole fucking team Rose not included.

 

[houheffna]

It's not about that, dude.

Of course its not, but that is what passes as an actual basketball thought around here...sad.

 

[Sunbiz1]

No, he's the Paxanator.

If I was GM, I would trade the whole fucking team Rose not included.

If I were the GM responsible for this mess, I would do everyone a favor and resign...with the full knowledge I sucked at my job.

 

[scottiepippen1994]

Paxson has been too passive and has done most his player shopping at Sanford and Sons with an occasional player purchase at the slavation army.
Fred made a killing off of Boozer.:shrug:

I expect to see Pargo and Hinrich back