Rogue One

[AussieBear]

I get it, you grew up with 4-5-6 and have a sentimental attachment. As movies those are incredibly bad, poorly written and acted. You bearmick, Crystallas, and Houston can't separate the deep feels and be objective, those movies are corny and childish. I loved them for the groundbreaking visuals but they are so cringeworthy it's painful, if you guys were a little older when you watched them for the first time you would be able to accept that fact.

Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith was by far the best movie of the first 6, it isn't even close. You guys will never accept that, and it's sweet that you have such strong loyalty to and feelings for your first love. That shit makes men stupid.

3 was okay. 1,2 and 3 get a bad rap imo. There just wasnt any major surprises, like im your father,sister moments etc.. We all already basically knew the story before watching it.. vader is coming.... Im sure ppls expectations and the stories ppl created in their mind beforehand didnt help either... sure jar jar was annoying... but the ewoks were nearly as bad... teddy bears can take down the empire... they can.. bobas weak death in 6 rubs me the wrong way too...

i dont have an order... but i enjoy 3,4,5 and 7 the most... even with the uninformed cliff hangers of 7

 

[SilenceS]

3 is the only watchable one of the first 3. On that note, Rogue One is is fucking amazing! Only Empire Strikes Back can match up with it.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

3 is the only watchable one of the first 3. On that note, Rogue One is is fucking amazing! Only Empire Strikes Back can match up with it.

Yeah, I've heard this from several people now. I loved the movie but maybe not quite THAT much. But great movie nonetheless. I think people who were turned off by the first three need to give this one a chance and go see it.

 

[Wintermute]

And of course, you guys watch the clone wars animation, I presume.

Genndy Tartakovsky's work was the only animation worthy of the Star Wars moniker.

 

[Crystallas]

I never said 3 was a bad movie. Heck, I even suggested that it's too soon(before release) to judge Rogue One. Just n51 gaslighting again.


My whole point is that Star Wars as a franchise is watered down, Disney preys on the fans, and the same fans don't bother to act rationally when new products are released. Don't throw money at shit movies and toot your horn by acting like the biggest fan, they'll keep making shit and before you know it, Star Wars will be like TMNT or 90% of DC and Marvel movies.
I don't get into the whole Star Wars vs Star Trek fanboy debate(I think there is plenty of room to love both), but the Trekkies treat new releases of shows and movies rationally and will hold the studios feet to the fire(not in some perfect manner, so hold off the hyperbole) better than any of the big franchises on the market. Seeing how much overlap there is between the two fanbases, I just hold out more hope that Star Wars hardcore fans will adopt better consumer practices, and less cultism.

 

[Wintermute]

Vader alone was worth my $8.

 

[SilenceS]

I never said 3 was a bad movie. Heck, I even suggested that it's too soon(before release) to judge Rogue One. Just n51 gaslighting again.


My whole point is that Star Wars as a franchise is watered down, Disney preys on the fans, and the same fans don't bother to act rationally when new products are released. Don't throw money at shit movies and toot your horn by acting like the biggest fan, they'll keep making shit and before you know it, Star Wars will be like TMNT or 90% of DC and Marvel movies.
I don't get into the whole Star Wars vs Star Trek fanboy debate(I think there is plenty of room to love both), but the Trekkies treat new releases of shows and movies rationally and will hold the studios feet to the fire(not in some perfect manner, so hold off the hyperbole) better than any of the big franchises on the market. Seeing how much overlap there is between the two fanbases, I just hold out more hope that Star Wars hardcore fans will adopt better consumer practices, and less cultism.

I dont know if you saw Rogue One yet. But, Disney did a great job on reviving the essence of Star Wars. I heard Star Wars 8 is supposed to be stellar as well. The director of 7 said he wished he would have signed on for 8 because he said the script is amazing. We will see if true, but they are also coming out with a young Hans Solo movie and a Boba Fett movie which will probably be huge. Movies 1 through 3 did a shitty job with Boba Fett when he is probably the most popular character of the franchise that isnt a main character.

 

[SilenceS]

Vader alone was worth my $8.

I marked out at the end. The whole scene. lol

 

[Crystallas]

I dont know if you saw Rogue One yet. But, Disney did a great job on reviving the essence of Star Wars. I heard Star Wars 8 is supposed to be stellar as well. The director of 7 said he wished he would have signed on for 8 because he said the script is amazing. We will see if true, but they are also coming out with a young Hans Solo movie and a Boba Fett movie which will probably be huge. Movies 1 through 3 did a shitty job with Boba Fett when he is probably the most popular character of the franchise that isnt a main character.

I did not see RO. Been burned too many times and will see it in my home theater when the UHD version is released. Like I said, I didn't pass judgment on RO yet, I was talking to the general Star Wars manufactured hype that seems to turn average movies into something the dogmatic fans must make into a mountain of greatness without even being great to begin with(aka: making multi-billion dollar movies out of films that would make under a hundy if they were forced to stand-alone without the franchise name/tie ins).

We'll see, nevertheless. TFA was hyped as a great script and said to have been "done right". I just didn't feel that magic, and was SUPER open minded about it being a great revival. Hopefully it doesn't take 108 years for someone to return the franchise to greatness, and more importantly, for fans wearing rose-colored glasses to see what is being done to their favorite franchise.

 

[number51]

I never said 3 was a bad movie. Heck, I even suggested that it's too soon(before release) to judge Rogue One. Just n51 gaslighting again.

I specifically said I wasn't judging Rogue One. Read before you respond, you will look less dim.

If you are an adult you should watch episode 3, it is by far the best movie of the series, not including Rogue One because I haven't seen it yet.

 

[remydat]

I find I like the idea of Star Wars more than I actually like the movies. The Star Wars universe is filled with a lot of good ideas poorly executed in the vast majority of the films IMO.

In many cases I prefer watching the comics or cartoons because I feel those mediums are better suited for the at times corny and simplistic content. That or I'll simply just read up on the internet about some of the characters I like.

 

[Crystallas]

I find I like the idea of Star Wars more than I actually like the movies.

This IMO is a fair and rational admittance which I take no issues with.

 

[ZOMBIE@CTESPN]

Saw it this morning and the movie was really good. Could have used more Vader even though it had nothing to do with him. But nonetheless it was a good movie, worth the time and money spent, and it wasn't the overly political crap people are boycotting for.

I hope they do more of these side movies to put more detail to the main movies

And I agree episode 1 was so bad I didn't see 2 and 3 in theatres and actually didn't watch them until my nephews got into Star Wars.

 

[Houston]

One of the problems is that the industry has caught up to Star Wars. The series is no longer doing things people haven't seen on screen before.

 

[number51]

Just n51 gaslighting again.

I've heard that phrase before, I never really knew what it meant so I looked it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

"Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of psychological abuse in which a victim is manipulated into doubting their own memory, perception, and sanity."

Is that what I did to you? I am so sorry, they're just movies, calm down man, you're going to be okay.

 

[Wintermute]

3 is the only watchable one of the first 3. On that note, Rogue One is is fucking amazing! Only Empire Strikes Back can match up with it.

Agree 100% Would have almost said ROTJ was 2nd place if it wasn't for those nauseating Ewoks and their song.

III was the best of the worst, that being 1 and 2. The actors couldn't have looked more bored and wooden. Can you blame them? Clunky dialogue, dull story, unlikable characters, vapid character development....the list goes on and on. Vader's fall could not possibly have been handled in a more listless and unconvincing manner. Ooooo, scary bad dreams Annie! Ooooo getting derped by the Sith Annie! Meesa gonna be your bestest friend Annie! Ooops! Meesa seesa Padme panties Annie? Where's the sacrifice? Where's the hardship? Where's the moral ambiguity of the Jedi lending to his turn? And where are ANY convincing reasons grounded in even a shred of reality for him to buy all this absurdity and START KILLING CHILDREN? Hayden Christensen's delivery was less speaking and more like chewing on lines and spitting them out of the mouth of a confused pseudo-emo. Liam Neeson and Sam Jackson looked like they weren't even trying. At least Ewan Mcgregor and Ian McDiarmid gave an some effort. And Padme dying of *ahem* a broken heart? Really George? Really? Did you just give a blank script to your kids and say,"feel free to use this instead of toilet paper for many months children. I'll fill in the blanks with repugnant droid/clone trooper one-liners, flaccid CGI aliens, and Natalie Portman's shrill simpering. What's that? OF COURSE we can work in that Annie built C-3PO as a child! Cute droids are always more important than irrational continuity! And don't worry, I'll write Padme's mid-riff into the script, because it's really important to keep the attention of the tweener audience too," as he walks away, jolly as Santa Claus.

I would rather listen to Sir Alec Guinness read from a phone book for 72 hours than be subject to these coat hanger abortions George tried off pass off on weak-minded fools as "prequels."

Now that Disney hooked everyone with TFA (and yes, this movie is far from perfect), they can take a few risks and be more real. And let me tell you something, this film was the as close to being the realest motherfucker of the Star Wars universe to date. Rogue One was very much in the vein of TESB: Dark and gritty, with loss all around. And above it all they did an exemplary job of setting up Episode IV and make one appreciated it even more. Will be seeing in the theater again.

This movie gets the Jules Winnfield Seal of Approval.

 

[Axl Rose]

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

One of the problems is that the industry has caught up to Star Wars. The series is no longer doing things people haven't seen on screen before.

Uh.... have you seen the numbers for the last two movies? I think most studios would love to have Star Wars "problems."

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

I did not see RO. Been burned too many times and will see it in my home theater when the UHD version is released. Like I said, I didn't pass judgment on RO yet, I was talking to the general Star Wars manufactured hype that seems to turn average movies into something the dogmatic fans must make into a mountain of greatness without even being great to begin with(aka: making multi-billion dollar movies out of films that would make under a hundy if they were forced to stand-alone without the franchise name/tie ins).

We'll see, nevertheless. TFA was hyped as a great script and said to have been "done right". I just didn't feel that magic, and was SUPER open minded about it being a great revival. Hopefully it doesn't take 108 years for someone to return the franchise to greatness, and more importantly, for fans wearing rose-colored glasses to see what is being done to their favorite franchise.

You'll probably never feel that magic again. People fall out of love with things all the time.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Saw it this morning and the movie was really good. Could have used more Vader even though it had nothing to do with him. But nonetheless it was a good movie, worth the time and money spent, and it wasn't the overly political crap people are boycotting for.

I hope they do more of these side movies to put more detail to the main movies

And I agree episode 1 was so bad I didn't see 2 and 3 in theatres and actually didn't watch them until my nephews got into Star Wars.

The Han Solo movie will be huge if done right. Soooo many places they can go with that.